Troubled Spirit

[EagleCherokee63]

Okay that makes me feel better and I am smiling now. Thank you for your advising me of what is going on and Thank you to God first too as the glory goes to God of Israel Alone Himself, Forever and Ever Amen.

KJV Bible say Psalms 91: 1-16 Good one verses!

1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2 I will say of the LORD, [He is] my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, [and] from the noisome pestilence.

4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth [shall be thy] shield and buckler.

5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; [nor] for the arrow [that] flieth by day;

6 [Nor] for the pestilence [that] walketh in darkness; [nor] for the destruction [that] wasteth at noonday.

7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; [but] it shall not come nigh thee.

8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9 Because thou hast made the LORD, [which is] my refuge, [even] the most High, thy habitation;

10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12 They shall bear thee up in [their] hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I [will be] with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

 

[jazzy]

Troubled Spirit

Do you believe that once a person gets involved in tarot cards, spiritual mediums, indian spirit guide, wiccan, white/black witchcrafts, and all kind of things -- he/she will experience depression, suicide, death by accidents, evil spirit harrassment, and all ?

Please, discuss/share your opinions, point of views and experiences here.

I used to play tarot and oujia board. I had many interest experiences from it when I was younger. It was fun while it lasted. I do not see any evil spirits nor demon around me. Only mind game, u make believe out of it yourself. u can create something out of nowhere with your mind and thought. It can make it comes true only if you believe in it. There is no such thing as demon possesssed as others believes.

 

[netrox]

Do you believe that once a person gets involved in tarot cards, spiritual mediums, indian spirit guide, wiccan, white/black witchcrafts, and all kind of things -- he/she will experience depression, suicide, death by accidents, evil spirit harrassment, and all ?

I believe that anyone who gets too involved with the superstitution and the myths will be more depressed or mentally unstable than those who are moderate and don't treat them literally.

As for accidents and evil spirits, non-sense.

 

[Teresh]

Reba,

Nowhere in the Bible does it say a Christian can be "demon possessed." However, I believe a Christian can be "demon oppressed and influenced," which is biblical.

Heh. My mother thinks the Pope is possessed.

 

[Maria]

Witches have tried to infulence me when I was asleep in my own house and then 2 or 3 streets down where the witches live in their own house sent succubui demonic spirts to my house which was very shocking. I did not like or appreciate that. I have played with the ouija board as well as different things when I was younger and I repented of that through My Lord Jesus Christ and Personal Savior. I also have had satan tempt me to be healed by him and not by God of Israel and The Lord Jesus Christ. I would not play with witchcraft or any of those things. I also have had voodoo dolls really hurt my leg before and I commanded it to go away in the Name of Jesus Christ, pleaded the Precious Blood of Jesus Christ on my leg. I have had satanic prayers been initated by someone else before and rebuked those satanic prayers in the Name of Jesus Christ. I have had many different spiritual experiences and saw good spiritual things happen as well as demonic spiritual things happen. Witchcraft and occultic things are not to be taken very lightly because somebody may have really prayed and invested in that and you can never be safe with the devil or one of his demons at all, not even for a mintune or at all. God of Israel and Jesus Christ is your ulimate safety and you will have good spiritual experiences with God of Israel and The Lord Jesus Christ.

Do you know somethin' very interestin' ? I just realized that when a person accept Jesus Christ as personal Saviour and, then try to grow in the Lord by readin' the bible daily ( to get to know Him better ) -- and, have a good fellowship with sisters and brothers in Christ via prayers ( by attendin' church/ or homes ).... when that person grows enough to get to know the Lord in a short/long time, he/she happen backslides for some reasons and starts to get involved in tarot card, white/black witchcrafts, wiccan, ouija board, and different kind of things that will open the door for the devil to come in his/her life. He/She will fall into deep darkness and experience frightened things - I mean, reallllly frightened things - not just light like surface, but heavy. I learned that it depends on HOW MUCH he/she knew God by His Scriptures will be more likely the same amount of HOW MUCH he/she will experience in darkness, too. There's no different amount from one another -- good or bad. It pays the same amount of consequences.

If, a person knows God very little, then he/she will experience very little about the darkness... unless, if someone else teaches/influences that person about darkness, then he/she will experience heavy darkness. If, experiencin' heavy darkness, then he/she needs Jesus Christ to break the darkness. This one is not goin' to be that easy.

For instance : What goes around comes around will receive the same amount for what a person did to others. Just be careful what a person asks for. That's my belief.

 

[Maria]

Alright...here is ONE of many experiences:

I actually stopped by and entered into the
Tarot House even for a few minutes 2 or 3 minutes
Then, I got overwhelmed and I simply gave up and
then walked away from that house
immediately because of these vibes.

Few weeks later I read the newspaper article
about THAT Tarot house they got caught and
arrested because when their customers went
inside and closed their eyes during the session
at the same time these Tarot people
robbed and stole their credit cards and money
from their own customers !

Many Thanks to the Lord for this Special Gift
from the Lord where I am very sensitive with that kind
of vibes where I was able to recognize these kind of vibes
and then I just stay away from them... it is a Special Gift
where I keep the communications level
between the Lord and me only. It's a Good thing
that I listened carefully or otherwise I'd be in
a big Deep Trouble. PTL !

I have a question for you : Are you born-again Christian ?

 

[Maria]

I used to play tarot and oujia board. I had many interest experiences from it when I was younger. It was fun while it lasted. I do not see any evil spirits nor demon around me. Only mind game, u make believe out of it yourself. u can create something out of nowhere with your mind and thought. It can make it comes true only if you believe in it. There is no such thing as demon possesssed as others believes.

I am curious to ask you - how old were you when you found Jesus ?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I used to play tarot and oujia board. I had many interest experiences from it when I was younger. It was fun while it lasted. I do not see any evil spirits nor demon around me. Only mind game, u make believe out of it yourself. u can create something out of nowhere with your mind and thought. It can make it comes true only if you believe in it. There is no such thing as demon possesssed as others believes.

Yes I have the same share as you as well... I love being curious to experience something until I satisfy my curious...

I was like oh yeah because it´s really nothing but it would be different story if you suffer mental health.

 

[jazzy]

I am curious to ask you - how old were you when you found Jesus ?

U asking me when I found Jesus? I already knew Him at very young and I was His little follower till I was adult then I walked away from Him. Then at age 35, when I decided to became vegatarian and took herbs to cleansing my body. It was backfire and almost lost my life, that was when He came to me. I was upset when I saw Him first time and knew what I did to myself. He has not left me since then. I threw games away cuz they were no use to me. All I need was to remind myself of His present thru prayer and reading bible.

 

[jazzy]

Yes I have the same share as you as well... I love being curious to experience something until I satisfy my curious...

I was like oh yeah because it´s really nothing but it would be different story if you suffer mental health.

I agree. Also some people are obession with it and it can mess themselves up.

 

[Reba]

Reba,

Nowhere in the Bible does it say a Christian can be "demon possessed." However, I believe a Christian can be "demon oppressed and influenced," which is biblical.

I never said that a Christian can be demon possessed.

The Holy Spirit indwells a born-again Christian, so that person can NOT be possessed by a satanic spirit.

You are correct about demon oppression and influence.

 

[pek1]

I never said that a Christian can be demon possessed.

The Holy Spirit indwells a born-again Christian, so that person can NOT be possessed by a satanic spirit.

You are correct about demon oppression and influence.

Post #7.

 

[Reba]

Post #7.

What about Post #7? Here is the entire exact quote:

"I believe it makes people vulnerable to demon influence and possession."

Where do I say "Christian"?

 

[Heath]

Even people with stable minds have had bad experieces with the occultic things and the occultic prayers etc. It is not just those who are mentally unstable. It happens even to people with stable minds and stable lives.

 

[pek1]

What about Post #7? Here is the entire exact quote:

"I believe it makes people vulnerable to demon influence and possession."

Where do I say "Christian"?

Pardon . . . it was presumed on my part, as I thought this is what you meant. Reba.

 

[Reba]

Pardon . . . it was presumed on my part, as I thought this is what you meant. Reba.

No problem.

 

[moonflower]

i sense things i am sensitive

 

[Y]

I have a question for you : Are you born-again Christian ?

Yeah, you figured it out correctly...

 

[Maria]

Yeah, you figured it out correctly...

Great !

 

[Maria]

U asking me when I found Jesus? I already knew Him at very young and I was His little follower till I was adult then I walked away from Him. Then at age 35, when I decided to became vegatarian and took herbs to cleansing my body. It was backfire and almost lost my life, that was when He came to me. I was upset when I saw Him first time and knew what I did to myself. He has not left me since then. I threw games away cuz they were no use to me. All I need was to remind myself of His present thru prayer and reading bible.

That's normal for some Christians who were born-again for a long time and, then backslided from God -- I also heard that the first time after they are " born-again " Christians, things are easy. But, after they backslide -- things are different than the first time, because of the " struggle " experiences. That's what happened to me, because I left God for this world after I accepted Jesus Christ as personal Saviour for a long time. But, now I am in struggle. I've never touched any kinds of things like tarot card, ouija boards, white/black witchcrafts, and etc., etc. I am too aware of those kinds of things because, I read the bible TWICE and God warned about them.

It broke my heart to learn that my oldest daughter IS involved in tarot card. Her other friend taught her and after that, her friend never saw my daughter again. Her friend was from other country, a " foreign " friend. After my daughter played with tarot card about a year later, she received lumps in her breast and it spreads. She refused to see doctor about it when I told her to go to - I was very worried about her. She also received meds. for biopolar disorder. She NEVER had lumps/or biopolar disorder before until AFTER she played with fire ( tarot card ). She even told me that she believes BOTH God and tarot card. She was explainin' to me about her beliefs in " spiritual ". Guess what ? I did told her not to tell me about my destiny/ or fate when she plays with tarot card over my life. I am not interested in playin' with fire.

I still love my daughter very much. She is my baby.