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kokonut said:
A "fetus" is described as being 8 weeks on out.

Main Entry: fe·tus
Pronunciation: \ˈfē-təs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful — more at feminine
Date: 14th century
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth.
fetus - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

A big difference in what "fetus" looks like at 8 weeks to that of 38,39, 40 weeks which looks no different from a new born baby. Yiz is right. Saying "fetus" conjurs up a blob but not that of a human being at 12, 24, or 36 weeks old in the womb.

YouTube - Development of Fetus
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Stop cutting and pasting from medical dictionaries and posting photo shopped videos without transcripts. You've already hung yourself. Don't make it worse.:laugh2:
 
souggy said:
If you are going to debate on word usage, please look up the history of the word.

Fetus has been a part of the English lexicon since the 1300s, which is incidentally around the same time when Christianity (which brought Latin with them) reached Britain.
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I thought the Romans introduced Christianity to Britain sometimes in the 2nd or 3rd century..?
 
souggy said:
Did you watch the video? No verbal audio at all.
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Didn't need to. I've seen these productions a thousand times. The anti-choice people always use them in an attempt to prey on the uninformed's emotions because they can't support their argument with scientific and medical evidence.
 
I don't see pregnant women beaming proudly saying "Here, feel that? That's my fetus. That's your fetus brother kicking in there!" But you certainly hear them say, "Here, feel that? That's my baby! That's your baby brother kicking in there!"
 
jillio said:
Stop cutting and pasting from medical dictionaries and posting photo shopped videos without transcripts. You've already hung yourself. Don't make it worse.:laugh2:
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It came with subtitles or annotations. I didn't even listen to it but watched it w/o sound. The pertinent information is the descriptions of the growth over time.
 
kokonut said:
I don't see pregnant women beaming proudly saying "Here, feel that? That's my fetus. That's your fetus brother kicking in there!" But you certainly hear them say, "Here, feel that? That's my baby! That's your baby brother kicking in there!"
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*heavy sigh*

You have no idea what you are talking about...

Use common sense, please!!!
 
kokonut said:
I don't see pregnant women beaming proudly saying "Here, feel that? That's my fetus. That's your fetus brother kicking in there!" But you certainly hear them say, "Here, feel that? That's my baby! That's your baby brother kicking in there!"
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Now you really are grasping at straws. I don't hear many women say they have had a colesytectomy, either. They say, "I had my gall bladder taken out."

That is why you, as a layman, shouldn't attempt to use medical terminology, either. You misuse it and distort it because you have neither the education nor the ability to understand it.
 
Barbaro said:
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I thought the Romans introduced Christianity to Britain sometimes in the 2nd or 3rd century..?
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Urgh.

I got my English linguistics history all mixed up. You're right. I keep forgetting Latin was introduced to the English about two or three times in the past. One with Christianity, the other with the Renaissance... and the Scientific Revolution.

Referred to the wrong time-era-- should had been the Renaissance. Good job on catching that slip-up.
 
jillio said:
Didn't need to. I've seen these productions a thousand times. The anti-choice people always use them in an attempt to prey on the uninformed's emotions because they can't support their argument with scientific and medical evidence.
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Can't say the two simple words?? "Human being"...

Yeah, don't get too attached to blobs of fetuses, even at 40 weeks.
 
kokonut said:
Can't say the two simple words?? "Human being"...

Yeah, don't get too attached to blobs of fetuses, even at 40 weeks.
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You seriously need to get a grip. You are right on the edge of loosing it completely.:laugh2: Can you count? 40 weeks is not the first trimester.
 
jillio said:
Now you really are grasping at straws. I don't hear many women say they have had a colesytectomy, either. They say, "I had my gall bladder taken out."

That is why you, as a layman, shouldn't attempt to use medical terminology, either. You misuse it and distort it because you have neither the education nor the ability to understand it.
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Because there is an attachment to the word "baby" as to mean a real, live, kicking human being inside the womb.

Distortion would be call them as not human beings, even up to at 40 weeks.
 
souggy said:
Urgh.

I got my English linguistics history all mixed up. You're right. I keep forgetting Latin was introduced to the English about two or three times in the past. One with Christianity, the other with the Renaissance... and the Scientific Revolution.

Referred to the wrong time-era-- should had been the Renaissance. Good job on catching that slip-up.
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I believe it was introduced three times. I was just wondering!
 
jillio said:
You seriously need to get a grip. You are right on the edge of loosing it completely.:laugh2: Can you count? 40 weeks is not the first trimester.
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Fetus is described in the development stage from 8 weeks out to 40 weeks at the time of birth. Unless, you are saying that at 38, 39, 40 weeks they're to be called babies from now on or what?

Let me help you...again.

Fetus: The unborn offspring from the end of the 8th week after conception (when the major structures have formed) until birth. Up until the eighth week, the developing offspring is called an embryo.
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Fetus definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms

Is a "fetus" at 36 weeks a human being? yes or no?

Is a "fetus" at 40 weeks a human being? yes or no?
 
kokonut said:
Because there is an attachment to the word "baby" as to mean a real, live, kicking human being inside the womb.

Distortion would be call them as not human beings, even up to at 40 weeks.
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kokonut, you already hung yourself in this one, and you just keep shortening the rope.:laugh2: Keep going.:lol:
 
kokonut said:
Fetus is described in the development stage from 8 weeks out to 40 weeks at the time of birth. Unless, you are saying that at 38, 39, 40 weeks they're to be called babies from now on or what?

Let me help you...again.


Fetus definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms

Is a "fetus" at 36 weeks a human being? yes or no?

Is a "fetus" at 40 weeks a human being? yes or no?
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I refuse to discuss medical terminology with one who has absolutely no understanding of the language they are using. It is like engaging in battle with an unarmed opponent. You are at a decided disadvantage, and I have no desire to completely humiliate you.
 
kokonut said:
I don't see pregnant women beaming proudly saying "Here, feel that? That's my fetus. That's your fetus brother kicking in there!" But you certainly hear them say, "Here, feel that? That's my baby! That's your baby brother kicking in there!"
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There is a reason why the terminology "popular culture" was coined in the 1950s.

Everyday usage does not always coincide with legal or medical definitions.
 
souggy said:
There is a reason why the terminology "popular culture" was coined in the 1950s.

Everyday usage does not always coincide with legal or medical definitions.
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Right. And why we don't tell a 2 year old to masticate their food.:giggle:
 
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