Under the Word of God

[Cheri]

I do not think that you understand what CyberRed talked about God. I agree with CyberRed.

She not talking about God? She copying everything off the bible and posted it here. That's not the same thing as her own opinions that came out of her mind. Big differences.

The Heretic is the only one in here doesn't copy stuff off the bible and post it in here, He uses his own wordings. That makes him know more.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

If the Law exists, therefore the sin exists.

If the Satan exists, the crimes exist.

If the earth exists, the Creator (Jesus Christ) exists.

If 3 groups of race exist, Noah's 3 children exist.

If the computer exists, the 666 exists.

If the VISA exists, the 666 exists again.

If .....

Cmom you are not limited to that way. You can find other ways to explain to us than the causal reasoning methods. How old are you? I am very curious with that. I am nineteen and I am still cooking you up.

 

[The Heretic]

Cmom you are not limited to that way. You can find other ways to explain to us than the causal reasoning methods. How old are you? I am very curious with that. I am nineteen and I am still cooking you up.

Yes, he seems limited in his responses, Crazy.

I don't think age has anything to do with competence.
I suggest you to go and join theologyweb.com for serious discussions regarding christianity, very in-depth and thorough analysis of the bible. That way you will be able to talk to anyone without the narrow, one-sided method Askjo uses.

You won't find it here.

 

[Maria]

She not talking about God? She copying everything off the bible and posted it here. That's not the same thing as her own opinions that came out of her mind. Big differences.

The Heretic is the only one in here doesn't copy stuff off the bible and post it in here, He uses his own wordings. That makes him know more.

Since I can understand that you don't understand the scriptures, except with the PICTURES with scriptures that could help you to understand. And, even movies you watched. I read KJV twice from Genesis to Revelation in the past and, I do REMEMBER some scriptures what GOD says. You prefer other versions to read better than KJV and, you don't share the scriptures to remember what it says in the bible, except Mary and Joseph as you stated in another thread.

 

[Cheri]

Since I can understand that you don't understand the scriptures, except with the PICTURES with scriptures that could help you to understand. And, even movies you watched. I read KJV twice from Genesis to Revelation in the past and, I do REMEMBER some scriptures what GOD says. You prefer other versions to read better than KJV and, you don't share the scriptures to remember what it says in the bible, except Mary and Joseph as you stated in another thread.

You don't even understand my post, Never mind.

And about Mary and Joseph were my own wording not scriptures from the bible big differences, compare to what you have posted.

 

[Nusentinsaino]

If the Law exists, therefore the sin exists.

If the Satan exists, the crimes exist.

If the earth exists, the Creator (Jesus Christ) exists.

If 3 groups of race exist, Noah's 3 children exist.

If the computer exists, the 666 exists.

If the VISA exists, the 666 exists again.

If .....

You're saying that 666 exists because computers were invented? and even worse you compare 666 with a Visa credit card.... You are pathetic.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

You're saying that 666 exists because computers were invented? and even worse you compare 666 with a Visa credit card.... You are pathetic.

100% agree and that is a not reason of the cause. Finally you already provided the wrong information therefore you already hurted your credibility.

 

[Askjo]

You're saying that 666 exists because computers were invented? and even worse you compare 666 with a Visa credit card.... You are pathetic.

You can't cease the prophecy. How did I know they are 666? FIGURE OUT - I find the EVIDENCES! For example, NEW YORK is 666 itself. Do you know why it is 666? If so, HOW? Explain.

 

[Askjo]

100% agree and that is a not reason of the cause. Finally you already provided the wrong information therefore you already hurted your credibility.

Is the prophecy NOT the reason of the cause?

Wrong information? Are computer and VISA NOT 666? Please PROVE me!

Hurt my credibility? Sorry, you are mistaken to say that.

 

[Banjo]

Is the prophecy NOT the reason of the cause?

Wrong information? Are computer and VISA NOT 666? Please PROVE me!

Hurt my credibility? Sorry, you are mistaken to say that.

What a bunch of nonsense!

No, you have to prove that computers and such things are part of the "666" hype you've been playing up on. Yet you don't practice what you preach, you are using a computer!

 

[Vance]

Yet you don't practice what you preach, you are using a computer!

Damn you! Damn you forever! I want to point that out but you did that before I can! Good catch, Banjo!

 

[Maria]

What a bunch of nonsense!

No, you have to prove that computers and such things are part of the "666" hype you've been playing up on. Yet you don't practice what you preach, you are using a computer!

Banjo, Askjo is tellin' the truth about 666 in nowdays. And, yes those computers are 666, because of Big Brother is out there watchin'. And, about visa cards thing... yes, they are 666, because we are headin' to cashless society down the road and, all the cards will change big time. For example: all cards will change and will put everyone's personal info. in it -- such as "National ID card" or "Biometric card" and all that stuff. When that happens down the road, it will violate everyone's rights to privacy in despite of what the laws required and, yet we still give up the freedom to them.
I understand what Askjo talked about. Government will control us and, we will no longer control what WE, the people want to enjoy our freedom.

 

[Vance]

Take away the particular and look at the underlying sentence structure.

If God exist, then we exist.
And we do exist. Therefore, God exists!

Wonderful logic! This is a fallacy called the affirmation of the consequent. Very few people use critical thinking, Nusentinsaino, and that's true for christians as well. I know plenty of intelligent people who do not use the tactics of Askjo or others in this thread where they merely parrot the bible, never show an ounce of original thought or even attempt at direct communication. But those people don't waste their time on alldeaf.com. You can find better representives on theologyweb.com or theologyonline.com.

They know their stuff. Well, some of them.

I don't want to get involved in this topic but seem that I am in mood to browse this topic... I read several topics at theologyweb.com and I like what I see. I am glad that you posted these links because I have been looking for the sites/forums like these for me to learn one or two things about theology subjects. Thank for posted these links!

 

[Askjo]

What a bunch of nonsense!

No, you have to prove that computers and such things are part of the "666" hype you've been playing up on. Yet you don't practice what you preach, you are using a computer!

You admitted saying you are a Christian. You contradict yourself by using a computer.

 

[Askjo]

She not talking about God? She copying everything off the bible and posted it here. That's not the same thing as her own opinions that came out of her mind. Big differences.

CyberRed provided some Scriptures what she talked about. The Bible is God-speaking. CyberRed copied and pasted the Scriptures here because you read them then you are blessed (Rev. 1:3). Complain? or Thank her?

Cheri, to me is to THANK her for her sharing God's Words with you. I praise the Lord for CyberRed's great testimony.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Is the prophecy NOT the reason of the cause?

Wrong information? Are computer and VISA NOT 666? Please PROVE me!

Hurt my credibility? Sorry, you are mistaken to say that.

You can't cease the prophecy. How did I know they are 666? FIGURE OUT - I find the EVIDENCES! For example, NEW YORK is 666 itself. Do you know why it is 666? If so, HOW? Explain.

You must be smoking the weed or the cracks, anyway.
(it means you don’t understand me)

You already hurt your own credibility.

The computer wasn’t designed for the 666 purpose. It was designed to have better communication, develop new technologies faster, and make many human's job easier with it. Jesus Christ used the computer for you to communicate with me about the gospel and he used me to challenge you and sharp your mind for some kind of challenge in your life. It is not only because of me it is just for the communications.

Does it make sense?
The Pearl Harbor caused the World War 2. No The American involved the War with the European’s war theater.

If the Satan exists, the crimes exist. Not always true. Why? Jesus Christ is the sovereignty and he decides who ever will sins and not to sin. Satan is not responsible for the sin. YOU are the responsible for your own SIN!!!!!! The Satan never caused the crime. We caused the crime because we broke the laws. Your comments with that never made sense to me.

Yes, I know the world leader will use the computer to watch us, yes, I know that and that do not applies to us right now. It is in the future and why should we care about it? Care what it is happening right now, look forward in a short terms, long terms, and spread the gospels.

Let’s me copy from my public speaking book with what is Causal Reasoning,
Stephen E. Lucas “The Art of Public Speaking” 8th Edition. Published by Mc Graw Hill, 2004

Page 443
“Causal Reasoning
Reasoning that seeks to establish the relationship between causes and effects.”

Page 443
"One student in speech class argued that the Cold War that existed between the Western democracies and the communist nations of eastern Europe until the demolishing of the Berlin Wall in 1989 was caused by the United States’ decision to drop the atomic bomb at Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II. His reasoning? Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed in August 1945. The Cold War began a few months later. Therefore, the beginning of the Cold War was caused by the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The student’s classmates were not persuaded. They pointed out that the simple fact that the Cold War started after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki does not prove that it was caused by the bombing; the Cold War would have broken out even if the United States had not dropped atomic bombs on Japan.”

Askjo, you have same logic with that message. You are using the causal reasoning, which it is not 100% true. If you want to prove us and please specific your evidences with the reliable sources and it is must for you because you destroyed your own credibility.

Right now, I am going to judging you a little for now. It is very obviously that you are obsessed about the Revelation chapter. You should not be very obsessed or be obsessed about the Revelation chapter. You should focus on the gospel to the people. Always try to avoid sharing the revelation to the people because it will confuse them and it will make them reject the Christianity because they think you are threatening them. It is best if you explain the Old Testament and New Testament to them first before you can explain the revelation to them. They will understand the revelation chapter after they understood the whole book of the Bible. Revelation is an example of God's Wrath at our sin. How can someone understand God's wrath at our sin without understanding the sin’s system? The true Christian always focuses on the Old Testaments and New Testament before the Revelation chapter. The revelation chapter is full of symbolism and we may be wrong with translating the Revelation to the people. That is why I am suggesting you to throw away the obsessing the Revelation chapter and focus on the gospel.

I admit that I am not ready to read throughly with the Revelation chapter because I am not 100% knowledge with the Old Testament and New Testaments. I am already a 3 years old Christian. Yes I know partly of the Revelation because I read the Left-Behind books. It is good book to read and try not use those book to gospel to the people. Those books is fake story and a pragmatic book.

 

[Askjo]

The Heretic is the only one in here doesn't copy stuff off the bible and post it in here, He uses his own wordings. That makes him know more.

Cheri, you are right, BUT

CyberRed -- Copied and pasted the Scriptures on her posts.

The Heretic - gave the LINK in his posts.

Cheri, can't YOU see what the Heretic did? Link ... Link ... Link .... Link!!!

 

[Beowulf]

LOL!!!!
So???????????

 

[Banjo]

You admitted saying you are a Christian. You contradict yourself by using a computer.

I didn't contradict myself, you did. You went on and on about how computers are a part of the 666. I had to point out the fact that you don't practice what you preach.

Proof?

Quite an easy one... you're on this forum. No way would it had been possible to get here at Alldeaf without the use of a computer. Therefore, you support the Devil.

Yes, I am a Christian. But it doesn't mean I agree with you.

 

[Banjo]

Banjo, Askjo is tellin' the truth about 666 in nowdays. And, yes those computers are 666, because of Big Brother is out there watchin'. And, about visa cards thing... yes, they are 666, because we are headin' to cashless society down the road and, all the cards will change big time. For example: all cards will change and will put everyone's personal info. in it -- such as "National ID card" or "Biometric card" and all that stuff. When that happens down the road, it will violate everyone's rights to privacy in despite of what the laws required and, yet we still give up the freedom to them.
I understand what Askjo talked about. Government will control us and, we will no longer control what WE, the people want to enjoy our freedom.

You are not being forced to use computers. Nobody's holding a gun to your head to use the computers. Therefore, you are showing your true colours by revealing that you will say such a thing yet you don't practice it.

Go ahead and live in a forest.