Obama: US Launches Military Action Against Libya

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You knocking single-parent households, eh?
 
Steinhauer said:
Nowadays, most soldiers were raised in single parent households. Those households struggle. They joined for money, for the hope of one day getting a college degree.

I am not saying ALL of them did, but the majority of the boots on the ground did just that.
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no idea where you get that assumption but I disagree.
 
Steinhauer said:
nope.

More like knocking the divorce rate.
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Yes. Or the unmarried rate. I saw a show on TV about this. I want to think dateline, but I'm not sure. It was about many single-parent household kids entering armed forces. The reasons varied, though.
 
Soooo...people who enter the armed forces that come from single parent households...aren't qualified? :dunno:
 
TheOracle said:
Soooo...people who enter the armed forces that come from single parent households...aren't qualified? :dunno:
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no. he's saying that most soldiers are from single-parent households and they enrolled in military for college money.
 
Jiro said:
no. he's saying that most soldiers are from single-parent households and they enrolled in military for college money.
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Perhaps. Recruiting also targets low-income neighborhoods...but...who cares? If it weren't for those benefits, we'd be short-staffed. :hmm:
 
Steinhauer said:
Nowadays, most soldiers were raised in single parent households. Those households struggle. They joined for money, for the hope of one day getting a college degree.

I am not saying ALL of them did, but the majority of the boots on the ground did just that.
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But who cares? These aren't "free" benefits. There's a trade-off. Personally, I have mixed feelings about recruitment tactics in low-income neighborhoods. I HATED ROTC in my old school. I hated the "special" curriculum, the low standards for ROTC teachers...etc cetera...but...that doesn't mean joining the military so you can get a college education is a bad thing. Very very few people join the military while thinking, "F this country, man, I'm just gonna get some college cash! Yeeehaw!" All servicemen (and women) I know that joined the military partially for college aid are very proud to be serving their country.

Plus...if you're wiling to do a tour in Iraq to get some college cash, that says quite a bit about your determination to succeed in life.

imo
 
TheOracle said:
Perhaps. Recruiting also targets low-income neighborhoods...but...who cares? If it weren't for those benefits, we'd be short-staffed. :hmm:
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yes but I don't agree with Steinhauer's post especially on college money part. Most people who enroll in military for college money are usually officers. Numbers of my friends are the example. Most of them can afford colleges on their own but they did it because they're proud to serve for this country and to set example.

Those who are from low-income households... they tend to stay for years. If not - they end up as construction workers (or related) or local police officers/fire department.
 
TheOracle said:
But who cares? These aren't "free" benefits. There's a trade-off. Personally, I have mixed feelings about recruitment tactics in low-income neighborhoods. I HATED ROTC in my old school. I hated the "special" curriculum, the low standards for ROTC teachers...etc cetera...but...that doesn't mean joining the military so you can get a college education is a bad thing. Very very few people join the military while thinking, "F this country, man, I'm just gonna get some college cash! Yeeehaw!" All servicemen (and women) I know that joined the military partially for college aid are very proud to be serving their country.

Plus...if you're wiling to do a tour in Iraq to get some college cash, that says quite a bit about your determination to succeed in life.

imo
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Nowadays.... joining military for some college money is kinda silly because it's not much. You'll be limited to community or state college. The easiest way to get your tuition 100% paid for in any college you're at is to get signed up... meaning you'll have to serve in military between 3-7 years depending on branch and circumstance.
 
Jiro said:
Nowadays.... joining military for some college money is kinda silly because it's not much. You'll be limited to community or state college. The easiest way to get your tuition 100% paid for in any college you're at is to get signed up... meaning you'll have to serve in military between 3-7 years depending on branch and circumstance.
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If you are in combat and get injured, you get a ton more. My friend was in Iraq and served in the Marines for, oh, I donno, whatever the requirement was...he now attends a private college + gets a stipend.
 
I had students willing to join the military because they only have green cards. Hats off to them.

I also had students with no papers who would've joined the military, but that's not allowed...though it happens.
 
Jiro said:
Nowadays.... joining military for some college money is kinda silly because it's not much. You'll be limited to community or state college. The easiest way to get your tuition 100% paid for in any college you're at is to get signed up... meaning you'll have to serve in military between 3-7 years depending on branch and circumstance.
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My SO has 35k in Montgomery GI benefits right now. That's after serving 4 years overseas and 4 years in reserve. He can (and is right now) go anywhere he chooses until he uses up his benefits, after which he can choose to finish (if the 35k doesn't cover him) with VR. He does have lifetime disability so that helps with the VR portion, but I don't consider 35k "not much". It's better than nothing given all that he's done in Iraq.
 
TheOracle said:
Perhaps. Recruiting also targets low-income neighborhoods...but...who cares? If it weren't for those benefits, we'd be short-staffed. :hmm:
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We could always bring back the draft. ;)
 
Reba said:
We could always bring back the draft. ;)
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We could. But so long as we have people to the job for whatever reason, why both?

*shrugs*

Didn't the Army lower their requirements? Now you can be gayer, dumber and older?

(Just sayin'.)
 
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