Racial Profiling, Have You Done It?

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when i was coming home on the plane, i noticed an Arab kid, about 23 he was wearing jeans and a yellow hooded sweatshirt. he was holding a little pink bag in his hand. he was walking back and forth, back and forth in a 10 foot area. and he was talking to himself. he wasn't using his voice, but he was mouthing the words. he kept doing this act until we got on the plane, that was about 15 minutes. it made me EXTREMELY nervous, almost to the point where i didn't want to get on the plane.

we landed in Charolette, N.C. and had to get on another plane to come home. i saw the kid again, but this time in a different terminal. he was going to get on a different plane. and again he was mouthing to himself, walking back and forth, back and forth, holding a pink bag.

now i realize he was probably scared like me, and was praying. now, i dont know how i would feel if a white man was walking back and forth talking to himself, i dont know if it would make a difference or not. im not a racist, i have black friends, white friends, cuban friends. no i dont have any arab friends, but thats because i never really met an arab kid.
i hate to say it, but i racial profiled that kid. and i do feel awful. i thought i was accepting of all races, but that kid scared the shit out of me.

i know that if he was just sitting down like everyone else it wouldn't have been a problem. but the fact that he just kept walking back and forth, back and forth, back and forth for 15 to 20 minutes it started to freak the hell out of me.

what do u guys think about this?








by the way, mods, u can move this thread if u need to.
 
Everyone does racial profiling. Sometimes, it's not intentional.

Bill Cosby once said something about blacks being lazy and being at fault for the racial profiling that others have on them.
 
VamPyroX said:
Everyone does racial profiling. Sometimes, it's not intentional.

Bill Cosby once said something about blacks being lazy and being at fault for the racial profiling that others have on them.
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Bill Cosby has said a lot of things that make no sense to me.
 
Hmm. I do discriminate against hearies or rich people (one guy irriated me by saying that he is not RICH but of "upper-middle-class"... and his father made like 200K a year... tell me that is not RICH.)

But when it comes to races, I never made such racist profiling. I grew up with everybdoy. I know somebody from everywhere. Russia, India, Cambodia, Pakistan, Tawian, Estonia, Czech, et cetera... so I never feel biased in judgement because I know everybody is an individual and their nationality doesn't determine it. I only said one racist slur in my entire life, and it was only to teach a lesson to a person who kept calling me "whitey honky"... and he got mad at me after I uttered the n word... I told him: "What you felt is how I feel when you kept calling me honky... I don't have any KKK blood in my family and I am the first American in my war-torn family so how the hell can you say that you can call me racist names and I cannot call you racist names jsut because your people suffered? NOBODY should call eachother any racist names at all."

I do judge people based on their religion background... (biting her nails) I try to not do it to give everybody a second chance but sometime when you met one too many that happened to share the same religion, you start to apply your bias judgement the second the person tells you their religion.
 
gnarlydorkette said:
Hmm. I do discriminate against hearies or rich people (one guy irriated me by saying that he is not RICH but of "upper-middle-class"... and his father made like 200K a year... tell me that is not RICH.)

...I do judge people based on their religion background...
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Just curious, but how so? In what ways do you discrimnate against them?

In my response to the topic. We live in a racist and classist society. This is not surprising at all. Racial profiling has been in existance since the very first inter-mingling of races. I've seen many studies showing patterns of raciel profiling of blacks and capital punishment, in black males are 6 times more likely to be prosecuted and recieve the death penalty than a white person.
 
Pacing back and forth while under stress is a very common habit amoung men of Middle Eastern descent. Very often, they will also have their hands clasped behind their backs, with their head down. I'm sure it was nothing to be concerned about, but your reaction was very human. We live in perilous times.
 
AJ said:
...what do u guys think about this?
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I think that was a reasonable reaction. That guy actually fit the description and behavior of one of the London bus bombers. One of the witnesses described that same kind of scenario on the bus right before it blew up.
 
Charlotte, NC?

dude we've should hang out! lol

(...of course that's where I live)
 
AJ said:
when i was coming home on the plane, i noticed an Arab kid, about 23 he was wearing jeans and a yellow hooded sweatshirt. he was holding a little pink bag in his hand. he was walking back and forth, back and forth in a 10 foot area. and he was talking to himself. he wasn't using his voice, but he was mouthing the words. he kept doing this act until we got on the plane, that was about 15 minutes. it made me EXTREMELY nervous, almost to the point where i didn't want to get on the plane.

we landed in Charolette, N.C. and had to get on another plane to come home. i saw the kid again, but this time in a different terminal. he was going to get on a different plane. and again he was mouthing to himself, walking back and forth, back and forth, holding a pink bag.

now i realize he was probably scared like me, and was praying. now, i dont know how i would feel if a white man was walking back and forth talking to himself, i dont know if it would make a difference or not. im not a racist, i have black friends, white friends, cuban friends. no i dont have any arab friends, but thats because i never really met an arab kid.
i hate to say it, but i racial profiled that kid. and i do feel awful. i thought i was accepting of all races, but that kid scared the shit out of me.

i know that if he was just sitting down like everyone else it wouldn't have been a problem. but the fact that he just kept walking back and forth, back and forth, back and forth for 15 to 20 minutes it started to freak the hell out of me.

what do u guys think about this?








by the way, mods, u can move this thread if u need to.
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sounds like he has an continuous obsession disorder or something...

either way, that guy must be a freak. :squint:
 
Steel said:
sounds like he has an continuous obsession disorder or something...

either way, that guy must be a freak. :squint:
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Do you mean obsessive compulsive disorder?
 
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Hmm. I do discriminate against hearies or rich people (one guy irriated me by saying that he is not RICH but of "upper-middle-class"... and his father made like 200K a year... tell me that is not RICH.)
...I do judge people based on their religion background...

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Just curious, but how so? In what ways do you discrimnate against them?
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I always assumed that all hearies are not deaf-culturally aware and that I had to be careful about what I say to them or sign to them slowly. I still encounter hearies who scrowl at me as if I am crazy for asking for paper and pen... I still sign slow to hearies that I know are taking ASL classes. I feel BAD for doing this to the ASL students and am aware that they need to be accustomed to see ASL at a faster pace or they will be spoiled by slow-signers like me. My husband, an ASL teacher, scolded at me for being a "baby-signer" to his students. So you can say that I am scolded at the 80% hearing population who are "hearie-dumb". (The remains of 20% are CODAs, fluent ASL-signer hearies, deaf-aware hearies, et cetera whom I respect.... again those statistics are figurative, not to take literally) But I don't hate all of them. I do have some hearie friends who I use ASL with but still, I carry that little prejudice assuming that all hearies are narrow-minded when it comes to a deaf person on their turf. I guess you can say this is my defense mechanism against the hearies who "try" to get know me. Like I will think: what are they out to get from me? to make fun of me? to learn cuss words? just to have me to sign their homework to verify that they did HANGOUT with a deaf when they just smiled and stared at me the entire time? So... yeah. That is my prejudice with the hearing population. Sad, I know but I have been working on it! Back in the highschool, I would give a hearie classmate an evil eye for ATTEMPTING to "baby-sign" with me... now I am more patient with hearie classmates who are trying to sign with me. Time changes everybody!

And as for rich people-- I am speaking of the CHILDREN of rich parents-- they have no work ethnics and money is the problem-solvent for them, even for love. "I can take her for romantic dinners and take her on a cruise to make her happy!" No, you cannot pay for her happiness. They whine about not able to afford a prada because they are students now and their parents won't give them any more raises on their allowances... well, f*ck, don't buy it then! They don't know how to work because of their luxuries to have a maid/nanny to clean up after them. I do more laundry and house-cleaning jobs in a month than my 25-yr-old rich friend does in a lifetime!
One of my "rich friends" complained that I always turned him down for a meal out everyday. WTF, I am a college student, how the hell can I afford a $6+ meal everyday when I can use the six dollars efficently for grocery that will last me a week?
So that is it. I got problems with spoiled rich kids. I haven't met one "upper-middle-class" kid who is grateful for what s/he has and use his/her funds wisely. I am still waiting for that person to come by and prove me wrong.

And as for religion discrimination-- I would rather not to state how I "profile" them because I may offend many people here, possibly you. You can say that I even can offend 'Gatsu-- (gasp) yes, that is bad. You all know that 'Gatsu is open-minded and we did discuss about religion and he understood where I come from so he didn't take offense but we did discuss a LOT...
I don't display my "judgments" in the most obvious forms toward to the religious folks but I cannot deny that deep in my mind, I am thinking the most biased thoughts just because of a religion.
You want the truth, I am tellin' you but I refuse to state how biased I am. I am trying to overcome this by being open-minded and learn about all religions. I do not utter my biased thoughts because I KNOW that I am in no position to say it. I know I am wrong for thinking like this. I feel that by correcting myself, I am improving by not assuming my typical prejudice on anybody and thus I don't feel I need to state my biased thoughts because it will make me taking two steps backward with my efforts to improve myself.
:ily: Hope you understand!
 
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did I ask for an essay? silly me, my bad

gnarlydorkette said:
I always assumed that all hearies are not deaf-culturally aware and that I had to be careful about what I say to them or sign to them slowly. I still encounter hearies who scrowl at me as if I am crazy for asking for paper and pen... I still sign slow to hearies that I know are taking ASL classes. I feel BAD for doing this to the ASL students and am aware that they need to be accustomed to see ASL at a faster pace or they will be spoiled by slow-signers like me. My husband, an ASL teacher, scolded at me for being a "baby-signer" to his students. So you can say that I am scolded at the 80% hearing population who are "hearie-dumb". (The remains of 20% are CODAs, fluent ASL-signer hearies, deaf-aware hearies, et cetera whom I respect.... again those statistics are figurative, not to take literally) But I don't hate all of them. I do have some hearie friends who I use ASL with but still, I carry that little prejudice assuming that all hearies are narrow-minded when it comes to a deaf person on their turf. I guess you can say this is my defense mechanism against the hearies who "try" to get know me. Like I will think: what are they out to get from me? to make fun of me? to learn cuss words? just to have me to sign their homework to verify that they did HANGOUT with a deaf when they just smiled and stared at me the entire time? So... yeah. That is my prejudice with the hearing population. Sad, I know but I have been working on it! Back in the highschool, I would give a hearie classmate an evil eye for ATTEMPTING to "baby-sign" with me... now I am more patient with hearie classmates who are trying to sign with me. Time changes everybody!
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Perfectly understandable. You are correct about your conviction that the majority of hearing people are ignorant to deaf culture, and do not understand. Even ASL students can be this way. Because empathy is not a common trait among human beings, regardless of hearing or deaf. Now, how you treat them should depend on how you expect to be treated back. If you were attempting to lip read them, would you want them to speak more slowly and enunciate more?

And as for rich people-- I am speaking of the CHILDREN of rich parents-- they have no work ethnics and money is the problem-solvent for them, even for love. "I can take her for romantic dinners and take her on a cruise to make her happy!" No, you cannot pay for her happiness. They whine about not able to afford a prada because they are students now and their parents won't give them any more raises on their allowances... well, f*ck, don't buy it then! They don't know how to work because of their luxuries to have a maid/nanny to clean up after them. I do more laundry and house-cleaning jobs in a month than my 25-yr-old rich friend does in a lifetime!
One of my "rich friends" complained that I always turned him down for a meal out everyday. WTF, I am a college student, how the hell can I afford a $6+ meal everyday when I can use the six dollars efficently for grocery that will last me a week?
So that is it. I got problems with spoiled rich kids. I haven't met one "upper-middle-class" kid who is grateful for what s/he has and use his/her funds wisely. I am still waiting for that person to come by and prove me wrong.
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I agree with you on this. I went to high school in a very nice area of town was forced to socialize with this jaded group of wasted youth. I can't count how many times I've heard about teenagers from my high school crashing their car after drinking, and two weeks later they have a new Mustang or Eclipse. I'm very skeptical of the whole "upper-middle class" youth, as well, but I'm not quick to display it. I try to remain understand that these people are inferior to me and to try and put together a coherent thought gives them a headache that is on par with the hangover that AJ will be feeling tomorrow. I'm pissed at this group. Not because I'm jealous of all that they have, but because they are completely devoid of any idea of what gratitude is.

And as for religion discrimination-- I would rather not to state how I "profile" them because I may offend many people here, possibly you. You can say that I even can offend 'Gatsu-- (gasp) yes, that is bad. You all know that 'Gatsu is open-minded and we did discuss about religion and he understood where I come from so he didn't take offense but we did discuss a LOT...
I don't display my "judgments" in the most obvious forms toward to the religious folks but I cannot deny that deep in my mind, I am thinking the most biased thoughts just because of a religion.
You want the truth, I am tellin' you but I refuse to state how biased I am. I am trying to overcome this by being open-minded and learn about all religions. I do not utter my biased thoughts because I KNOW that I am in no position to say it. I know I am wrong for thinking like this. I feel that by correcting myself, I am improving by not assuming my typical prejudice on anybody and thus I don't feel I need to state my biased thoughts because it will make me taking two steps backward with my efforts to improve myself.
:ily: Hope you understand!
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I'm confused by your response. You don't wish to state why because you feel it indulges this prejudice? Because you have differing opinions? If you don't want to publicly state it, would you mind discussing it in private, or is it something personal you don't wish to share at all?

I apologize for the scatterbrained response. Its late. Reading essays make me tired. I'm going to beddddddddddzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
 
race?

what is really mean race?

I thought there are only 3.

Caucasian
Blacks
and Orientals.

So are Arab people white?

So that mean AJ hates his own white race?
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
what is really mean race?

I thought there are only 3.

Caucasian
Blacks
and Orientals.

So are Arab people white?

So that mean AJ hates his own white race?
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You can't be serious. :roll:
 
cental34 said:
You can't be serious. :roll:
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Well, there is no indicator on such surveys where you have to list your race as a "Middle-Eastern"... I know plenty of Indians and Arabic deaf people who had to bubble in "Causasian" in their surveys, their SATs, and their school applications just becase there is no bubble for "Middle-Eastern" or "Indian" even though the "Pacific Islanders" are included on the list...
Weird, isn't it?

On other note-- I want to clear up any confusion: there is only one race: Human.

Have you been disciminated because you are a human? My cat hates me sometime just because I don't cough out hairballs and claw my own couch.

Down with Human Hatred!
 
AJ, didja look to see if he was wearing tennis shoes? :thumb:
 
cental34 said:
Bill Cosby has said a lot of things that make no sense to me.
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He mentioned something about why uneducated blacks should shut up about the discrimination crap because it's their own fault that people don't treat them right. He was referring to racial profiling at public schools. A lot of schools give these black students a hard time. In reality, it's these black students that's giving the schools a hard time and doing wrong themselves that makes the school punish them. For instance, in a classroom of 30 students... 10 are black and 20 are white. All 10 black students are members of a gang who love to cause trouble. They never study. They never do anything. When they take a test and fail, they cry... "discrimination!" The parents and school board begin to question the teaching methods of the teacher and all hell breaks loose. Seriously, those who fails deserved to fail. They're too obsessed with being "cool" and "bust'n caps in da azzes", while the serious students are studying.
 
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