Scientists Work on 'Trauma Pill'

I'm kind of skeptical about this because there are two components to anything like PTSD--both a physical and spiritual component. This pill sounds like it won't do anything about the spiritual side. Looking at it as a solution by itself could be very dangerous. IF it could be used in conjunction with traditional counseling I might think differently, but this could lead to trying to take the easy way out instead of dealing with the issue head-on and becoming stronger for it. Is it not our memories that help us to grow?
 
Yeah, RoseImmortal you are right. Most people neglect the spiritual side. They look at everything but not the spiritual side !!!! I also happen to think that medication is not always the answer. The person has to take responsiblity for their actions. Way too many people blame everybody but not take responsiblity for their actions. This makes it harder for the people who geninuely are mentally crazy and have no real understanding of responsiblity to be throw in prison instead of getting the help they need.

The spiritual side is neglected big time till you are in spiritual warfare yourself with nobody who understands you even the pastors , the preachers don't understand you because that is when the real deal comes up.
 
I also wonder what prosecuting attorneys would think about that pill. For example, if a rape victim "forgets" what happened, how can she testify at the rapist's trial?
 
Reba said:
I also wonder what prosecuting attorneys would think about that pill. For example, if a rape victim "forgets" what happened, how can she testify at the rapist's trial?
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You got good point.

It is very common - many nursing homes, a nurse gives her patients a Hal pill that makes their memory erased. Most nurses do not want to hear the complaints from them. They have to lie their patients otherwise they refuse to take it. - i.e. telling them that it is good for their heart, etc. - it's bullshit. That's very unfortunate. I have had visited several nursing homes. There are many pills that will eliminate elders' memory. I will never bring my parents to ANY nursing home, and I know that it will not be that easy.
 
jazzy said:
Will it become addict just alike many pills out there?
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If you had the power to erase any bad thoughts or negative memories, I bet so. People's tolerance for any kind of tension in their lives will plummet to zero.

webexplorer--I've heard of the date rape drug, but this one you mention is a new one on me. Do you have any links explaining further?
 
Rose Immortal said:
If you had the power to erase any bad thoughts or negative memories, I bet so. People's tolerance for any kind of tension in their lives will plummet to zero.

webexplorer--I've heard of the date rape drug, but this one you mention is a new one on me. Do you have any links explaining further?
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Sorry, I don't have more explain about it. You could ask a nurse if you know someone at a hospital - or your neighbor. My neighbor is a retired doctor in a few blocks away, and I don't see him often because he travels a lot.
 
Memories are what make us better people. You just have to learn from them. If you refuse to learn from them, then obviously... you've got a problem.
 
VamPyroX said:
Memories are what make us better people. You just have to learn from them. If you refuse to learn from them, then obviously... you've got a problem.
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Not if they are trauma memories. It will haunt u forever, no matter how much u get some help from professionals. Better for them to forget them and move on with life as normal as possible.
 
Reba said:
I also wonder what prosecuting attorneys would think about that pill. For example, if a rape victim "forgets" what happened, how can she testify at the rapist's trial?
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I doubt that would be an issue. Memories which are formed while an organism is under stress are stronger than memories which are formed under non-stressful conditions. This effect is also linear—the greater the amount of stress, the stronger the memory. This phenomenon was first identified by my father in the early 1970’s, and the results of his findings were published in Acta Psycologica in 1972. PTSD is thought to involve memories which are formed under so much stress that they become ‘super-memories’—memories which are so strong that recalling them recreates the actual event. What this drug does is probably dampen this process to some extent and prevent the formation of these ‘super-memories’. It probably will not prevent the victim from being able to recall the events which occurred—it will only prevent them from reliving them over and over again.

But this is really not my field of expertise, and I’m just making armchair conjectures here. But I intend to investigate this further and follow up on any future developments. I’ll post more when I know more.
 
I find it hard to see how they'll be able to get this drug working without causing some serious side effects.

A drug of this kind is bound to trigger off some serious problems because it would take a powerful drug to make this kind of effect. I just don't think it's a good idea.
 
Banjo said:
I find it hard to see how they'll be able to get this drug working without causing some serious side effects.

A drug of this kind is bound to trigger off some serious problems because it would take a powerful drug to make this kind of effect. I just don't think it's a good idea.
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Taking this drug is like getting the shock treatment. What if this drug wipes out another memory that you didn't want to remove?
 
VamPyroX said:
Taking this drug is like getting the shock treatment. What if this drug wipes out another memory that you didn't want to remove?
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Your fears are largely unfounded. I was going to suggest in my last post that the drug is probably a beta-adrenergic blocking drug like propanolol, but I was trying to keep it short. After I posted I went back and read the entire article from beginning to end. Imagine my surprise when I got to the end of the article and learned that it is propanolol that they’re experimenting with! This is a very common drug. It’s been around for a long time, and it’s used extensively in the treatment of hypertension and performance anxiety (stage fright). I’ve personally taken it many times before public speaking situations (although I’ve found that atenolol works much better). All this drug does is block the release of stress hormones in response to fear. It’s not going to erase anybody’s memory.
 
Still, what about the possibility of addiction to this drug? Anything mind-altering of that nature definitely seems like it could lead there.
 
Again, unlikely. The drug simply doesn’t act on the pleasure center of the brain. If I remember correctly, it doesn’t even cross the blood-brain barrier. I’ve taken it dozens of times, and my mother has been taking a closely related analog of the drug for years. All this drug does is block the hormonal response to an environmental stressor—it blocks the ‘fight-or-flight’ response to a perceived danger.
 
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