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ah hell Ill explain it
regular license (class F) operators.
Ticket lets say speeding is what 4 points and $200?
CDL
Ticket for speeding (in a regular car) is something like 6 points and $400-$600

now Im not accurate on those as I dont remember but I believe an operators license maxs at 12 points before they take it away, where a CDL they take it at 8 points.

so even being in a normal car, your CDL is your only license, they dont care if it wasnt in a commercial vehicle.
 
Highlander, I highly recommend if you are going for your CDL to get a copy of the CDL book at the DMV and read it, like you dont want to read the link, its not an easy test to take and pass. If you are arguing this I know you havent read anything about the CDL requirements. But please feel free to come back and say Jiro and I were right and you were wrong. We'd appreciate it.
 
sonocativo said:
ah hell Ill explain it
regular license (class F) operators.
Ticket lets say speeding is what 4 points and $200?
CDL
Ticket for speeding (in a regular car) is something like 6 points and $400-$600

now Im not accurate on those as I dont remember but I believe an operators license maxs at 12 points before they take it away, where a CDL they take it at 8 points.

so even being in a normal car, your CDL is your only license, they dont care if it wasnt in a commercial vehicle.
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yep. I recall an ADer in here... I believe TXGolfer talking about that. with CDL license, you'll risk higher fines.
 
this is right off a site I googled up.
Don't know where you're from, TIm, but here in FL, it is possible to buy a tractor and use it for a personal vehicle. Not very practicle, though, because many of the places you might go with a personal vehicle also have electrical wires hanging a bit low. Start tearing down overhead lines and the cost of the truck, itself, won't be much of an issue. But, my son-in-law used the same loophole for his hotshot. Since he only has one eye, he can not get a CDL. As the owner of the rig, he can get away without it. He still needed a physical and medical card (with a waiver for his eye). With a semi-tractor, you do run into a sticky situation with the air brakes and the endorsement.

I have seen a guy build a one-ton pickup into a semi tractor "look-alike". It was physically smaller, but looked just like a long-nose Pete. One of the "drive" axles was actually a dummy, and it had hydraulic brakes. But, hood, cab, sleeper, fifth-wheel and all, it looked like a Pete. If you want a tractor, that might be an option.

If you're looking into driving commercially in the future, start with the CDL. That way, you have it covered. But, when you're driving the tractor around as a personal vehicle, keep the height of the exhaust stacks in mind. I've seen overhead wires get taken down, and it's not nice. Especially, the aftermath of having torn any down. I've seen tractor and trailer damaged because instead of the wire or anchor breaking, the pole broke and was pulled into the rig. Nearly $10 K damages to the rig.
 
sonocativo said:
The DMV issues the tests and licenses, not the DOT... why are you waiting on the DOT?

I know you have to take the drivers part at specific places, here we go to a place run by the Highway Patrol. But it has nothing to do with anything other than passing the driving section.

Per your earlier question, I didnt need a CDL as I didnt have passengers or loads. Once I started hauling loads I had to have the CDL otherwise lose the position. Have you noticed all the people buying school busses and converting to RV type campers... no CDL needed. I can buy a SEMI and drive it as a daily vehicle with no CDL as long as Im not pulling loads for hire. Had one and I know quite a few people who do now as well. I no longer have my CDL because I dont need it, didnt want to spend the extra money for it and all the other crap involved with it ( you still get hit heavy with fines carrying a CDL, unlike a regular drivers license) if you want to argue that as well, just ask any drivers. thats your source for that first hand.
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Not the DOT? Are you hearing or HOH?


Good for you. Few jobs won't let me drive semi-truck without LOADs on the public street. I was surprised that you can drive without CDL and I asked you for source but you ignored my question.

sonocativo said:
Highlander, I highly recommend if you are going for your CDL to get a copy of the CDL book at the DMV and read it, like you dont want to read the link, its not an easy test to take and pass. If you are arguing this I know you havent read anything about the CDL requirements. But please feel free to come back and say Jiro and I were right and you were wrong. We'd appreciate it.
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I already have CDL manual for IL and IA and I studies on it. You knew that I haven't read anything about the CDL requirements then How I knew about Class A to C?

I highly recommend you that know me more before you made bad assumptions.
 
sonocativo said:
ah hell Ill explain it
regular license (class F) operators.
Ticket lets say speeding is what 4 points and $200?
CDL
Ticket for speeding (in a regular car) is something like 6 points and $400-$600

now Im not accurate on those as I dont remember but I believe an operators license maxs at 12 points before they take it away, where a CDL they take it at 8 points.

so even being in a normal car, your CDL is your only license, they dont care if it wasnt in a commercial vehicle.
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My uncle have two license as CDL and driver license. I never heard of CDL with motorcycle like that way. Only for driver license.
 
The Highlander said:
My uncle have two license as CDL and driver license. I never heard of CDL with motorcycle like that way. Only for driver license.
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yes a motorcycle endorsement can be added to CDL
 
sonocativo said:
I answered, I provided source, your uncle is breaking the law. Case closed.
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Read my question again. Bad source and it was for Ohio only and WA only. I don't CARE about just two state. I care about all states.

Umm. He drove for over 20 years and pulled by officer on his personal and semi-truck before for lights out and no one said anything about two licences even court knew it and you keeps bad assumption that he breaking the law. :laugh2::laugh2: You are funny.
Jiro said:
yes a motorcycle endorsement can be added to CDL
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You just assumption.
 
The Highlander said:
Read my question again. Bad source and it was for Ohio only and WA only. I don't CARE about just two state. I care about all states.

Umm. He drove for over 20 years and pulled by officer on his personal and semi-truck before for lights out and no one said anything about two licences even court knew it and you keeps bad assumption that he breaking the law. :laugh2::laugh2: You are funny.


You just assumption.
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me? assume? uh..... nope. I actually checked DMV site and I stand corrected.
 
https://www1.honolulu.gov/csd/vehicle/faqs_cdl.htm#motorcycle
If I have a CDL, where can I apply for a motorcycle permit or license?
You may go to any Driver License Section to obtain a motorcycle permit.
Adding a motorcycle endorsement (category 2) to your CDL may only be completed at the Commercial Driver License office.
Any changes that affect your CDL will need to be completed at the Commercial Driver License office.
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WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Driver licensing fees
Renew driver license with CDL and motorcycle endorsements
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Oregon DMV Driver Licensing & ID Card Fees
Driver License - Class C (non-commercial) - With Motorcycle Endorsement​
Driver License - Commercial (CDL) - With Motorcycle Endorsement​​
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and bunch more. :roll:
 
Jiro said:
are you really that useless and lazy to look it up? you have CDL book. find it there. google it. prove me wrong.
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Jiro said:
https://www1.honolulu.gov/csd/vehicle/faqs_cdl.htm#motorcycle


WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Driver licensing fees


Oregon DMV Driver Licensing & ID Card Fees


and bunch more. :roll:
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Because you assume too much already. I don't live in HI, WA, and OR.

Wow you just assume already and you think ALL states are same. :laugh2:

Your sources are useless again and again. Good thing I don't bother to google up in first place.

You just brat and no diesel tech skill or never drive semi-truck before. That's all you came here to attack me and works so hard to look up google to prove me wrong. It wont works like that way.
 
The Highlander said:
My uncle have two license as CDL and driver license. I never heard of CDL with motorcycle like that way. Only for driver license.
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Jiro said:
are you really that useless and lazy to look it up? you have CDL book. find it there. google it. prove me wrong.
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Already did.

Again, I said
I never heard of CDL with motorcycle like that way. Only for driver license.
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You just acts jerk and don't believe me.
 
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