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souggy said:
I have seen students who studied together. The ones that stuck with books only passed the exams.

The ones that spent all their time entertaining themselves... with the SAME e-book in front of them... failed.
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Proof please.
 
Ask my professor. :)

He resides in the music hall at my old town's university.

So even with access to Internet, as long you can use your time EFFECTIVELY... that is the deal-breaker.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
They just get their info. from other people, especially on politics. You'll be surprised how many people never went to a public library. So, I don't see how computers made it worst.
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You're right, I would be surprised if you're including people of my generation.

My family (me, mom, grandma) went to the public library at least once a week to load up on books. My mom and grandma did that until they died. My mom enjoyed historical novels (really thick ones especially). My grandma enjoyed biographies and art books. I learned a lot about various artists from browsing thru her library books when I would visit her. Neither one of them ever had a computer.

My dad was an electrical engineer for Bell Labs, Lockheed, NASA, NAVAIRSYSCOM, and NARF San Diego. He held several patents, and made money off of them. He worked on the X-15 and Gemini projects in the 1950's-60's. He didn't own a computer but he developed computer systems for all the above.

He made good use of the library when he attended University of Florida college of engineering for his bachelor's degree.

My high school friends and I used to go to the library together, and actually look at books and magazines there! :shock:

One year, when I was in high school, I entered a magazine contest that required a research essay to enter. I used the library for my research. I didn't win the top prize but I won a one-year free subscription to the magazine. (It was Soviet Life magazine--but that's another story from my past, ha, ha.)

Oh, well. I guess I'm showing my age. :laugh2:
 
souggy said:
Ask my professor. :)

He resides in the music hall at my old town's university.

So even with access to Internet, as long you can use your time EFFECTIVELY... that is the deal-breaker.
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Is he anti- Ebook?
 
Lighthouse77 said:
you know, there have been talk of making less books and more e-book.
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I hope that day will never come.

Too bad it will come though. I do know authors are not a big fan of it because they haven't worked out the copyrights kink out for electronics yet.
 
Reba said:
You're right, I would be surprised if you're including people of my generation.

My family (me, mom, grandma) went to the public library at least once a week to load up on books. My mom and grandma did that until they died. My mom enjoyed historical novels (really thick ones especially). My grandma enjoyed biographies and art books. I learned a lot about various artists from browsing thru her library books when I would visit her. Neither one of them ever had a computer.

My dad was an electrical engineer for Bell Labs, Lockheed, NASA, NAVAIRSYSCOM, and NARF San Diego. He held several patents, and made money off of them. He worked on the X-15 and Gemini projects in the 1950's-60's. He didn't own a computer but he developed computer systems for all the above.

He made good use of the library when he attended University of Florida college of engineering for his bachelor's degree.

My high school friends and I used to go to the library together, and actually look at books and magazines there! :shock:

One year, when I was in high school, I entered a magazine contest that required a research essay to enter. I used the library for my research. I didn't win the top prize but I won a one-year free subscription to the magazine. (It was Soviet Life magazine--but that's another story from my past, ha, ha.)

Oh, well. I guess I'm showing my age. :laugh2:
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Even in your generation. Some people just don't care.alot of people in your generation could not read and write and some are drop out.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Is he anti- Ebook?
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Nah, not anti-ebook.

I saw it. :) I know who the students are, and what their grades were.

He doesn't care if students pass or fail. That's our responsibility. However to say that people who use computers are more educated is a false assumption.
 
Jiro said:
oh? so why did military and universities create ARPANET (now called as Internet)? it's obviously because this allow people of great minds to reach the goal more quickly.
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It fulfilled a specific task but it didn't make people any more educated. The "great minds" who developed those means grew up during the Depression and World War II, with a few Baby Boomer whiz kids. None of them grew up with computers, yet they were the technology innovators.
 
Psst...

Jill B is laughing now because she's learning more about her course's material... while Jill A is busy browsing AllDeaf debating with faceless people while having the academic database in a separate window in the background. :)
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Even in your generation. Some people just don't care.alot of people in your generation could not read and write and some are drop out.
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Are you kidding? :eek3: The drop out and illiteracy rate was less at my high schools then any of the ones I see in my local area now.
 
no I'm not kidding. The drop out and illiterate rates are just growing because the population is growing. I'm sure your school was smaller back in your days too.

My mother told me she was the first to actually finish school. No one else have ever did that in her family history. But she also told me that alot of people dropped out of her school because they had a hard time learning (learning disability) and kept failing. So they gave up and drop out.
 
Reba said:
You're right, I would be surprised if you're including people of my generation.

My family (me, mom, grandma) went to the public library at least once a week to load up on books. My mom and grandma did that until they died. My mom enjoyed historical novels (really thick ones especially). My grandma enjoyed biographies and art books. I learned a lot about various artists from browsing thru her library books when I would visit her. Neither one of them ever had a computer.

My dad was an electrical engineer for Bell Labs, Lockheed, NASA, NAVAIRSYSCOM, and NARF San Diego. He held several patents, and made money off of them. He worked on the X-15 and Gemini projects in the 1950's-60's. He didn't own a computer but he developed computer systems for all the above.

He made good use of the library when he attended University of Florida college of engineering for his bachelor's degree.

My high school friends and I used to go to the library together, and actually look at books and magazines there! :shock:

One year, when I was in high school, I entered a magazine contest that required a research essay to enter. I used the library for my research. I didn't win the top prize but I won a one-year free subscription to the magazine. (It was Soviet Life magazine--but that's another story from my past, ha, ha.)

Oh, well. I guess I'm showing my age. :laugh2:
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When I was in business the Library was a necessary tool. I go there still just to read sometimes. I like the coffee at Barnes and Noble better though....Heading there in just a bit in fact. Time to brush up on TJ :)
 
OMG! Manual typewriter! We had one when I was growing up. lol

I like the library because I memorize where the books are located. I know exactly where to pull the volume I want. I cling to the books! I like having the book in my hand. Don't take my books! Oh, noooooo!

TXgolfer, be sure to read about the new DNA tests on Sally Hemmings' ancestors. Turns out that TJ's family tree has more branches than previously acknowledged.
 
Reba said:
I don't hate Jefferson, and I don't personally know any other conservatives who hate him. We are glad for the wall of separation that protects the churches from the state. It's more contemporary people who have twisted that phrase to imply that religious people should stay out of politics.
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Now there is a big BIG rub.

Separation of church and state.

It seems like such a simple concept when you say it:

But people use it in the most outlandish ways to achieve the most outlandish purposes.

And then people attribute meanings to it that make you really wonder...

Where did they learn English?
 
sallylou said:
...TXgolfer, be sure to read about the new DNA tests on Sally Hemmings' ancestors. Turns out that TJ's family tree has more branches than previously acknowledged.
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Do you mean her descendents?
 
sallylou said:
I wish that people would learn the difference between communism, socialism, and facism and their historical contexts. Then again, Texas just removed Thomas Jefferson from the world history books so I'm not expecting much improvement.
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Quick and easy lessons in telling the difference: Cows Explain Politics :)
 
Reba's the correct word usage Nazi now. Can't stand to let even one of my mistakes slide, huh?

The genetic study linked TJ's uncle and SH's son through the Y chromosome. Thus, the test shows that TJ was the father of SH's son with 99.99% accuracy.

Here's a chart that a makes it clear:

frontline: jefferson's blood: mapping jefferson's y chromosome | PBS

I misspelled SH's name. Ya'll can flog me later.
 
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