Rapture will take you up into heaven????

Beowulf said:
I am not angry, sweetie.
I am just making an observation that Jesus is NOT the only way.
Why does that infuriate you?
I am not infuriated. Not angry at all. :)


I am around innocent children today, and they do not yet know the story of Jesus, and somehow I think it would be evil to take them aside and hiss that they had better believe that Jesus is the only way or they will go to hell.
It would be wrong to growl to them that There is nothing wrong with the rest of all the religions in the world, except that the followers will go to hell unless they give up their religions if Jesus is not the primary focus. That is so full of evil hypocrisy and I just do not have that in me.
I don't believe in "hissing" or "growling" at anyone. The story of Jesus is sweet and precious. Jesus showed His great love for us by dying on the cross.

I think it is wrong NOT to tell children about Jesus. That is the problem. People aren't exposed to the real story of Jesus. It is not fair to keep the story of Jesus a secret.

I tell children that Jesus loves them, and that is why He wants them to trust Him. I don't believe it is right to "threaten" people with hell to save them. I believe, show them God's love, that He wants them to live in Heaven with Him forever.

God is LOVE.
Amen.
 
...saying that Christianity is the ONLY way, everyone else will go to hell are just offensive fighting words and an ancient source of misery to this world that persists to this day in this very forum.

Possibly. OR the statement is true, in which case it is not meant offensively.
Christianity Claims that Jesus is the only way, So either He is, or He is not, there is no inbetween.

I am just making an observation that Jesus is NOT the only way.
Why does that infuriate you?

That's an interesting observation, and it's based on the fact that other religions simply exist?
If I make the observation that Jesus IS the only way to heaven.
Why does that infuriate you?

What if I thought that it was evil that you spent time with children and you neglected to tell them there was a possibility that Jesus could save them and take them to heaven.

I did not say Jesus was arrogant. I am talking about the fact that Christianity is really the minority religion in this world, with practically the biggest concentration in the USA.

.... .... ..... Where did you get that. I have searched stats and I can't find anywhere that would lead me to assume that only America has a large percentage of Christians. I would agree that America has the most, but over 50% or Britian is Christian, Almost 99% of the Philippines is Christian, over 80% of Italy is Christian.... and so on. China has something like 6% but that's like 70 000 000 people.

He was a spriritual Master, but there were others.
Buddha, Krishna, Mohammad, etc.
They are ALL worthy of equal respect


The Problem lies in the fact that you want to give equal validity to all religions. Which is fine, if they do not contradict one another. Unfortunately, the teachings of Christianity stand in direct contradiction of every other religion by claiming Jesus is the way to heaven.

A 1 + 2 = 3
B 1 + 2 = 4

A and B stand in contridiction. Both can not be correct. Either A is right, and B is wrong; or B is right and A is wrong; or both A and B are wrong.

However, you believe that the writings of all religions are fallible. In which case the rest is guess work.

I would NEVER presume to claim that MY belief is the ONLY legitimate one.


However, you presume that the claim of Christianity is wrong, because it claims to be exclusive.

God is God, wherever you may seek Him.

And if God gave only one way to heaven, then that is the way it is, no matter what you choose to believe. If God gave 7 ways to heaven, then there are 7. IF everyone goes to heaven, then God is an evil tyrant who forces people into heaven wether they want to, or not.

If you are right, and all religions are valid for heaven, Then both of us are fine.

If I am right, and only Jesus can get you to heaven, Then I am still fine.

I like my odds.
 
Rapture will happen in any moment.

Just exact as Reba explained.
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All other religion masters are NO equal to Jesus. And yes, they all were buried under the ground still while Jesus was the only one rescurrected.

All other religions other than true christianity is blasmecy. That's all. No confusion needed.

Believe Jesus and read the Bible then it will clear your head and understand why all this was a confusion beforehand.

Faith with Jesus is the ONLY way. Amen.
 
Maybe this is a little silly to put in here, but has anybody read The Last Battle by C.S. Lewis? That book of the Narnia Chronicles deals with the events of Revelation. I'm curious to know what people here think of the scene between Emeth and Aslan...personally I thought it was a stroke of incredible genius.
 
Yes, I always accept Jesus Christ. Because I love him for permanent. I know that Jesus is a great in the world! :applause: Thank the lord for his preaching to us about resurrected as heaven before the death. It's wonderful to have a Bible teaching to the children, because Jesus love them so He will save them for to
heaven, and they will be fine just like me.
 
I do not believe in the Rapture as you would see it in the Left Behind books. Rather, I believe that we will each come before God individually upon our death, and that the new creation we will see is Heaven.
 
Vance said:
But again, if I remember correctly, Christians and other religious groups insist that at 1000 ad and 2000 ad, there will be rapture but nothing happen.

I'm a Christian and this one is new to me, I've never heard this before until you mentioned it, Vance. Care to proove it?
 
Crazymanw00t said:
My opinions


I believe the rapture thing will happens in our lifetime, period. I just have to say this, be ready for his second return. I am really looking forward for his second return.

Crazymanw00t,

The "rapture" and the "second coming" are two different events; they are not the one and the same.
 
DreamSlayer said:
If you are right, and all religions are valid for heaven, Then both of us are fine.

If I am right, and only Jesus can get you to heaven, Then I am still fine.

I like my odds.

Pascal's Wager is fallacious. Not to say that this is an argument against belief; just that this specific argument in favor of belief is invalid.

Although not a Buddhist, I think the
Kalama Sutta has some pretty insightful things to say about our reasons for belief.
 
pek1 said:
I'm a Christian and this one is new to me, I've never heard this before until you mentioned it, Vance. Care to proove it?
Maybe he is referring to these:

Date-Setters of the Past​

Claiming to know the likely date of the rapture is not a new concept. Many believers in the past have conjured up usually complex formulas designed to pin down the day or even hour of the Lord's return for His saints. Obviously, hindsight proves them all to be failures. Probably one of the most notable date setters in the not too distant past was Baptist, William Miller. As Thomas Ice describes,

"Miller...took the 2300 days from Daniel 8:14 when "the holy place will be properly restored" and turned them into years. Miller's starting year was 457 B.C., the time when Nebuchadnezzar profaned the Temple in Jerusalem. When you add them up you arrive at the year 1843 as the time of Christ's second coming. But when that year came and went, like any other year, it was discovered that a year had been left out for the shift from B.C. to A.D., thus 1844 was the true year. However, it too came and went and Miller's scheme became known as the "Great Disappointment."

Those who followed Miller later formed the "Seventh Day Adventist" denomination.

Another notable "seer" was Charles Taze Russell. Although he made some predictions for earlier dates [1874, 1878, 1881, 1910], 1914 was supposed to be the definitive year Christ was to return and "Armageddon" occur. Well, Christ didn't return then and instead World War 1 started. As many of you may know, Russell was founder of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society which later became the Jehovah's Witnesses. In spite of this failure the JW's have not given up on the prediction business. They officially predicted Christ would return in 1918, 1925, 1941, 1975, 1984, and 1994. History has shown their track record is impeccable. They have been consistently wrong without exception.

Neither Miller or Russell believed in the Pre-tribulation rapture. Thus they were not predicting the rapture in itself but the date of the second advent or the coming of the Lord to earth.
http://members.citynet.net/morton/rapture.htm

(BTW, I'm not endorsing this particular author or site; I just found it while researching your question.)
 
I know it all is more than I can comprehend or want to
because in my doing so I find it only upsets me to
wander aimlessly in thought after those things in life
I can find no answers to.

Having been raised in the country I can only say that
Heaven to me is the grandeur of natures beauty, as
for Satan? although a completely seperate topic I can
say that on one occasion I've walked right into a den
of two legged vipers, I've even walked right into hell
fire but neither in the literal sense.

It all depends on how one looks at that written
in the bible, you can try to find answers in the reality of what
is around you or wander after mysterious things for
which you can find no visible answers to and spend the rest
of your life feeling lost within yourself.
 
web730 said:
Rapture will happen in any moment.

Just exact as Reba explained.
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All other religion masters are NO equal to Jesus. And yes, they all were buried under the ground still while Jesus was the only one rescurrected.

All other religions other than true christianity is blasmecy. That's all. No confusion needed.

Believe Jesus and read the Bible then it will clear your head and understand why all this was a confusion beforehand.

Faith with Jesus is the ONLY way. Amen.

Other religions say the same thing about each other and Christianity, that they are wrong. Here's something from the Quran.

3:85 And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

The Quran says that people who don't follow Allah will be losers. That isn't so different from Christianity saying that people who don't follow Jesus being hellbound. The claims that religions make about each other are equally valid because none of them had given evidence that they're the True Religion or one of the True Religions.

The Quran has a lot of verses against disbelievers.
 
RedFox said:
The Quran has a lot of verses against disbelievers.

Does it say anything about blowing up buildings and flying jetliners into them, RedFox? :scatter:
 
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I do support Rapture is because it makes me so exciting to meet Jesus into cloudy while Angels trumps loudly when he calls me by my spiritual phsyical. I do believe God's word speaking the truth in the Bible. He is not liar! He is truth GOD. I follow what God says and know it will come soon some day.

Are you ready to be rapture?? you need to be READY to go through rapture or death? If you are saved, then go with us to see Jesus. If you are not saved, you could not be able with us into the heaven. Important for you to consider about the salvation you could want to discuss with me, then I will be very happy to discuss with you over the salvation plans.

Jesus spoke this verses:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 :deal:

"Marvel not that I said unto three, You must be born again
." John 3:7 :deal:

"For the Lord (Jesus) himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up (rapture) together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord (Jesus) in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thesssalonians 4:16,17 :deal:

I praise the Lord Jesus Christ! Honor Him!

Throwstones for Jesus
 
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