Qaeda group warns US of 'unbearable hell' after Bush re-election

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DUBAI (AFP) - A group linked to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s Al-Qaeda network threatened the United States with reprisals after the re-election of President George W. Bush (news - web sites), warning of "unbearable hell," in a website statement.

"The coming days will show you that the one you preferred will lead you to an unbearable hell," said the group calling itself the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades after the Al-Qaeda military chief killed in Afghanistan (news - web sites) in October 2001.

In Washington, a US official said Friday that the message appeared to be authentic.

He noted that the Abu Hafs Brigades, which has also claimed responsibility for the deadly Madrid train bombings in March, had previously used the website where the latest message was posted.

More ... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...fp/20041105/wl_afp/us_bush_qaeda_041105164333


We, democrats already know that what will happen. Only time will tell.
 
Well, I hope that it does happen. It will teach us a lesson to back off. ;)
 
I don't want to misquote or misinterpret anyone, so let me ask.

Are you guys saying that you hope terrorists attack our country and kill Americans?
 
Thats the impression I get, although I would hope that any plans to cause harm would be stopped in their tracks (with proof that they were going to happen). To the Bush bashers on the board, do you honestly believe that if Kerry would have been elected, Al-Qaeda would just disappear and all of a sudden be friendly with U.S. and that all terror activities would suddenly cease?
 
Taylor said:
Thats the impression I get, although I would hope that any plans to cause harm would be stopped in their tracks (with proof that they were going to happen). To the Bush bashers on the board, do you honestly believe that if Kerry would have been elected, Al-Qaeda would just disappear and all of a sudden be friendly with U.S. and that all terror activities would suddenly cease?
No, you and Reba were just misinterpreted my (or our) comment. I was saying that it will be more likely occur if Bush re-elected. I mean, that is totally predictable. And don't ever say that we want americans to be hurt to make a point. I don't know about others but I know I will never stoop myself to certain party's level. I truly hope that you get that message crystal clear.

If Kerry wins, they would not just disappear but will be diminishing for sure. Will there some kind of terrorist attack? I doubt it. Keep in mind that 80% of the world hate Bush and his foreign policy. Millions and millions of different countries rallied against Bush. That's first history. You definitely have to see what happen in Europe when Bush visited there... That's why he stopped visiting there ever since. So it means that countries are more willing to work with Kerry to put a cap on terrorists than they will do with Bush. DNC recieved millions and millions of letters from different countries that they are angry about Bush re-elected and gave us their supports.

That says all. There will be more protesters again in different countries to try and force their governments to pull their soldiers out of Iraq (which country does NOT have WMDs). It was successful in the past so therefore they will do that again. After all, governments are suppose to be serve people, not people to be serve government.

Smart foreigners. France is even better... Bushies lately kept bashing frenchies for not supporting Bush and his foreign policy. That is indeed sad because they helped us to be liberated from England's control.

Many generals/ex-generals in USA warned in few articles that Bush's foreign policy will be more likely lead to World War III. I am trying to find a well-known quote or couldn't remember exactly what it said however it was saying that do not mess or get involved with middle east problems.
 
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Magatsu,
While I'm a Bush supporter, I can't say that that I disagree with you. You bring up some good points in your post (and other posts as well). I do disagree with a lot of Bush's foreign policy. Other 'Bushies' on this board will probably agree that there are some domestic or foreign policies that are bad. It can be said about any president or politician. There are also some good points brought up by Kerry during his campaign.

Anyhow, a couple of things to note about George Bush.

Terrorism was here before President Bush came into office. I've heard people say that Bill Clintons foreign policy was remarkable. If that is the case, why were there terrorist attacks against the U.S. I consider it silly to say that George Bush is the root behind it all.

The best analogy I can think of is a bees nest in your back yard in a tree. If you leave the bees nest alone, chances are they will leave you alone except for the occasional bee sting. But what happens when you get stung a few times and you can no longer enter your back yard? Bees are doing what they do, they see you as a threat and will sting you until you are completely gone (in the case of terrorism, until you are wiped off the face of the earth).
At some point, you are going to have to call an exterminator to go in and wipe the problem once and for all. I believe terrorism is the same way. We can give in to their demands and hope they don't attack us. That is what terrorism is all about.

Another example would be what happens to good citizens in the US who live in bad neighborhoods. They fear leaving their house because they don't want to give into demands and threats from thugs.

Changing the US foreign policy will do nothing stop terrorism against the US and its citizens. If Israel laid down its arms, do you think the Palestine would do the same? Do you think that if the US pulled its military out of every country, it would make the world a safer place?

These are the things that I believe in, and not some media hype. I personally believe that the world is a better place without Saddam Hussein. I honestly believe that there were in fact WMD in Iraq. I can also show you the pictures of children laying in the streets who were victims of these WMD that 'don't exist'. I will spare this board as those pics are rather graphic, but I can tell you that they were taken after the first gulf war while the so called UN sanctions were in place. I personally believe that the failure was with the United Nations and not the United States.

There are stories floating around from families of service members who disagree with the war in Iraq. War is never popular, and it shouldn't be. I have a lot of dealings with military personnel, and most will say the same thing. They know why we are in Afghanistan and why we are in Iraq. Perhaps they have been brainwashed by the George Bush, but most tell me they believe they are doing the right thing.

For those that say the US should mind its own business and stay out of the middle east, I am certainly glad you are not my neighbors. It would not be your business if someone were breaking into my house and causing me and my family harm, but would you call the police? Would you make an effort to assist me and my family if I were to be injured by an intruder. I certainly hope you would not close your blinds and say 'This is not my problem'. Why is this 'local' situation any different from a global situation. Should we assist those that need it or should we turn our backs to them and say 'It isn't our problem'.

This is one of the many reasons I support George Bush. I believe he is seeing the big picture and is thinking long term. What happens in the middle east today will effect our children and our childrens children. We can leave the world behind and say screw them and not worry about what happens in the middle east. Lets let the dictators do whatever is they want to do, and kill whoever they want to. Lets let Palistine kill off every jew, after all, it isn't are problem, right? Lets turn our backs on the world. Then fast forward to 50 or 100 years from now and tell me what the world will be like.


My opinions will probably not be very popular, as I tend to see more Kerry fans here than 'Bushies'. I may be very wrong about some of the things above. My opinions are not set in concrete either. While I'm a registered republican, had Kerry given any indication of what he was going to do and I thought it was the right thing, I certainly would have voted for him. The problem I had with Kerry is that I could never get a clear answer as to what he was aiming for. I have recorded videos of him (prior to the war) that going into Iraq would be a good thing and he supported the ouster of Saddam Hussein. Now he feels differently and that the Iraq war was a disaster caused by George Bush.

He wants every single american to have government paid healthcare. Thats good in theory and I would love free healthcare, but when it came time to discuss how that would be paid for, there was no sensible answer. He would pay for everyone to have healthcare, but couldn't raise the revenue to pay for it. Those are just a few examples of why I could not vote for Kerry in good faith. Even if I disagree with some of George Bush' policies, at least I had an indication of what direction he was heading in, and I agree with more policies than I'm against.

Anyhow, I'm finished my rant and I know you'll disagree. I just ask that my opinion is respected and I promise to do the same in return. Its 4:30 am here and I guess I'm in one of those late night moods ;)
 
I must admit that I found yours the most amazing post to read for a while. Concerning about WMDs and 9/11 issue, we will debate on that all day, week, month and year yet still will not reach the conclusion. The problem is that we obtain different informations from different sources. Sure, UN has its own problems (included corruption) but it does not mean that USA/White House does not. They do have corruption issues... heck, every government does.

I can go on and on about non-existence of WMDs but as I believe that you will agree to disagree with me then lay out your 'evidences' to counter mine then I have to counter back with another evidences.

In fact, I voted against Bush because of Iraq? No, I voted against Bush because of environment, civil rights and economy. There is a pattern in 'Bush family'... example: while under Sr. Bush, the economy plummeted down pretty fast and when Bill Clinton took over the White House and he pulled it up and becomes surplus. W. Bush took over and the economy plummented down again. That is pretty annoying, well to me.

Actually I can go on and on about these but I am more than sure that you will agree to disagree with me. So let's not waste our energy on these common issues but I do have one thing that I lately feel uneasy about Bushies. Well, two things: hatred and fear. Seem that they lately have been feeding on these emotions. I don't know when, how and why.

I am going to create a separate topic for that: http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?p=230895#post230895

I hope that you are able to answer that one. I was surprised that I actually found myself enjoy reading your post. But of course I disagree with your points however I do agree with you on some points. So thanks ;)
 
LOL, I have been enjoying your posts as well. The way I look at it, both sides on this board could throw rocks at each other and call each other names and just get pissed at each other. The other option is to have an adult conversation regarding issues that have an effect on our lives and the world. The members of this board are very strong about their convictions, however everyone seems very well educated. It really makes no difference whether we agree/disagree (or agree to disagree). What matters is that there are reasons for us to feel the way we do. You can give me 100 reasons why Republicans can rot in hell with George Bush in the lead, and I can give you 101 ;) reasons why Democrats can do the same.
My fear is boring with folks here with this type of discussion, and coming across as trying to put people in their place. I'm a new member here and do not want to wear out my welcome with discussions (or arguments) about politics.
 
Yeah, I soon will have to slow down with discussions about politics. i mean, politic is very heated issue around here, well, practically everywhere nowaday.

However one thing that I would like you to be aware that I wouldn't want any republicans to be rot in hell with Bush. Yes, I don't think Bush deserve to be a president, never did but want to bomb you & Bush into oblivion? No. I know you are joking (well, I assume...) but want to clear up one thing about that.
 
However one thing that I would like you to be aware that I wouldn't want any republicans to be rot in hell with Bush. Yes, I don't think Bush deserve to be a president, never did but want to bomb you & Bush into oblivion? No. I know you are joking (well, I assume...) but want to clear up one thing about that.

I should have worded things a little differently as it was a figure of speech. For every 100 items you can find in the news about how bad Republicans are, I can find 101 ;) items that show Democrats are equally as bad
 
Magatsu said:
No, you and Reba were just misinterpreted my (or our) comment. I was saying that it will be more likely occur if Bush re-elected. I mean, that is totally predictable. And don't ever say that we want americans to be hurt to make a point.
I didn't say that to make a point. I was asking to make sure that I understood correctly. I was very shocked at those statements, and I wanted to be sure that I didn't misinterpret.

Keep in mind that 80% of the world hate Bush and his foreign policy.
I really doubt that the entire world population has been surveyed yet. I know that no one has called my house.

Millions and millions of different countries rallied against Bush.
The entire planet Earth doesn't even have a million countries. You really exagerate.

That is indeed sad because they helped us to be liberated from England's control.
...and we freed them from Germany's control twice in the last century. I think enough American blood repaid our debt to Lafayette.
 
Taylor said:
Magatsu,
While I'm a Bush supporter, I can't say that that I disagree with you. You bring up some good points in your post (and other posts as well). I do disagree with a lot of Bush's foreign policy. Other 'Bushies' on this board will probably agree that there are some domestic or foreign policies that are bad. It can be said about any president or politician. There are also some good points brought up by Kerry during his campaign....
Very good points and perspective.
 
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