U.S. preacher’s plan to burn Koran inflames Muslims

Really. You got a pastor with 50 followers in some small bit church in Gainsville, Florida getting all this coverage as if this was going on nationally?

Please. Get a grip everybody. I can see how the WH and MSM taking a run with this, too. Two more months to go. And I wonder how long this story line will keep churning, too, til then?
 
kokonut said:
*groannnnnn*

Programmed?
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Yes. I went to a discussion group over this matter and it will take me a while to make a coherent response. I will make a reply sometime today, though. Patience.
 
Beowulf said:
The media.
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From what I've seen, most of the media products support American Muslims, and criticize anti-Muslim activities.

Do you feel that you are being programmed? Have your beliefs been changed by the media?
 
Reba said:
From what I've seen, most of the media products support American Muslims, and criticize anti-Muslim activities.

Do you feel that you are being programmed? Have your beliefs been changed by the media?
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Nope. Forewarned is forearmed.
 
kokonut said:
You beat me to it, Reba.

Exactly.

Also, it's the media that have endangered our troops, our churches, our people, etc and not just the book burning action per se. Had the media not reported on this none of this mock outrage would have happened.

Will the media pick up on this story...straight out of Dearborn, MI?
Dearborn schools, former Fordson principal are sued | freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Interesting.
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A good example. It is merely one of the steps in the process, i.e., the promotion of Multiculturalism as unquestionable progress.
 
What exactly was the story about? And what are the odds that this story will not hit the mainstream media?
 
kokonut said:
What exactly was the story about? And what are the odds that this story will not hit the mainstream media?
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The odds are not good for this particular story, but the number of others ensure some will hit mainstream media. Who cares what the story is about? I ignored it.
 
In example of Reba's question,

The suit said Fadlallah, who became principal of Fordson in 2005, is a devout Muslim who used his position to promote Islam in hiring, promotions and disciplinary actions, systematically weeding out Christian teachers, coaches and other employees because of their beliefs.
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and let's change that story a little,

The suit said Fagin, who became principal of Dearborn HS in 2005, is a devout Christian who used his position to promote Christianity in hiring, promotions and disciplinary actions, systematically weeding out non-Christian teachers, coaches and other employees because of their beliefs.
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Now, what are the odds the MSM will pick up the story? First one or the second one and run with it?
 
Let's be honest... There is always someone in America who is doing something hateful/stupid/disrespectful. Don't you think the media is capitalizing on this story to generate controversy? In reality, 50 years from now,when we find another group to hate (I predict it's going to the the Chinese again), this story would be just like a person burning the bible or the flag. Most of us would roll our eyes and ignore this event, because our emotions do not run high for this group anymore.

For me, America would be better if people thought logically and not let emotions get the best of them.

But we ARE humans after all, right?

Even though I partially blame the media for simply being a firestarter, getting people all riled up, it's interesting to see the comments people have made. I'm actually surprised that a good number of people (but still minority) actually are frothing at the mouths and yelling "BURN THEM!!!". I believe they have every right to burn them but it's really too bad that they can't see that they've sunk to the level of their own enemies (the extremists, not Muslims as a whole).
 
Have you see Muslim kill women for being cheating, show legs, being whore? Horrible punishment than us.
 
netrox said:
I am sorry but when I read Koran, all I see is hate and violence. There's absolutely no grace in it. It's very bitter, angry, and judgmental. It speaks low of Jews, infidels, and Christians.

Muslims think that the Jews and Christians altered their holy books and that Quran is the final book. Whatever.

If we burn bibles, I don't hear Christians saying "Death!" If we burn korans, we already get death threats on our heads.
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If you've read the Koran, you know Arabic. I doubt this highly. I'm willing to set aside this doubt but I must ask you, have you read the Bible and Koran in their original languages? Name all three. I know I haven't.

Many wars and acts of violence are based on miscommunication, and some of it are genuine mistranslations ("altered"). Basic rule of thumb, most true believers of major religions do not support acts of violence. Do you really think that this one church in Florida represents a truer form of Christianity that supports the burning of others religious texts?

Ask Muslims in non-American countries if 9/11 was justifiable and/or carried out by true Muslims.

Think Germany was just full of Germans who were Nazi's and supported that government to the extent where they took pleasure in the violence that ensued? I highly recommend a semi-autobiography titled "Defying Hitler".

Since we live in America, we respect the First Amendment to freedom of speech (to an extent of course) and that includes - symbolically burning a specific book. Others people living in other countries might be prosecuted for this because it's spelled out in their laws. But that's not the source of fear and anxiety of what could happen if the burning does take place. It's the ignorance of believing that some great theological supremacy exists and provides a neat and tidy explanation for 9/11.

Passing the idea of it and the media authenticating the idea with pictures and video of the paster proclaiming the intention of burning the Koran will be used for propaganda for those "extremists" - both "Muslim" and "Christian".

Grow up and stop playing my dad can beat up my dad. Nobody is Superior or Inferior.
 
craigm26 said:
If you've read the Koran, you know Arabic. I doubt this highly. I'm willing to set aside this doubt but I must ask you, have you read the Bible and Koran in their original languages? Name all three. I know I haven't.

Many wars and acts of violence are based on miscommunication, and some of it are genuine mistranslations ("altered"). Basic rule of thumb, most true believers of major religions do not support acts of violence. Do you really think that this one church in Florida represents a truer form of Christianity that supports the burning of others religious texts?

Ask Muslims in non-American countries if 9/11 was justifiable and/or carried out by true Muslims.

Think Germany was just full of Germans who were Nazi's and supported that government to the extent where they took pleasure in the violence that ensued? I highly recommend a semi-autobiography titled "Defying Hitler".

Since we live in America, we respect the First Amendment to freedom of speech (to an extent of course) and that includes - symbolically burning a specific book. Others people living in other countries might be prosecuted for this because it's spelled out in their laws. But that's not the source of fear and anxiety of what could happen if the burning does take place. It's the ignorance of believing that some great theological supremacy exists and provides a neat and tidy explanation for 9/11.

Passing the idea of it and the media authenticating the idea with pictures and video of the paster proclaiming the intention of burning the Koran will be used for propaganda for those "extremists" - both "Muslim" and "Christian".

Grow up and stop playing my dad can beat up my dad. Nobody is Superior or Inferior.
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I have asked muslims from foreign countries about their feelings of 9/11.

The answer has ALWAYS BEEN, "Any friend of Israel is an enemy of Islam".

Take that to the bank.

(btw, what is a non-american country?)
 
Steinhauer said:
I have asked muslims from foreign countries about their feelings of 9/11.

The answer has ALWAYS BEEN, "Any friend of Israel is an enemy of Islam".

Take that to the bank.

(btw, what is a non-american country?)
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It means out of USA.
 
Florida pastor calls off Quran burning
"We will definitely not burn the Quran," the Rev. Terry Jones told NBC's "Today" on Saturday "Not today, not ever." The burning had been planned for 6 p.m.
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Good. Thank you Jones. You just saved the American lives abroad. Now next time - don't act stupidly and put our lives in danger.
 
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