VRS Technology is GREAT. But..............

dkf747 said:
I don't understand. Where were their lawyers? They're suppose to fight for their rights. Well, if it's too late then they can appeal due to lack of interpreter, can't they?

Lawyers have tried for months to find terps. You only need a minimum of a level 3 terp for conferences and case preparations. Level 5 in the courtroom.

There's no level 3's available for the 2 clients and 2 lawyers.

And the appeal will be made on that very basis but the city can counter that the interpreter shortage played a role in their difficulties in securing communication services and that's a valid excuse to throw the ADA out the window.

Richard
 
Nesmuth said:
Sorenson.

Oh... Smile... As you said there is a shortage in this area, I am sure there is no fact in finding the real figures in demand and supply. You said "Shortage like that" because you said so. I suspect that you are somewhat very diffucult person and maybe many terps do not really want to work with you. Forgive me if you feel very offended by this.
 
lovesorenson said:
Oh... Smile... As you said there is a shortage in this area, I am sure there is no fact in finding the real figures in demand and supply. You said "Shortage like that" because you said so. I suspect that you are somewhat very diffucult person and maybe many terps do not really want to work with you. Forgive me if you feel very offended by this.

I'm not offended I'm not the only one pointing the finger at the VRS as the exacerbation of the interpreter shortage.

I have no problem finding terps here in the county I'm at. And the 2 San Diego attorneys had nothing to do with me until last week when they called me. And they couldnt find terps there for months before asking for my help.

Richard
 
interpreters who comes to my town to interpret schools, etc.. they normally have to drive 1 hour.. that's the closest interpreter aviliable.. sad isn't it?

and the suck part is... most interpreters around this town.. i see them almost everytime they interpret for me at doctor appts, VR appts, school, meetings, and so on.. this kinda peeves me off! because that interpreter will know everything about my life and so on. and there's been rumors that those interpreter give my information to others.. which ticks me off big time!
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
interpreters who comes to my town to interpret schools, etc.. they normally have to drive 1 hour.. that's the closest interpreter aviliable.. sad isn't it?

and the suck part is... most interpreters around this town.. i see them almost everytime they interpret for me at doctor appts, VR appts, school, meetings, and so on.. this kinda peeves me off! because that interpreter will know everything about my life and so on. and there's been rumors that those interpreter give my information to others.. which ticks me off big time!


How soon will you move to big city?
 
mld4ds said:
How soon will you move to big city?
never will move to a big city dude ;) i grew up in a huge city.. and moved to a small town.. and love it.. never again live in a big city.. hate their traffic, etc..
 
Nesmuth said:
I'm not offended I'm not the only one pointing the finger at the VRS as the exacerbation of the interpreter shortage.

I have no problem finding terps here in the county I'm at. And the 2 San Diego attorneys had nothing to do with me until last week when they called me. And they couldnt find terps there for months before asking for my help.

Richard

It is sad that there's a shortage, but pointing fingers won't help. Until VRS payroll goes down or community payroll for interpreters goes up, there'll always be a shortage of community interpreters.

If these guys had "months" to find interpreters, they obviously didn't do a good job of it. I have 2 VRS centers in my city and I can still easily get interpreters on 3 days notice. The city is comparable in size to San Diego.
 
Dennis said:
It is sad that there's a shortage, but pointing fingers won't help. Until VRS payroll goes down or community payroll for interpreters goes up, there'll always be a shortage of community interpreters.

If these guys had "months" to find interpreters, they obviously didn't do a good job of it. I have 2 VRS centers in my city and I can still easily get interpreters on 3 days notice. The city is comparable in size to San Diego.

The VRS can always plant a call center here in Orange County as we got a glut of terps as most deaf kids here are being schooled in oral environments.

The San Diego and Santee cops even couldnt find terps when they needed them. I talked to them this morning and thats what theyre telling me. Thats why there's innocent deaf people languishing in prisons or on probation.

Richard
 
Some San Diego schools are lacking interpreters.

I just got a report from a deaf teacher telling me that the school has been unable to locate interpreters for her classes.

The interpreter shortage is serious. DCS pinting the finger at VRS and the only VRS call center there is done by you know who.

I'm not crying wolf!

Richard
 
Nesmuth said:
Some San Diego schools are lacking interpreters.

I just got a report from a deaf teacher telling me that the school has been unable to locate interpreters for her classes.

The interpreter shortage is serious. DCS pinting the finger at VRS and the only VRS call center there is done by you know who.

I'm not crying wolf!

Richard

I am not surprised to learn. It would happen to any school for a lack of interpreters. I assume that they like to work in the VRS instead of driving around. I chatted several interpeters that they prefer to drive or work at any place instead of sitting in VRS so long period.

Yeah, very tragic for the deaf students in public school/college...
 
Nesmuth said:
Some San Diego schools are lacking interpreters.

I just got a report from a deaf teacher telling me that the school has been unable to locate interpreters for her classes.

The interpreter shortage is serious. DCS pinting the finger at VRS and the only VRS call center there is done by you know who.

I'm not crying wolf!

Richard

Schools always pay at the minimum so it is a simple money talk.
 
diehardbiker65 said:
I often use VRS as an remote terp! Many times, I told people to wait for me to call them so we can discuss more depth. So I go back home and call then. This made alot easier for me than to get an terp and pay for fees.

I was thinking along those lines too, Biker. I was wondering if people can use cell phones with cameras as 'terp boxes for local jobs. So you call into the VRS service and you sign into your cell phone camera, and the 'terp on the other end talks through your cell phone speaker to the hearing person standing right in front of you (who may even be holding the phone for you, so you can sign!). It would make doctors' appointments much more private, and eliminate waiting time for legal 'terps. So the money that would usually go to pay for on-site 'terps (state money or fees paid by title III entities under the ADA) would go to the VRS service.

Also, does anyone know if VRS services are using technology to make it possible for 'terps to work from home? That would make the profession much more attractive to lots of people, who don't want to commute.

Finally, as for the "monkeys" comment, I'm not a 'terp (being blind it's not a profession I could take up.) but I am now living and working in a foreign language for me (French), and doing some translating as part of my job. In my past lives I have provided technical help over the phone, as well as legal assistance (I worked as a lawyer before I left the U.S. because of the current administration, but that's another story). Translating is very hard. Any job that has you dealing with different subject matter every few minutes is very hard, and the skill of interpreting is very tough, especially from your native language to another one. So Understanding that 'terps make a lot of mistakes and that are plenty of disreputable ones, or those who think they're god's gift to Deaf, cut them some slack.

be well :cheers:
-AH

Amy Hasbrouck
Oralys, Inc.
1222 rue St-Hubert
Montréal, QC H2L 37Y
514-847-5251 (télé.)
514-847-5292 (fax)
www.oralys.ca
 
Ahh Richard.

Tell them to match what the VRS centers are paying. Maybe even pay a little more. That’s business. I am a coda and just want to point out that I have to make a living for me and my family. I will take the best paying job out there. If cleaning your bathroom would pay me more I would go do it. Fact is many interps left the field because they could make more money doing other things.VRS brought me back into the field.

You can say this is all about the VRS providers but the fact is there was not enough terps before. If the community was paying what the terps were worth they would have never left and there wouldnt be a shortage. Fact is terps have been under paid for sometime.

Since there is such a shortage maybe you and your friends should decline using interps so that those who really need them will get them. Many out there have MLS and in the pecking order at the agencies they tend to be way down on the list since they are unable to advocate for themselves. It would be best if they got the interpreters than you and your friends. Right ?

By the way who pays you to sit here and post all day? I am sure if they knew this is what you did with their money they may not be so happy to give it to you next time.......
 
WELL DONE em20003!

em20003 said:
Ahh Richard.

Tell them to match what the VRS centers are paying. Maybe even pay a little more. That’s business. I am a coda and just want to point out that I have to make a living for me and my family. I will take the best paying job out there. If cleaning your bathroom would pay me more I would go do it. Fact is many interps left the field because they could make more money doing other things.VRS brought me back into the field.

You can say this is all about the VRS providers but the fact is there was not enough terps before. If the community was paying what the terps were worth they would have never left and there wouldnt be a shortage. Fact is terps have been under paid for sometime.

Since there is such a shortage maybe you and your friends should decline using interps so that those who really need them will get them. Many out there have MLS and in the pecking order at the agencies they tend to be way down on the list since they are unable to advocate for themselves. It would be best if they got the interpreters than you and your friends. Right ?

By the way who pays you to sit here and post all day? I am sure if they knew this is what you did with their money they may not be so happy to give it to you next time.......


:gpost:

Yes thats true. All the interpreter here is join but not 100 percent. I could say 50 percent that lead shortage for rest of community. I happen have a interpreter who is lead of ageny yesterday. Person and I chatting about Sorenson issue and shortage interpreter. Person already expect that would happen because matter of living and health insurance that we are focus is insurance that support family and better living too. However; person is fully support whatever Sorenson do. Person said, we should welcome Sorenson into part of Oklahoma community. Without Sorenson be fit in Oklahoma or your state and people here of Oklahoma or your state will not get benefit of educate about deaf communty.

Which is it true! Too much problem with rebell getting interpreter for us due health and death by doctor or hopsital or anything thats matter need solve.

Lead ageny says they are happy have Sorenson but they lost alot good interpreter skills and accept but that will lead another interpreter look up on VRS expectly Sorenson is picky about skills important to Sorenson. Sorenson vision is all about clear the blur communicate to understand better.

:cheers:

Again RICHARD... who pay your electric, who pay your clothes, who pay your food, who pay your water bill. Please don't tell me you got donate from church or you went to donate blood to get money. :ugh2:
 
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