Under the Word of God

[Banjo]

Damn you! Damn you forever! I want to point that out but you did that before I can! Good catch, Banjo!

It had to be done, there's nothing worse than seeing a person not practicing what it preaches.

 

[Vance]

It had to be done, there's nothing worse than seeing a person not practicing what it preaches.

Agreed. There is no question about that part.

 

[The Heretic]

sweet of ya!

The Heretic is the only one in here doesn't copy stuff off the bible and post it in here, He uses his own wordings. That makes him know more.

you're too nice, cheri, but I think I'm not the only one to use my own words.

Most of my knowledge comes from reading a lot of books, from talking to different people who think differently (scholars, believers, catholics, protestants, skeptics, muslims, tech zealots, political ideologues, scientists, philosophers, artists, even the bourgeoise literati) and learning how to take sides I personally don't hold and argue against my own beliefs.

 

[The Heretic]

c'est impossible!

The Heretic - gave the LINK in his posts. Cheri, can't YOU see what the Heretic did? Link ... Link ... Link .... Link!!!

Heh. You cannot give me any credit, eh?

I included links in my post, certainly. But I only used them to back up my use of fallacies, of which you are guilty of in a great number of your posts. Also, to show others the address of different forums to learn more about christianity than your all-too-myopic version.

Being a christian does not prevent you from committing illogic reasoning.

 

[Vance]

Most of my knowledge comes from reading a lot of books, from talking to different people who think differently (scholars, believers, catholics, protestants, skeptics, muslims, tech zealots, political ideologues, scientists, philosophers, artists, even the bourgeoise literati) and learning how to take sides I personally don't hold and argue against my own beliefs.

Indeed. That's the key. Arm ourselves with the facts, knowledges, etc... these people hate the facts & knowledges and other things more than everything else. I bought numbers and numbers of books and I have 'reading crash' moments lately...

"Knowledge is power" - Francis Bacon

 

[The Heretic]

these people hate the facts & knowledges and other things more than everything else.

"these people" ? Who are you referring to?

"Knowledge is power" - Francis Bacon

If power is tantamount to might, then the logical entailment of that statement is "Might is Right."

 

[Vance]

"These people" = Fundamentalist Christians, Americanized conservatives (that term coined by a traditional conservative in one of conservatism articles), Religious Right, etc...

 

[Reba]

"These people" = Fundamentalist Christians, Americanized conservatives (that term coined by a traditional conservative in one of conservatism articles), Religious Right, etc...

Originally Posted by Magatsu:
these people hate the facts & knowledges and other things more than everything else.

There you go, generalizing and stereotyping again.

 

[Nusentinsaino]

You must be smoking the weed or the cracks, anyway.
(it means you don’t understand me)

You already hurt your own credibility.

The computer wasn’t designed for the 666 purpose. It was designed to have better communication, develop new technologies faster, and make many human's job easier with it. Jesus Christ used the computer for you to communicate with me about the gospel and he used me to challenge you and sharp your mind for some kind of challenge in your life. It is not only because of me it is just for the communications.

Does it make sense?
The Pearl Harbor caused the World War 2. No The American involved the War with the European’s war theater.

If the Satan exists, the crimes exist. Not always true. Why? Jesus Christ is the sovereignty and he decides who ever will sins and not to sin. Satan is not responsible for the sin. YOU are the responsible for your own SIN!!!!!! The Satan never caused the crime. We caused the crime because we broke the laws. Your comments with that never made sense to me.

Yes, I know the world leader will use the computer to watch us, yes, I know that and that do not applies to us right now. It is in the future and why should we care about it? Care what it is happening right now, look forward in a short terms, long terms, and spread the gospels.

Let’s me copy from my public speaking book with what is Causal Reasoning,
Stephen E. Lucas “The Art of Public Speaking” 8th Edition. Published by Mc Graw Hill, 2004

Page 443
“Causal Reasoning
Reasoning that seeks to establish the relationship between causes and effects.”

Page 443
"One student in speech class argued that the Cold War that existed between the Western democracies and the communist nations of eastern Europe until the demolishing of the Berlin Wall in 1989 was caused by the United States’ decision to drop the atomic bomb at Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II. His reasoning? Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed in August 1945. The Cold War began a few months later. Therefore, the beginning of the Cold War was caused by the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The student’s classmates were not persuaded. They pointed out that the simple fact that the Cold War started after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki does not prove that it was caused by the bombing; the Cold War would have broken out even if the United States had not dropped atomic bombs on Japan.”

Askjo, you have same logic with that message. You are using the causal reasoning, which it is not 100% true. If you want to prove us and please specific your evidences with the reliable sources and it is must for you because you destroyed your own credibility.

Right now, I am going to judging you a little for now. It is very obviously that you are obsessed about the Revelation chapter. You should not be very obsessed or be obsessed about the Revelation chapter. You should focus on the gospel to the people. Always try to avoid sharing the revelation to the people because it will confuse them and it will make them reject the Christianity because they think you are threatening them. It is best if you explain the Old Testament and New Testament to them first before you can explain the revelation to them. They will understand the revelation chapter after they understood the whole book of the Bible. Revelation is an example of God's Wrath at our sin. How can someone understand God's wrath at our sin without understanding the sin’s system? The true Christian always focuses on the Old Testaments and New Testament before the Revelation chapter. The revelation chapter is full of symbolism and we may be wrong with translating the Revelation to the people. That is why I am suggesting you to throw away the obsessing the Revelation chapter and focus on the gospel.

I admit that I am not ready to read throughly with the Revelation chapter because I am not 100% knowledge with the Old Testament and New Testaments. I am already a 3 years old Christian. Yes I know partly of the Revelation because I read the Left-Behind books. It is good book to read and try not use those book to gospel to the people. Those books is fake story and a pragmatic book.

I can see why Askjo ignored that excellent post - He is just too young and ignorant to read that.

 

[Vance]

Okay, this post is full of rants and it is considering as offtopic. EIther way, ignore this post or alert the mods to delete this post. This post will be my last one in this topic. I promise.

There you go, generalizing and stereotyping again.

Tell that to Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Christian Coalition, Falwellians and Religious Right for me please (example: link and this link) and I will appreciate it greatly if you do that. I learned this cool trick from several people... Just do what they did and it will make these people pull their hairs about it. As one Political Community member called this behavior, "mirrorism".

I usually am not generalizing or stereotyping, I just do what they did (mirrorism). I wonder if do you remember these articles that I posted about Rightwings/Fundamentalists Christians and their terrorism activities in other member's topic? When I posted these facts and you apparently suggested that Rightwings in America are different from these Rightwings in Europe or other countries but actually these articles contain the hard evidences that Rightwings in America did (abortion bombings, Oklahoma bombing, Gay beatings, list go on and on). I never say that Leftwings in America never did (example: Eco-terrorists). Fraud News a.k.a. Foxnews now are trying to spin to save Rightwings' faces by suggesting that Oklahoma bombing is linking to Iraq... Does that says much about Foxnews or Rightwings? If they cannot deal with facts, they spinned (link). If they cannot deal with evidences, they hide it (link). Ohhh, Global warming... that is incredibly good example. There are plenty of evidences and guess what? They rather to listen to chemcial & oil Corporations and prefer to get high on their money. Honestly, I was planning to make a topic, "Theofascism" (Theocracy + Fascism) in this forum which will come with more than 100 references & sources plus 10 different books (yep, I read all of these books) but right after two weeks of thinking & pondering, I decided to not. I finally reached the conclusion... that no matter how many facts, articles or sources I or anyone will post, nothing will change. I mean, no one care if it is wrong or right, all they care about is their beliefs whether it is delusional or not. Here's shocking information for you, I used to be a republican. I resigned from being a republican right after plummeted by facts & evidences. Hence why my presence around here, AD will be no longer soon because I am going to be a activist and do something about it instead of wasting my time around here.

Stereotyping? Generalizing? Hardly but you are entitled to your own opinions. Remember that it was according to experiences I had and this "mirrorism". Nothing else. [/rant]

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[Askjo]

I can see why Askjo ignored that excellent post - He is just too young and ignorant to read that.

Go to read CyberRed's answer to Banjo:

Banjo, Askjo is tellin' the truth about 666 in nowdays. And, yes those computers are 666, because of Big Brother is out there watchin'. And, about visa cards thing... yes, they are 666, because we are headin' to cashless society down the road and, all the cards will change big time. For example: all cards will change and will put everyone's personal info. in it -- such as "National ID card" or "Biometric card" and all that stuff. When that happens down the road, it will violate everyone's rights to privacy in despite of what the laws required and, yet we still give up the freedom to them.
I understand what Askjo talked about. Government will control us and, we will no longer control what WE, the people want to enjoy our freedom.

Crazymanw00t answered to me:

The computer wasn’t designed for the 666 purpose. It was designed to have better communication, develop new technologies faster, and make many human's job easier with it. Jesus Christ used the computer for you to communicate with me about the gospel and he used me to challenge you and sharp your mind for some kind of challenge in your life. It is not only because of me it is just for the communications.

Who did CyberRed agree with? It is me, not Crazymanw00t. That is why CyberRed and I are patient with him because he drank the Word of God, but CyberRed and I ate the Word of God. CyberRed and I get along very well. Why did Crazymanw00t not get along with me? Did Crazymanw00t answer on CyberRed's comment above? Where is his comment to her?

CyberRed and I love him in the Lord. I disagree with Crazymanw00t's comment because of the doctrine of the calvinism. Let me give you what Crazymanw00t post against me:

Jesus Christ is the sovereignty and he decides who ever will sins and not to sin.

Crazymanw00t said, "God decides." That is very unscriptural because Crazymanw00t is a Calvinist. I am not.

 

[Maria]

Crazymanw00t, I noticed your signature on the bottom it said "Calvinist".

Which one do you believe...

Freewill or Predestination ?

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Crazymanw00t, I noticed your signature on the bottom it said "Calvinist".

Which one do you believe...

Freewill or Predestination ?

Obviously the Freewill is not a Bibical thing. I am Predestination, reformed, Calvinist, and TULIP. All same.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Go to read CyberRed's answer to Banjo: Crazymanw00t answered to me: Who did CyberRed agree with? It is me, not Crazymanw00t. That is why CyberRed and I are patient with him because he drank the Word of God, but CyberRed and I ate the Word of God.

What are you talking about? The person who knows more about Bible and his walking must have ate lots of God's words. While I am rebuttaling with your knowledge and you are saying that you ate more words than I do. WoW!!! That is a uber super bomb comments!

CyberRed and I get along very well. Why did Crazymanw00t not get along with me? Did Crazymanw00t answer on CyberRed's comment above? Where is his comment to her?

I would get along with you if you are following what the Bible is saying. So far you are twisting the Bible's points. Askjo you are the only one that keeps replying back to me therefore I am talking to you. CyberRed is adding your comments and I don't care about her comments so far she added the verses with her comments. I can correct her but she got it a better points than you do. I am here to challenge your mind and that not means that I am here to twist you down.

CyberRed and I love him in the Lord. I disagree with Crazymanw00t's comment because of the doctrine of the calvinism. Let me give you what Crazymanw00t post against me: Crazymanw00t said, "God decides." That is very unscriptural because Crazymanw00t is a Calvinist. I am not.

Doctrine of the calvinism is a absolute truth from the Bible. He (Lord) is ruler of everything from past to future. Do you want me to explain you the TULIP thing?

 

[Reba]

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[Reba]

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I usually am not generalizing or stereotyping...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stereotype
ster·e·o·type :
A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.

An often oversimplified or biased mental picture held to characterize the typical individual of a group.

A conventional or formulaic conception or image.

To treat or classify according to a mental stereotype.

.. they ...Rightwings/Fundamentalists Christians ...they ...they ...they ... they ... They ...they ... their beliefs ...

Stereotyping? Generalizing?

Yes, that is. You clump everyone who opposes your beliefs into one homogenous group of "them" and "they". There is no such thing as one huge monolithic political religious group but that is all you see. You don't see the individuals or the smaller subgroups, or the overlapping groups. It is all "they".

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Reba got the point.

 

[Beowulf]

Give me a break, Reba.
You do the same thing by calling everyone who is not supposedly "born again" LOST. That is a judgemental generalization too.

 

[Nusentinsaino]

Like i said Askjo, Too ignorant. You used Cyberred's post to explain your reasoning.... Sad.

 

[Reba]

Give me a break, Reba.
You do the same thing by calling everyone who is not supposedly "born again" LOST. That is a judgemental generalization too.

I do not stereotype lost people. For example, I don't say, "all lost people think this, or do that." I know that each person is an individual. Each unsaved person is different. There are good unsaved people, and there are bad unsaved people. There are intelligent unsaved people, and there are ignorant unsaved people. There are hard-working unsaved people, and there are lazy unsaved people. Some unsaved people never go to church, some unsaved people go to church every week. Some unsaved people are Democrats, some are Republicans. Some are urban northerners, some are rural southeners.

See the difference? I don't say that all unsaved people have the same lives, same opinions, same IQs, same goals, same associations, etc.