Perfect Law of Liberty .....

[Heath]

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Winston Churchill exemplified integrity and respect in the face of opposition. During his last year in office, he attended an official ceremony. Several rows behind him two gentlemen began whispering. "That's Winston Churchill." "They say he is getting senile." "They say he should step aside and leave the running of the nation to more dynamic and capable men." When the ceremony was over, Churchill turned to the men and said, "Gentlemen, they also say he is deaf!"

Former U.S. Supreme Court justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. said "The human race is divided into two classes -- those who go ahead and do something, and those who sit still and inquire, 'Why wasn't it done the other way?'"

How many times have we left a job, a project, a church, an important relationship because we just didn't find it good enough? Some of us make a lifestyle of it! But God wants us to be the kind of remarkable people who don't criticize, complain and go out looking for something better all the time. He wants us to be a people who determine to make a difference in the lives of the people and situations He allows us to face!

Your job is boring and you need a change? Ask the Lord how you might grow in your giftings there. Ask Him to help you come up with a creative solution and maybe even improve your workplace altogether! You want to leave your church because it doesn't have an exciting children's ministry? Perhaps the Lord is calling you to help start one up!

Let's be a doers! Let's be people of vision! There's much too much to be done for the Lord to be sitting around criticizing. Let's determine to stop being complainers and go forth and do great things for Him!

 

[Teresh]

...And your point is...?

 

[Heath]

...And your point is...?

A motivating article with a Biblical perspective.

 

[Reba]

...And your point is...?

I believe this is the point:

"Let's be a doers! Let's be people of vision! There's much too much to be done for the Lord to be sitting around criticizing. Let's determine to stop being complainers and go forth and do great things for Him!"

 

[Teresh]

A motivating article with a Biblical perspective.

The article seems to contradict itself because it says to conform and yet to try new things. Which is it?

"Let's be a doers! Let's be people of vision! There's much too much to be done for the Lord to be sitting around criticizing. Let's determine to stop being complainers and go forth and do great things for Him!"

I sometimes have to wonder if having vision is just a part of who a person is or if it's something that can be consciously controlled.

 

[Reba]

The article seems to contradict itself because it says to conform and yet to try new things. Which is it?

Maybe I'm just sleepy (it's way past my bedtime) but I don't see anything in the passage about conforming.

I sometimes have to wonder if having vision is just a part of who a person is or if it's something that can be consciously controlled.

Having a "vision" means seeing a need, setting a goal to meet that need, making a plan to fulfill that goal, and having the motivation to carry out the plan. I think "vision" is not an either or situation. The sensitivity to identify a need might be part of what a person is, but the planning and carrying out of the vision must be consciously controlled. Some people without that sensitivity might need help in "seeing" the need.

Just IMO.

 

[Heath]

Okay Teresh, Suppose you were on the NTID track field. It is empty as you stand and look all around the track right? You take the time to go into prayer alone and are in serious thought and listen to what God's Spirit has to speak to your heart and soul and God will teach your heart what it takes to win the right way then what do you see yourself doing? How do you visualize what your physical fitness goals are as you pray with God, you visualize 2 hours of intense but relaxed warm ups then you walk afield. You see the starting point and visualize yourself feeling and hearing the starter pistol make a loud gunshot sound in the air as the anticipated happy and very curious crowd looks on in the afternoon sunny warm weather, the competition all of a sudden becomes all too real, your whole body, mind and your soul are running and your heart begins to quicken and your feet starts to move really more faster because you want to win then at that thought as you stand afield and ask God how do I go about this, you sense and visualize God saying breathe in and out every 3 or 4 running steps, control and pace yourself to conserve enegry as the track runners zero in on the checkered flag or in the last lap they lay the finishing line ribbon across your chest as you cross that finishing line with very happy arms up in a smiling victory and you have visualized the whole thing with God at your side as you pray. Now you feel and sense calm knowing what your goals and accomplishments are to win that track event and you dedicate your hard work to God because you asked God to teach you as you crossed the finishing line, in real life. You are overcome with the emotions of victory but your mind is so focused on God your whole mind , body and soul your own spirit says Thank you as one towards God of Israel who is sitting in Holy and Pure Heaven has taught you what is needed to be done to be a winner on the track field. Your whole heart and your soul just expresses yourself saying Thank you to God then your parents obivously wants to see you and they are smiling big smiles and are extremely happy and wanting to share the moment with you too because your parents took the time to pray for you to stay safe while you train and to not get hurt while you are at track practice then pray for your victory to be dedicated to God of Israel and now your parents share in the celebrationary moment of the thrilling victory that you are experincing , so are your parents and God are sharing and celebrating, experiencing the joys of victory too. You can do nothing but be crying happy rolling tears towards God and you are celebrating God's victory and His Providence for you with your parents in that moment.

 

[Teresh]

Maybe I'm just sleepy (it's way past my bedtime) but I don't see anything in the passage about conforming.

The suggestion that you shouldn't leave your job to do something different?

Okay Teresh, Suppose you were on the NTID track field... You can do nothing but be crying happy rolling tears towards God with your parents at your side.

...What? O_o I believe people are successful because they do their best and persevere, not because God makes them successful.

 

[Heath]

You don't get it ... Go back and read the story a 2nd time please ?

Watch the Biblical verse come alive for you and you will come to a more perfect understanding .....

 

[Reba]

The suggestion that you shouldn't leave your job to do something different?

I don't think that's the same meaning as "conform".

"Your job is boring and you need a change? Ask the Lord how you might grow in your giftings there. Ask Him to help you come up with a creative solution and maybe even improve your workplace altogether!"

That sounds like suggesting ways to change, grow, be creative and improve the situation. That's not the same as "conforming" by silently bearing the boredom or putting up with the situation. Rather than bearng with and conforming to a "boring" job, he suggests a person can do something to improve the situation.

I guess it depends on viewpoint. The "half glass full" v. the "half glass empty" difference. :P

 

[Maria]

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Winston Churchill exemplified integrity and respect in the face of opposition. During his last year in office, he attended an official ceremony. Several rows behind him two gentlemen began whispering. "That's Winston Churchill." "They say he is getting senile." "They say he should step aside and leave the running of the nation to more dynamic and capable men." When the ceremony was over, Churchill turned to the men and said, "Gentlemen, they also say he is deaf!"

Former U.S. Supreme Court justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. said "The human race is divided into two classes -- those who go ahead and do something, and those who sit still and inquire, 'Why wasn't it done the other way?'"

How many times have we left a job, a project, a church, an important relationship because we just didn't find it good enough? Some of us make a lifestyle of it! But God wants us to be the kind of remarkable people who don't criticize, complain and go out looking for something better all the time. He wants us to be a people who determine to make a difference in the lives of the people and situations He allows us to face!

Your job is boring and you need a change? Ask the Lord how you might grow in your giftings there. Ask Him to help you come up with a creative solution and maybe even improve your workplace altogether! You want to leave your church because it doesn't have an exciting children's ministry? Perhaps the Lord is calling you to help start one up!

Let's be a doers! Let's be people of vision! There's much too much to be done for the Lord to be sitting around criticizing. Let's determine to stop being complainers and go forth and do great things for Him!

Good thread, Heath !

Aaaaameeeennnn !

 

[Heath]

Thank You CyberRed !!!!!

Hi Teresh ..... Here is something else to think about ......

Luke 18:27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

True story! In 1940, a large and wonderful Christian family, the Rudolph's, announced the birth of their 20th baby! Though the baby was not expected to live, having been born prematurely and with polio, she defied all odds. She did live, but by the time she was four she had suffered polio, pneumonia and scarlet fever. This little girl was badly crippled with hardly any use of her left leg. While her brothers and sisters enjoyed running and playing outside, she was left confined to braces.
Will I ever be able to run and play like the other children?" she asked her parents. "Honey, you only have to believe," they responded. "If you believe, God will make it happen." And she did! Now and again, she would practice walking without her braces with the aid of her siblings. On her twelfth birthday, she surprised her parents and doctors by removing her braces and walking around the doctor's office unassisted. She never wore braces again.

Her next goal was to play basketball. The coach only agreed to let her play as a means of getting her older sister on the team. She was given an outdated uniform, but she was allowed to work out with the other players. One day she approached the coach and promised him if he would give her an extra ten minutes of coaching each day, she would give him a world class athlete. He laughed, but seeing she was serious, half-heartedly agreed. Before long her determination paid off. She became one of the team's best players.

Her team went to the state basketball championships. One of the referees noticed her exceptional ability. He asked if she had ever run track. She hadn't. He encouraged her to try it. So after the basketball season she went out for track. She began winning races and earned a berth in the state championships.

At the age of 16, she was one of the best young runners in the country. She went to the Olympics in Australia and won a bronze medal for anchoring the 400-meter relay team. Four years later in Rome she won the 100-meter dash, the 200-meter dash and anchored the winning 400-meter relay team -- all in world-record times. She received the prestigious Sullivan Award as the most outstanding amateur athlete in America.

This is the amazing story of Wilma Rudolph, an Olympic gold medalist, who believed the promises of God.

We must never allow our circumstances to dictate what we can accomplish or who we can become! Let's believe the promises of God for our lives and be encouraged to move forward for him! All things are possible to them that believe!

 

[Dennis S.]

Thank You CyberRed !!!!!

Hi Teresh ..... Here is something else to think about ......

Luke 18:27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

True story! In 1940, a large and wonderful Christian family, the Rudolph's, announced the birth of their 20th baby! Though the baby was not expected to live, having been born prematurely and with polio, she defied all odds. She did live, but by the time she was four she had suffered polio, pneumonia and scarlet fever. This little girl was badly crippled with hardly any use of her left leg. While her brothers and sisters enjoyed running and playing outside, she was left confined to braces.
Will I ever be able to run and play like the other children?" she asked her parents. "Honey, you only have to believe," they responded. "If you believe, God will make it happen." And she did! Now and again, she would practice walking without her braces with the aid of her siblings. On her twelfth birthday, she surprised her parents and doctors by removing her braces and walking around the doctor's office unassisted. She never wore braces again.

Her next goal was to play basketball. The coach only agreed to let her play as a means of getting her older sister on the team. She was given an outdated uniform, but she was allowed to work out with the other players. One day she approached the coach and promised him if he would give her an extra ten minutes of coaching each day, she would give him a world class athlete. He laughed, but seeing she was serious, half-heartedly agreed. Before long her determination paid off. She became one of the team's best players.

Her team went to the state basketball championships. One of the referees noticed her exceptional ability. He asked if she had ever run track. She hadn't. He encouraged her to try it. So after the basketball season she went out for track. She began winning races and earned a berth in the state championships.

At the age of 16, she was one of the best young runners in the country. She went to the Olympics in Australia and won a bronze medal for anchoring the 400-meter relay team. Four years later in Rome she won the 100-meter dash, the 200-meter dash and anchored the winning 400-meter relay team -- all in world-record times. She received the prestigious Sullivan Award as the most outstanding amateur athlete in America.

This is the amazing story of Wilma Rudolph, an Olympic gold medalist, who believed the promises of God.

We must never allow our circumstances to dictate what we can accomplish or who we can become! Let's believe the promises of God for our lives and be encouraged to move forward for him! All things are possible to them that believe!

All the stories about Wilma Rudolph and "God" are fake. They're all made up by various preachers and pastors to use as an example. I have not been able to find any NON-CHRISTIAN sites that profess Wilma's success to God, nor to any quotes printed and cited to Wilma that have her citing God as her success or reason for healing, only

"When I was going through my transition of being famous, I tried to ask God why was I here? what was my purpose? Surely, it wasn't just to win three gold medals. There has to be more to this life than that."

Those preachers and pastors are using Wilma's name falsely to gain legitimacy.

 

[Heath]

Dennis, That is what you think ? Sad.

 

[Dennis S.]

Dennis, That is what you think ? Sad.

Sad of you to think that if some of the story is true (i.e. citing Wilma's birthdate and accomplishments) then the whole story must be true.

There's about 5 different versions I found in one quick search:

http://www.broadviewbaptist.org/whatsnew/2002/02November/default.htm
Always have hope—Wilma Rudolph’s story

Wilma Rudolph was a young girl who had a crippling physical problem. Naturally, she wanted to be normal, to be able to run and move around easily like other children. One day, when she was feeling rather low and discouraged, she asked her parents if she would ever be able to run like those without her handicap.

Her parents, being faithful believers in God, said to her, "Honey, believe in God and never give up hope." Wilma took to heart her parents' advice. She faithfully trusted God, and daily she tried to improve her running skills. By the time she was 12, she had strengthened her legs so much that she no longer needed braces. Furthermore, when she entered high school, she played on the basketball team and helped the team win the conference title.
Wilma Rudolph, however, will be remembered most of all by the fact that in 1960 she went to the Olympics, and with her running skills, won three gold medals.

Who can deny the power of God, the practice of hope and the wonderful results of perfecting whatever gifts God has given to us?

http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2004-10-26/pastor-dottin.html
You must have heard about the Afro-American athlete, Wilma Rudolph. She was born prematurely on June 23, 1940, weighing 4.8 pounds. A great portion of her childhood was spent in bed, afflicted with a number of diseases: compound pneumonia, scarlet fever and later she contracted polio in her left leg. After losing the use of that leg, she was fitted with metal braces when she was six years old.

Her father was quite a productive athlete: he had 22 children. Now, Wilma Rudolph won the bronze medal in the 1956 Melbourne Olympics and became the “fastest woman” in the 1960 Rome Olympics where she won the 100 meters and the 4 x 100 metres.

After Wilma lost the use of her left leg, the doctor said that she would never walk again. The mother, however, had enormous faith in God. She told the doctor that he did not have the final say on her daughter’s “walkability.” That she knew a doctor above all human doctors: the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Great Physician and the Balm of Gilead.

Her works matched her faith, because every week, the mother took Wilma to Meharry Hospital, Fisk University, Tennessee, USA. At nine years old, she was out of her braces, and became a basketball icon, even scoring 49 points in one game.

Faith in God makes the difference.

Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him (Hebrews 11:6).
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/3196.htm
The life of Wilma Rudolph, the great Olympic sprinter, is a remarkable story of faith. Wilma was born with health problems that left her crippled. "Will I ever be able to run and play like the other children?" Wilma asked her parents.

"Honey, you have to believe in God and never give up hope," they responded. "If you believe, God will make it happen." Taking her parents' counsel, she painfully struggled to walk. By the time she was 12, to the delight and surprise of many, Wilma no longer needed her braces. She went on to play basketball on her championship high school team and win three gold medals in the 1960 Olympics.

When you hear inspiring stories of faith like Wilma Rudolph's, do you sometimes wonder, "What could I accomplish if I took God at His Word?"

http://www.williejolley.com/documents/ThePowerofDecision.pdf
Wilma Rudolph was born in Clarksville, Tennessee, the seventeenth of nineteen children. Her mother was a maid and her father was a store clerk. They didn’t have a lot of money but they did have a lot of love. At the age of four, little Wilma was stricken with polio and was crippled in one leg. Her parents took her to the hospital, which was about a hundred miles away, and the doctors told her that she would not walk again.
Wilma was heartbroken because she loved to run and play with her bothers and sisters. On the long ride home, she kept thinking about what the doctors had said and started to cry. Her parents sat with her, talked to her, and told her, “Baby, I know the doctors said that you were not going to be able to run again, but I don’t believe they were right. I believe God is going to heal you and that you will run again, and will run fast.” Wilma made a decision now. She said, “I had heard what the doctors said and I had heard what Mama said, and I’ve decided to believe Mama!”

http://www.hppc.org/w/sermons.nsf/4...2809cfa3b310512c862570040068c675?OpenDocument
God poured out His Spirit upon a little girl in Clarksville, Tennessee. Wilma Rudolph was born in 1940. Because she only weighed 4 lbs. no one expected her to make it to her 1st birthday but she did and she began to walk and very soon showed her preference for jumping and running instead of walking. But Wilma was small and sickly. Her family couldn’t afford a physician and besides there was only one doctor in Clarksville, Tennessee in the 1940’s that would treat black people.

When Wilma was 4 years old, she became very sick with scarlet fever and then polio. Polio left her left leg twisted inward, so much so that she could not walk. She was told that she would never walk again. But Wilma kept moving, moving any way she could and she and her mother spent twice a week, two days a week, going 50 miles on the bus each way to go to a hospital that would treat her and she worked hard in physical therapy.

Wilma had 19 older brothers and sisters and she was well cared for by her siblings and her parents. She worked very hard. Wilma had a dream. God had given her a dream. She believed that not only would she one day walk again but she dreamed and believed that she would run for the glory of God.

So she kept working in physical therapy until they gave her brace and so she then started walking with a brace. One day, one Sunday, as the family went to church which was Wilma’s favorite place to be in the sanctuary where all the people that she knew and loved were singing and praying and laughing and worshipping together. She held back. Her family went on in and she said, “ Dear Lord, please make me walk.” She took her brace off and she took one step at time, her knees violently trembling, but she walked all the way down that center aisle, the congregation in amazement. They danced and they praised the Lord for this miracle.

Yeah, all those stories contradict each other in various ways.


Here's one Pastor who cites that it was her hard work that made her succeed, not God.

http://www.fbclexington.com/pastors_letter.asp
"What changed Wilma Rudolph from a crippled girl in braces to an international track star? Nine years of hard work made the difference."

Here's another Christian document that states that Wilma's example is "only an illustration" to show that hard work can result in success and Wilma's success is not a miracle by God in itself.

http://realtimefaith.adventist.org/LessonsStudent/2006/RTFSTUQ1/RTFstu106Lesson5.pdf

So, you can take your "sad" attitude and find the TRUTH instead of spreading false Christian writings to "combat the Liberal, Godless extremists."

 

[Heath]

Dennis, it is not the Chrisitan pastors who are lying. The pastors have no reason to lie.

It is Wilma who is lying and making up stories. You have to go to the source. Sometimes famous people do change their stories around by then everybody is confused on him or her all thanks to that famous person lying and being manipulative.

 

[Teresh]

Dennis, it is not the Chrisitan pastors who are lying. The pastors have no reason to lie.

It is Wilma who is lying and making up stories. You have to go to the source. Sometimes famous people do change their stories around by then everybody is confused on him or her all thanks to that famous person lying and being manipulative.

Oh, so Christian pastors who have never met Wilma know her life story better than she did?

She lived her life story, Heath. Something tells me she would understand it better than anyone.

 

[Dennis S.]

Dennis, it is not the Chrisitan pastors who are lying. The pastors have no reason to lie.

It is Wilma who is lying and making up stories. You have to go to the source. Sometimes famous people do change their stories around by then everybody is confused on him or her all thanks to that famous person lying and being manipulative.

Wow. You're the one who claims to speak of common sense. It's certainly not common sense to blindly believe that pastors aren't making up stuff to get their congregations to believe in God. After all, the church gets more money with more God-fearing members.

 

[Heath]

Wow. You're the one who claims to speak of common sense. It's certainly not common sense to blindly believe that pastors aren't making up stuff to get their congregations to believe in God. After all, the church gets more money with more God-fearing members.

There are good pastors and bad pastors like everything else in life.

 

[DreamDeaf]

Heath...you are a mass of contradictions... first you espouse the story of Wilma Randolph as an inspiration, THEN you denounce her as a liar, NOW you flatly state that there are good pastors and bad pastors.

*sigh*

No wonder why I enjoy reading your threads...I always can count on you to give me the deaf soap opera drama fix every day.

Pass the popcorn, please.