Pope John Paul II in the hospital

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Pope John Paul II hospitalized
Vatican says pontiff is suffering from the flu
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Updated: 5:50 p.m. ET Feb. 1, 2005

VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul II was taken to a hospital Tuesday night, the Vatican said.

The pope fell ill with influenza Sunday and was forced to cancel all his engagements over the past two days. He was taken to Gemelli Polyclinic Hospital in Rome, where he has been treated in the past, as a precaution, the Vatican said, without elaborating.

John Paul, 84, who has wrestled with complications of Parkinson’s disease for several years, came down with the flu Sunday, and doctors advised that he cut back on his activities. NBC’s Stephen Weeke reported that the pope had been noticeably more frail than normal in recent weeks, speaking in an unusually weak and gravelly voice.

The Italian Health Ministry has recommended flu shots, particularly for the elderly, but Vatican officials refused to say whether John Paul had one, citing his right to privacy.

The Vatican makes brief announcements when the pope takes ill but rarely provides details on the extent of the illness or any medicine he may be taking. In addition to Parkinson’s disease, he suffers from crippling knee and hip ailments.

John Paul’s voice was weak but he was otherwise in good form during a public appearance Sunday when he tried to release a dove out of his apartment window as a symbol of peace. He chuckled with children who watched in delight as the bird flew back into the room overlooking St. Peter’s Square.

The pontiff was addressing thousands of young people from an Italian Catholic organization who marked January as a month to promote peace.

NBC’s Stephen Weeke in Rome, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
 
He is in a very weak state, has been for years. I believe that the grim reaper is creeping up onto him. I'm surprised he even made it this far considering the weak health he've been in.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
He need to die.

You do not decide that. Only God will know when He is ready to take Pope up there.

I grew up with Pope as a constant presence in my life as I grew up in Jesuit schools so this is heartbreaking.

I also met Pope when I was in Rome and got a blessing from him.

He has done so much and kept going despite his fragile health for many years. Bless him!!!!!!!!!!!

*making a sign of cross*
 
I actually agree with Steve. And, some of the others here. (with the exception of Crazy). I think the pontiff needs to step down (or be retired), and a new Pope appointed. The man (and yes, he is a mere mortal), is very old and sick. It's time, I believe, that he step aside. I think it would be the kindest thing for him at this point.

Just my two cents worth.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
He need to die.
To be honest with you that I am surprised to see a christian who would say that.

I wonder what will you say or feel if I say "Bush needs to die"?
 
Magatsu said:
To be honest with you that I am surprised to see a christian who would say that.

I wonder what will you say or feel if I say "Bush needs to die"?

I actually am not. Many Christians feel this way.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I actually am not. Many Christians feel this way.
Oh... I guess I learned something new about them. No wonder why I no longer want to be part of them.

Thanks for info!

Back to topic, I sincerely hope that Pope will be okay soon or later. Oceanbreeze is right that he needs to resign since he is too old and very weak.
 
Magatsu said:
Oh... I guess I learned something new about them. No wonder why I no longer want to be part of them.

Thanks for info!

Back to topic, I sincerely hope that Pope will be okay soon or later. Oceanbreeze is right that he needs to resign since he is too old and very weak.

Magatsu,

Please don't take my word for it. Go out and talk to some Christians yourself. Make up your own mind. I personally feel uncomfortable saying that all christians are judgmental. I don't believe ALL Christians are judgmental, but some are. I am a Christian, but I also don't try to shove my beliefs down anyone's throat. I believe each and everyone of us has a right to decide for ourselves what type of belief suits them best. I don't have the right to judge whether it's wrong or not. I don't go around saying someone is a sinner, and is going to hell. It's not my place to judge.
 
Actually I didn't take your word for it. I wouldn't be surprised about most of them. I grew up in christian-strong family and community. I saw these kind of ridiculous behaviors/attitudes all of the time. I was a christian until approx 16 years old (I can't remember).

But that's new one about Pope. I will find out by bringing up about Pope with these christians to see for myself.
 
I don't believe in the office of the papacy, but I do not wish ill for the man John Paul. I am afraid his health is not good due to his old age and the long term affects of his attempted assassination. That was a lot of trauma to his body.
 
All I am asking is no bashing him, please.

I know that many Christians do not like Pope. Growing up, I was often told by other so called Christians that I am not a Christian simply because Im Catholic.

So please leave this a rest and just remember his legacy.
 
Let me ask yall this,,, Would you rather see pope john paul sick and hardly move people helping him to read. Or your rather see pope john paul in peace with god?
 
Magatsu said:
Actually I didn't take your word for it. I wouldn't be surprised about most of them. I grew up in christian-strong family and community. I saw these kind of ridiculous behaviors/attitudes all of the time. I was a christian until approx 16 years old (I can't remember).

But that's new one about Pope. I will find out by bringing up about Pope with these christians to see for myself.

I know what you mean. I grew up with a Fundamentalist Baptist upbringing, and it had a very bad affect on me. After I got old enough to make certain decisions for myself, I left the Baptists behind. Then, I joined a Methodist church, and got the same crap there. I "knocked around" a few other churches before I really got disillusioned and left churches behind.

It's only been in the last year or so that I rededicated my life to any sort of Christian way of life, but I'm still not involved in any church. I won't go to church until I can find one that I can feel comfortable in.
 
Oceanbreeze i wont ever go to church for two reasons 1. God took away my hearing and he wont negotate. and 2. Im deaf it would be a waste of time hearing nothing what the preist is saying.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
2. Im deaf it would be a waste of time hearing nothing what the preist is saying.

I went to Mass the past Sunday and had an interpreter so I was able to understand the priest.

Ever thought of taking up ASL? By the time you become fluent in ASL in several years, there might be a cure for ya but why not think about right now and not haveyour life in "limbo". Certainly no fun to miss everything while you wait for that "so called miracle".
 
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