Pro-life advocate murdered in Michigan

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Which is a typical, non-answer response......

And yet people can't say the two simple words, "human beings" and attach it even to a 40 weeks old unborn "fetus"? I can't blame people for that.

They rather free themselves of that conscious and so these "fetuses" can be indiscriminately and wantonly destroyed, all for selfish reasons.
 
jillio said:
I refuse to discuss medical terminology with one who has absolutely no understanding of the language they are using. It is like engaging in battle with an unarmed opponent. You are at a decided disadvantage, and I have no desire to completely humiliate you.
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Ah, the old bob and weave response. Dodge here and there with non-answers and acts of puerile indignation.

Must be nice to be free of that conscious.
 
kokonut said:
Ah, the old bob and weave response. Dodge here and there with non-answers and acts of puerile indignation.

Must be nice to be free of that conscious.
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Nope, not a bob and weave at all. Just recognition of a lost cause. Can't have a reasonable discussion of medical terminology with someone using a Little Tykes doctors kit.
 
souggy said:
If you are going to debate on word usage, please look up the history of the word.

Fetus has been a part of the English lexicon since the 1300s, which is incidentally around the same time when Christianity (which brought Latin with them) reached Britain.
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Just as the word "subhuman" was introduced into the English language in 1785. You see, words and symbolism has subjective meaning. Words and Symbolism is a powerful tool to indoctrinate a society as a whole.

On one hand, in terms of religion (and making this short of breaking the forum rule, but instead, making a subjective point) you see words like "cross" and a symbolism forms in your mind of the cross. It bombards not just the mind, but also the conscience.

Then on the other hand, you have words like "evolution" and "atheism" It evokes the mind and conscience into believing something other than a word like "Creation" and "Deity"

Words has a powerful influence to change society, for better or for worse.

The medical community came up with the word "fetus" because at the time, they didn't believe that a unborn child is considered a "baby". Just as you said, around the year 1300. Other medical words soon followed throughout those years and today you have a mass medical vocabulary to describe not only about an unborn child, but they also named every various stages of life.

Words can bring about healing, but it can also bring about destruction.

Take for example of the indoctrination of "abortion" and it's influences, it has taught society that life has no value to some people. Take teenagers and young adults giving birth to babies and dumping them in trash cans. Just look up the news. You can also count the numbers of unborn child killed in the abortion mills, 40 million to be exact. If that's not genocide, then what is it?

Take the words "assisted suicide", people who are terminally ill are indoctrinated that even if while they are in so much pain, the indoctrination instilled into the mind of the patient believes there is no value in continuing life, irregardless of how what one might feel about the patient, whether it be from a family member or a close friend, that it's ok to kill themselves. It won't matter if the family member or friend agrees with it or not.

Words can either teach us to care or become selfish.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
Just as the word "subhuman" was introduced into the English language in 1785. You see, words and symbolism has subjective meaning. Words and Symbolism is a powerful tool to indoctrinate a society as a whole.

On one hand, in terms of religion (and making this short of breaking the forum rule, but instead, making a subjective point) you see words like "cross" and a symbolism forms in your mind of the cross. It bombards not just the mind, but also the conscience.

Then on the other hand, you have words like "evolution" and "atheism" It evokes the mind and conscience into believing something other than a word like "Creation" and "Deity"

Words has a powerful influence to change society, for better or for worse.

The medical community came up with the word "fetus" because at the time, they didn't believe that a unborn child is considered a "baby". Just as you said, around the year 1300. Other medical words soon followed throughout those years and today you have a mass medical vocabulary to describe not only about an unborn child, but they also named every various stages of life.

Words can bring about healing, but it can also bring about destruction.

Take for example of the indoctrination of "abortion" and it's influences, it has taught society that life has no value to some people. Take teenagers and young adults giving birth to babies and dumping them in trash cans. Just look up the news.

Take the words "assisted suicide", people who are terminally ill are indoctrinated that even if while they are in so much pain, the indoctrination instilled into the mind of the patient believes there is no value in continuing life, irregardless of how what one might feel about the patient, whether it be from a family member or a close friend, that it's ok to kill themselves. It won't matter if the family member or friend agrees with it or not.

Words can either teach us to care or become selfish.

Yiz
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Here is where you are making your grave error: baby is not a medical term, either. That would be neo-nate and past the neonatal stage, infant.

Baby is nothing more than popularized, romanticized slang.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with symbolic interaction, except with those that are attempting to distort reality and accuracy.
 
jillio said:
Nope, not a bob and weave at all. Just recognition of a lost cause. Can't have a reasonable discussion of medical terminology with someone using a Little Tykes doctors kit.
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Medical fact...DNA is still the same. A human being. The only difference is the stage of development and to the point of viability.
 
kokonut said:
Medical fact...DNA is still the same. A human being. The only difference is the stage of development and to the point of viability.
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Presence of DNA does not equate to being a human. And presence of DNA does not equate to viable human being. I thought you said you were a scientist. Spit contains human DNA. It doesn't make spit a human.
 
jillio said:
Presence of DNA does not equate to being a human. And presence of DNA does not equate to viable human being. I thought you said you were a scientist. Spit contains human DNA. It doesn't make spit a human.
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Then we can go back to the old argument that when a man ejaculates on his bed, he is murdering people because his sperm contains DNA. :lol:
 
shel90 said:
Then we can go back to the old argument that when a man ejaculates on his bed, he is murdering people because his sperm contains DNA. :lol:
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Yep! And flushing the toilet is murdering people because that urine contains human DNA.
 
yizuman said:
Just as the word "subhuman" was introduced into the English language in 1785.
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1785. That timeframe is finicky. That would be around the time when people started questioning what it means to be a "free man" and "equal rights."
 
I just realized you all have gone off-topic. :)

Back to the news about the murder of TWO people, not just one anti-abortion advocate.
 
I do wonder why they are protesting across from high school?
 
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