Oops! Mythbusters did something wrong!

Hey TWA, if you want 100% fool proof, then you should hide under the rock and stay there forever. You will be safe down there!

I am sorry, I had to completely disagreed with you. There is no such thing as 100% safe fool proof. Only fools thinks that way, and you appears to be one of these fools. Sorry to be blunt but that is what it is.

Have you heard of Murphy's law? If your furnace blew up, police come down and cuffed you since you didn't take care of your own furnace. That is how you sees it.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Did you read the article I posted? Read it, which exposes the flaws in just one of the Mythbusters' experiments (many more have been refuted and dismissed by real scientists, btw).
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Ya know what's awesome? Would these scientists even study those myths if it weren't for Mythbusters? People's need to prove someone wrong is much stronger than people's need to prove something right.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Apples to Oranges. People who live on a golf course expect damage from golf balls and they take precautions against it (shatterproof glass, covered outdoor patios, etc.)

I don't think the people who live on the other side of the hill were ever made aware of the fact that a friggin cannonball might come plowing through their house at any moment.
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I think people who lost homes and loved ones were similarly not told that an airplane might one day land on their house. We take risks every single day. Even after this event, I would not be more concerned about buying a house in that area. This is because I understand that the probability that this happens again is low.... and the probability that it's my house that gets hit is even lower. It's not something you can apply a number value to, but you can apply an emotional risk value to it. You would not buy a house there, I can accept that. For you, the risk is too great.
 
Daredevel7 said:
And of COURSE it's not real science, but at least it has SOME semblence of truth. Real science is boring as hell, and there rarely are "breakthroughs", only tiny pieces that add up to a breakthrough.

It isn't as if Mythbusters gets most things wrong anyway. In my opinion, it does the best it can while balancing the entertainment factor.
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You know very well that most of what they do cannot be considered valid experiments. They use no controls, no peer reviews, no duplications, etc. etc. All hallmarks of the scientific process.

IMO, they could actually be doing some damage. Like in the case of peeing on a charged metrorail line and getting electrocuted. They claimed that was a myth and could never happen. (The article I posted refuted this.)

What if some dumb kids decided to put that to the test?
 
Daredevel7 said:
Ya know what's awesome? Would these scientists even study those myths if it weren't for Mythbusters? People's need to prove someone wrong is much stronger than people's need to prove something right.
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I was glad to see the plywood parachute didn't work before I tried it on a job site.. Poor Buster :(
 
Have you heard of this

"No risk equals no rewards"

You may not realize that these guys at Mythbuster is NOT the only one that takes risks in history book. There are hundred thousands people took the risks and we all learn from them.

For example, Ben Franklin took risk flew the kite during thunderstorm. Anything CAN go wrong and did we learn from Ben Franklin? Hell yes! Other example, these guys that went to Moon, which is a HUGE risk for them, did we learn from them? Of course!
I thanked Ben Franklin for his invention and risk of having wood burning stove indoor. If it were not for him, there won't be any woodstoves.

If there is no one taking risk, we will be still in cave age!

Again, I am more than willing to take risk because there is reward in it. Of course, I try everything to be safe at same time.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Ya know what's awesome? Would these scientists even study those myths if it weren't for Mythbusters? People's need to prove someone wrong is much stronger than people's need to prove something right.
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Yes, unfortunately they have a moral obligation to expose these so called "mythbusters." Allowing ignorance to persist can be a very very dangerous thing.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
You know very well that most of what they do cannot be considered valid experiments. They use no controls, no peer reviews, no duplications, etc. etc. All hallmarks of the scientific process.

IMO, they could actually be doing some damage. Like in the case of peeing on a charged metrorail line and getting electrocuted. They claimed that was a myth and could never happen. (The article I posted refuted this.)

What if some dumb kids decided to put that to the test?
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What if dumb kids decided to act like bloodthirsty soldiers?
Oh, wait, they do...
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Did you read the article I posted? Read it, which exposes the flaws in just one of the Mythbusters' experiments (many more have been refuted and dismissed by real scientists, btw).

I didn't say there was anything wrong in what you listed. Certainly you had the scientific process in a nutshell. But nutshells are no good in the scientific realm. We need precision and accuracy. What I imply is that Mythbusters operates under the guise of "real science" but are in actuality a couple television personalities who are just going for entertainment value.
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Did you know that the Mythbusters sometimes review their own experiments based on viewers feedback? And the fact that "real scientists" also review and even come to different conclusions is evidence that the show has real value.
 
diehardbiker said:
Have you heard of this

"No risk equals no rewards"

You may not realize that these guys at Mythbuster is NOT the only one that takes risks in history book. There are hundred thousands people took the risks and we all learn from them.

For example, Ben Franklin took risk flew the kite during thunderstorm. Anything CAN go wrong and did we learn from Ben Franklin? Hell yes! Other example, these guys that went to Moon, which is a HUGE risk for them, did we learn from them? Of course!

If there is no one taking risk, we will be still in cave age!

Again, I am more than willing to take risk because there is reward in it. Of course, I try everything to be safe at same time.
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You're free to take risks that endangers your own life. In fact, please take all the risks you can! Live life to the fullest!

But don't endanger someone else while you do it.
 
diehardbiker said:
Have you heard of this

"No risk equals no rewards"

You may not realize that these guys at Mythbuster is NOT the only one that takes risks in history book. There are hundred thousands people took the risks and we all learn from them.

For example, Ben Franklin took risk flew the kite during thunderstorm. Anything CAN go wrong and did we learn from Ben Franklin? Hell yes! Other example, these guys that went to Moon, which is a HUGE risk for them, did we learn from them? Of course!

If there is no one taking risk, we will be still in cave age!

Again, I am more than willing to take risk because there is reward in it. Of course, I try everything to be safe at same time.
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here's a difference - those people were in pursuit of scientific truth. Mythbuster is in pursuit of pure entertainment with lot of explosions and cute tits.
 
Cheetah said:
Did you know that the Mythbusters sometimes review their own experiments based on viewers feedback? And the fact that "real scientists" also review and even come to different conclusions is evidence that the show has real value.
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I think they did the MPG thing 3 times even
 
Cheetah said:
Did you know that the Mythbusters sometimes review their own experiments based on viewers feedback? And the fact that "real scientists" also review and even come to different conclusions is evidence that the show has real value.
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Good for them. But it doesn't seem to stop them from going out and devising some other ridiculous junk science experiment for their next episode.

I mean, polishing a turd. Really?
 
LOL there is no differences in there. I can't seem to see the difference. Not all experiments are entertainments. Even some scientist do experiment for their own entertainments.

For example, there are bunch of real scientist that did experiment on how to start the charcoal grill in no time. How? Using pure liquid Oxygen. Is it dangerous? Hell yes, and is it for fun too? Hell yes!


Jiro said:
here's a difference - those people were in pursuit of scientific truth. Mythbuster is in pursuit of pure entertainment with lot of explosions and cute tits.
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TheWriteAlex said:
You know very well that most of what they do cannot be considered valid experiments. They use no controls, no peer reviews, no duplications, etc. etc. All hallmarks of the scientific process.

IMO, they could actually be doing some damage. Like in the case of peeing on a charged metrorail line and getting electrocuted. They claimed that was a myth and could never happen. (The article I posted refuted this.)

What if some dumb kids decided to put that to the test?
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Hmm.. no controls/duplications? Are you sure about that? They do try to implement controls and repeated experiments (if it doesn't involve huge explosions that would be hard to repeat)

I wonder.... have you actually seen episodes?

As for the dumb kids, you're really going to blame it on Mythbusters? This would spark a whole new thread of stuff that they show on TV that kids could duplicate. Jackass, anyone?
 
diehardbiker said:
LOL there is no differences in there. I can't seem to see the difference. Not all experiments are entertainments. Even some scientist do experiment for their own entertainments.

For example, there are bunch of real scientist that did experiment on how to start the charcoal grill in no time. How? Using pure liquid Oxygen. Is it dangerous? Hell yes, and is it for fun too? Hell yes!
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It's not even worth trying to discuss this with you.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Hmm.. no controls/duplications? Are you sure about that? They do try to implement controls and repeated experiments (if it doesn't involve huge explosions that would be hard to repeat)

I wonder.... have you actually seen episodes?

As for the dumb kids, you're really going to blame it on Mythbusters? This would spark a whole new thread of stuff that they show on TV that kids could duplicate. Jackass, anyone?
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I've seen a few episode. Something about lighting a gasoline trail with a cigarette, one about thermite cutting through a car, and I dunno, something else. In each episode I saw them make a lot of conclusions and observations that I just couldn't help but think, "Yeah, but what about if you accounted for . . ." and so on. I suppose if I watched more, I might find some experiments that I can approve of, but that sort of inconsistency doesn't appeal to me. I'm kinda surprised you watch this show.

One problem I with this show is how people will use it as scientific fact to refute arguments. How many times have you heard the line, "No, that's not true. Mythbusters proved that already"?
 
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