The "others" who were killed

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The "others" who were killed in the attack on the embassy have names and stories.

Two of the four Americans killed Tuesday after an attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya were former Navy SEALs from San Diego County.

Glen Doherty, 42, of Encinitas, and Tyrone Woods, 41, of Imperial Beach, were working at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi as security and intelligence contractors. Also killed were the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and information officer Sean Smith. Three others were wounded.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Thursday that Doherty and Woods “died helping protect their colleagues.

“Our thoughts, prayers, and deepest gratitude are with their families and friends. Our embassies could not carry on our critical work around the world without the service and sacrifice of brave people like Tyrone and Glen,” she said in a statement.

The two former SEALs settled in San Diego County after initial training in Coronado, where all the elite naval special operators must pass a grueling 21-week test of mental and physical endurance.

Doherty, who grew up in the Boston suburb of Winchester, Mass., was a gregarious outdoorsman and high-octane adventurer, a self-proclaimed “high priest” of “The Cult of Recreationalism,” friends and family said.

The pilot, former ski instructor, surfer and trainer at the CrossFit/SEALFIT gym in Encinitas served nine years as a SEAL before getting out in 2005.

“Glen was a true hero and one of the greatest guys I’ve ever known. You would have liked him,” said Brandon Webb, a former Navy SEAL from San Diego who wrote a book with Doherty called “Navy SEAL Sniper.”

Almost everyone did, according to Doherty’s family and friends. “His way of making everyone around him feel special and loved came from the fact that he genuinely looked up to all his friends, always seeing their greatness in a way they sometimes wished they could see themselves,” his brother, Greg Doherty, of Kensington, said in a statement.

Glen Doherty’s ex-wife, Sonja Johnson, said “People looked up to him. ... They were inspired by him. He was always a leader. He could command attention.” He was also a dependable friend, she added: “He’s the guy you’d call who you knew would help you move, lend a hand or take care of your dog. He would never say no.”

During his military career, Doherty graduated from the 18 Delta Special Forces Combat Medical School and the SEAL sniper course. He responded to the USS Cole attack off the coast of Yemen, participated in the 2003 invasion of Iraq and served a second tour there in 2004.

“He simply believed that the possibility of liberating the country from a tyrant and making democracy possible for the Iraqi people was worth him risking his own life for,” Greg Doherty said.

Glen Doherty’s work as a government contractor took him for months at a time to countries including Lebanon, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The work was an extension of his military service, said one acquaintance who asked not to be named out of respect for the privacy of special operations forces.

“You never take your uniform off. You hang it in the closet. But everything that went along with it is still there. All the training and the dedication you have to your nation. That is what drives these guys,” he said.

Word of the former SEALs’ deaths was a deep blow that spread nationwide in special operations forces circles. Mike Ritland, a friend of Doherty and former Navy SEAL, said in a statement: “The loss of this incredible warrior is one that will forever hurt this nation’s heart. … The brotherhood mourns the loss of one of its very best. Fair winds and following seas brother, we will see you on the other side.”

Woods, a former owner of The Salty Frog bar in Imperial Beach, served more than 20 years as a SEAL and deployed multiple times to Iraq and Afghanistan. He is survived by his wife Dorothy, two teenaged sons, Tyrone Jr. and Hunter, and infant Kai.

His former wife, Patricia Ann So, described him as talented, highly skilled and dedicated. “He was balls to the wall,” she said. “He loved life, loved adrenalin.”

Woods went through Hell Week — the grueling 5½-day make-or-break culmination of initial SEAL training — twice, So said. She was certain that he died doing what he loved to do.

Manuel Santana, a former neighbor, said Woods was a quiet and good man who didn’t go looking for trouble. But “he was tough. He was the type of person you didn’t want to tangle with on a dark street at night,” Santana said.

Before he moved out of the neighborhood a few months ago, Woods used to drink coffee daily when he was in town at an ice cream shop and café called Cow A Bunga. “He was very secretive because of his job, so we never knew what he was doing. All we knew was that he was working to defend his country because he loved it,” said Fabrice Gaunin, one of the owners.

“If there were more people like him, this country would be in much better shape. We need people to keep doing what he was doing. Because he really believed in freedom and he really believed in the U.S.”

Islamist militants are suspected of using a protest over an inflammatory movie as cover for a coordinated assault on the diplomatic post on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, U.S. and Libyan government officials said.

The four-hour assault Tuesday night in Benghazi included rocket-propelled grenade attacks on the consulate and a nearby annex or safe house.

Doherty’s sister, Kate Quigley, told The Boston Globe that she did not believe the attack was a spontaneous protest against the movie clip aired on YouTube that ridiculed the Muslim Prophet Muhammad.

“I never thought he’d be another victim of Sept. 11,” Quigley said. “You have to understand. Glen was highly trained. He was the best of the best. He wouldn’t have gone down for some protest over a movie.”

As the mob of some 200 people threatened to storm the consulate, military and security personnel inside would have been under the operational control of the U.S. State Department and diplomatic staff on hand, said John Valdez, 75, of Oceanside, who served three tours as a Marine security guard protecting U.S. embassy staff abroad before he retired in 1985.

They would be under orders to hold their fire until the ambassador or charge d’affaires gave the command, he said.

“When it comes to the nitty gritty, the ambassador is the one who makes the call,” he said. “Nine times out of 10 they will not tell anybody to fire. You can’t do anything pretty much. Unless it becomes imminent and you are fearing for your life, then you might decide to fire (anyway) and suffer the consequences.”

Those who knew the former SEALs said they had no doubt they went down fighting.

“Don’t cry for Glen, he would not approve. Celebrate a man who lived well and died with a gun is his hands, fighting for those too weak to fight for themselves,” said a friend and former SEAL who identified himself as “SH9.”
Two SEAL vets from SD killed in Libya | UTSanDiego.com
 
...and Sean Smith:

American diplomat Sean Smith, killed in Libya protests, is mourned by his EVE Online gaming community

Sean Smith, one of the U.S. diplomats killed in the violence in Benghazi, was also vital to the diplomatic success of the online gaming community EVE Online, many of whose 400,000 users are mourning him today.

BY ANTHONY BARTKEWICZ / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2012, 1:09 PM

Sean Smith gave his life in the service of American diplomacy, but, strangely, he also spent much of his free time online entangled in intergalactic political intrigue.

Smith, a U.S. Foreign Service Information Management Officer, was killed Tuesday night alongside Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and two other Americans in an assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

As the U.S. mourned the deaths of those who worked toward a freer Libya, a worldwide community came together to remember “Vile Rat,” as Smith was known in EVE Online.

EVE is an intensely complicated sci-fi roleplaying game played by a community of about 400,000 people. It has its own economy, complete with corporate espionage and backroom deals, and a player-elected government that meets in person in Iceland. (The Council of Stellar Management — Smith was a member.)

As tensions mounted over a protest outside the consulate before the attack, Smith was chatting with EVE Online friends and sent the eerie message, “assuming we don't die tonight.”

By Wednesday morning, hundreds of in-game space stations had been renamed in tribute to Vile Rat.

Ned Coker, publicist for developer CCP Games, told the Daily News that Smith was “a true force” in the EVE Online community.

Dr. Erlendur Thorsteinsson, the game’s software director, remembered meeting Smith and his wife Heather several times at player get-togethers and through his work with the Council.

Smith — who also leaves behind two young children, Nathan and Heather — previously served in Baghdad, Pretoria, Montreal and The Hague, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday.

He was an Air Force veteran with 10 years in the Foreign Service who was in Libya for what was supposed to be a brief, temporary mission.

Notice of an EVE Online space station renamed in honor of Sean Smith’s online persona, Vile Rat.

EVE blogger Alex Gianturco wrote a memorial post, remembering past occasions when Smith would duck out of chats due to incoming fire.

“If you play this stupid game, you may not realize it, but you play in a galaxy created in large part by Vile Rat’s talent as a diplomat,” Gianturco wrote. “No one focused as relentlessly on using diplomacy as a strategic tool.”

Another blogger, “Seleene,” knew Smith in person after meeting through EVE, and described him as “a genuinely warm and funny guy.”

And on an official EVE forum, the thread announcing that Smith had been killed swelled to more than 30 pages of memorial messages.

Many players who lauded his in-game diplomacy said they had no idea about his work in the real world.

abartkewicz@nydailynews.com

Read more: American diplomat Sean Smith, killed in Libya protests, is mourned by his EVE Online gaming community - NY Daily News
 
The reception of their bodies at Andrews AFB is being shown live on TV right now. They have an interpreter there. It's very touching.

I've attended similar arrivals, on a smaller local scale, and it's always a very hard time for the families.
 
I saw it. Very painful to watch.
TCS and I have attended a few of those airport arrivals as part of our PGR missions. It is truly hard but it is rewarding. Most touching is during the escort from the airport to the funeral home. People line both sides of the street in honor of the fallen one.

Hardest is watching the families at the casket on the tarmac. Some family members fall apart then. The press that are present don't record those scenes, thank God.

This is the first time I've seen one where there were speeches. I don't really care for that but it's not my call. It's whatever is the family's preference. The ones I attended were all about the fallen warrior and the family. Period.
 
The "others" who were killed in the attack on the embassy have names and stories.

Two SEAL vets from SD killed in Libya | UTSanDiego.com

That's very sad about diplomats got killed in intense attack and Libya seems unstable country right now. Good thing to see Libyan government to condemn the attack but not strong word so enough that I want to see.

...and Sean Smith:

Yup, I heard about EVE Online and they are good MMO game, also available in Windows and Mac OS X. I'm very sad to see veteran gamer got killed in attack. I know most veterans love to play game and I read some gaming magazines about veterans play video game oversea. Thank you to Sean Smith and other other veterans diplomats for serving our country.
 
TCS and I have attended a few of those airport arrivals as part of our PGR missions. It is truly hard but it is rewarding. Most touching is during the escort from the airport to the funeral home. People line both sides of the street in honor of the fallen one.

Hardest is watching the families at the casket on the tarmac. Some family members fall apart then. The press that are present don't record those scenes, thank God.

This is the first time I've seen one where there were speeches. I don't really care for that but it's not my call. It's whatever is the family's preference. The ones I attended were all about the fallen warrior and the family. Period.

Today's arrival was dignified. But I have a personal preference. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should have been the only speaker since the State Department is responsible for embassies. Still, it was very sad.
 
Today's arrival was dignified. But I have a personal preference. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should have been the only speaker since the State Department is responsible for embassies. Still, it was very sad.

who was the other speaker? I don't watch tv so I'm not aware of what's going on in here.
 
who was the other speaker? I don't watch tv so I'm not aware of what's going on in here.

President Obama. It makes for a distracting ceremony. Grieving survivors do not want to hear about what may or may not happen in the middle east or who did what. Doesn't matter who is President at the time. It was good he met with the families prior, but should be sitting with them.
 
Last year we had an Army soldier KIA who grew up here. The memorial service went on for at least 3 hours with about 10 different speakers. Full of local politicians, state congressmen, etc. TV stations, newspaper reporters all over it. It was just a spectacle. Did any of them really care? When we stood at the grave site, not one showed up.

The family interviewed later said they appreciated the Patriot Guard/Police escort through the Air Force base and all of the base personnel (military and civilian) lining both sides of the highway with small flags in their hands, or a small sign, and hand over their heart.
 
TCS and I have attended a few of those airport arrivals as part of our PGR missions. It is truly hard but it is rewarding. Most touching is during the escort from the airport to the funeral home. People line both sides of the street in honor of the fallen one.

Hardest is watching the families at the casket on the tarmac. Some family members fall apart then. The press that are present don't record those scenes, thank God.

This is the first time I've seen one where there were speeches. I don't really care for that but it's not my call. It's whatever is the family's preference. The ones I attended were all about the fallen warrior and the family. Period.

I can't even imagine what that would be like, especially with multiple caskets and families. I won't go into it since this all might be considered "politics" but I was surprised by the speeches as well. I would not want that as a family member....especially not with cameras.
 
Today's arrival was dignified. But I have a personal preference. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should have been the only speaker since the State Department is responsible for embassies. Still, it was very sad.

What bugged me the most was that Hillary thanked so many people for being in attendance before even mentioning the families or the Ambassadors. Perhaps that is proper.... :dunno: but It seemed weird to me. Not political at all, it would bug me no matter who did it.
 
What bugged me the most was that Hillary thanked so many people for being in attendance before even mentioning the families or the Ambassadors. Perhaps that is proper.... :dunno: but It seemed weird to me. Not political at all, it would bug me no matter who did it.
SOP for formal speeches; that's the normal format.
 
Decrying attack, protesters overtake Islamist group's HQ in Benghazi - CNN.com
Benghazi, Libya (CNN) -- Ten days after four Americans were killed in their Libyan city, hundreds marched in Benghazi and took over the headquarters of a radical Islamist group tied to the attack.

Thousands of protesters had taken to the street earlier Friday, loudly declaring that they -- and not those behind last week's deadly attack -- represent the real sentiments of the Libyan people.

"I am sorry, America," one man said. "This is the real Libya."

In the evening, an offshoot of several hundred people then headed toward the headquarters for Ansar al-Sharia, a loosely connected radical Islamist group.

As militia members fled, the protesters torched a vehicle and took over the group's building without firing a single shot. Some of those involved claimed to have freed at least 20 captives held inside, and expressed their intent to assume control over other Ansar al-Sharia buildings.

Army General Naji al-Shuaibi said the citizens, whom he referred to as "revolutionaries of the February 17 uprising," later asked that the Ansar al-Sharia headquarters be handed over to the Libyan army.

"Indeed, we rushed here and we will now take it over," said the general. "There are also other places that we intend to take over (which belong to armed groups) if the revolutionaries and the people allow us to do so."

Mohamed al-Magariaf, president of Libya's General National Congress, thanked the protesters for helping evict "armed groups."

But some of the protesters gathered at locations that house forces loyal to the national authority, he said, including the headquarters of the Rufallah al-Sihati battalion. Gunfire could be heard at the headquarters, but it was not initially clear who was responsible. Al-Magariaf asked the demonstrators to stop their activities and go home.

There was widespread speculation that anti-national authority groups capitalized on the euphoria after the takeover of the Ansar al-Sharia headquarters and pushed protesters to move toward locations under the control of the army and the police force.

On the night of September 11, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens was one of four Americans slain after a group assaulted the U.S. Consulate in the eastern Libyan city.

Seen as the birthplace of the revolution that led to the death of longtime Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Benghazi has in recent months been beset by security issues.

Initial reports indicated that, ahead of the consular attack, Ansar al-Sharia had organized a protest to decry an inflammatory film that mocks the Prophet Mohammed and also protest the United States, where the film was privately produced.

On Thursday, Libyan Prime Minister Mustafa Abushagur said eight detained in connection with that assault include members of Ansar al-Sharia, though he added that not all the attackers came from one specific group.

Responding to the report from Benghazi, U.S. Sen. John McCain applauded the citizens' efforts Friday and said it represented the true, freedom-loving Libya that he and other U.S. officials involved in the country knew.

"Somewhere Chris Stevens is smiling," the Arizona Republican said. "This is what we knew ... about Libya."
 
Let's not forget that there were also people seriously wounded that day, too.

Libya Attack: Wounded U.S. Diplomats Treated In Germany

WASHINGTON -- The three diplomats injured in the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya are being treated at an American military hospital in Germany and one of the two most seriously wounded is expected to leave the intensive care unit on Thursday.

A State Department status report obtained by The Associated Press says the third injured staffer is awake and alert at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center near the Ramstein Air Base, where 33 uninjured consulate personnel are staying and receiving military counseling. All were evacuated from Benghazi early Wednesday and arrived in Germany late that afternoon along with the remains of the four diplomats.

According to the report, the injured staffers "are doing relatively well" and most want to return to Libya.
Libya Attack: Wounded U.S. Diplomats Treated In Germany
 
Thank you for sharing this Reba.


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The reception of their bodies at Andrews AFB is being shown live on TV right now. They have an interpreter there. It's very touching.

I've attended similar arrivals, on a smaller local scale, and it's always a very hard time for the families.

It is a hard time for any famliy that lost a love one.
 
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