Obama legalizes horse slaughter for human consumption

DeafBadger said:
I was responding to what you said: that people in the Midwest or rural area living a country lifestyle eat horse meat. I'm telling you that people in the Midwest, rural area, living a country lifestyle do not customarily eat horse meat. That's all I was saying. :) Most people here would be turned off by the idea of eating horse meat.
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because it has been outlawed for past several decades so I wouldn't be surprised if most people would be turned off by it but I'm referring to those who do eat it before the law because it's in their mindset that nothing should go to waste.
 
Beowulf said:
Wouldn't need him for Lil Abner's Schmoos. :P

"They fell over dead from sheer happiness if anyone looked at them hungrily b/c they were such compliant creatures. Useful, too. You could make buttons out of their eyes, use their whiskers for toothpicks. They laid eggs and provided milk and would have saved the world from starvation and any kind of want or need, but fat cat corporations took care of that."

got that from: Does anyone remember what those little white creatures in the lil abner comics were called? - Yahoo! Answers
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:laugh2: I had forgotten all about those shmoos in Lil'Abner.. I used to read that when I was little. Think Fearless Fosdick killed a few of those.
 
Jiro said:
because it has been outlawed for past several decades so I wouldn't be surprised if most people would be turned off by it but I'm referring to those who do eat it before the law because it's in their mindset that nothing should go to waste.
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Ok, I could see people doing that if they were starving and had no other option. It would be rare. But it is not typical for starving people in the Midwest to find themselves presented with a horse carcass for dinner. :lol:

My aunt's horse recently died of old age on her farm in the Midwest. I can tell you she won't be eating it. It will be buried. The only people who have horses are those who can afford to care for them (very expensive). If they can afford it, they are not hard pressed to buy more typical food. So it would be unlikely that they'd eat their horses.

But yeah, if starving people, even living in the Midwest, suddenly came across a horse carcass in their travels, I imagine they wouldn't turn it down.

I'm just a little bewildered that you think we Midwesterners don't waste anything. Yeah, we waste a lot, actually. Same as the rest of America. Consumerism and all that. :(
 
Ever notice how the McRib comes out after the thoroughbred season :hmm:
 
DeafBadger said:
Ok, I could see people doing that if they were starving and had no other option. It would be rare. But it is not typical for starving people in the Midwest to find themselves presented with a horse carcass for dinner. :lol:

My aunt's horse recently died of old age on her farm in the Midwest. I can tell you she won't be eating it. It will be buried. The only people who have horses are those who can afford to care for them (very expensive). If they can afford it, they are not hard pressed to buy more typical food. So it would be unlikely that they'd eat their horses.

But yeah, if starving people, even living in the Midwest, suddenly came across a horse carcass in their travels, I imagine they wouldn't turn it down.

I'm just a little bewildered that you think we Midwesterners don't waste anything. Yeah, we waste a lot, actually. Same as the rest of America. Consumerism and all that. :(
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"We" as in 'burbs residents?
 
there was/is two different topics here....<no prob, just sayin'>

one - possible political debate which I don't know enough about without going back and reading beyond that original reference, and

two - the argument about eating non-human animals that are generally considered taboo in the much of U.S. Anglo culture - that being horses.
I honestly don't agree with hunting overall for "sport" <cultural subsistance is something else> and would be very uncomfortable/sad with the formal use of eating horses for food for myself - same as dogs, or cats. But if I look outside my cultural bias I know that many people in various parts of the world, including in the United States - kill and eat other animals besides the typical farm and "usual" wild game <deer etc> animals. What makes one animal "right" for killing and another not? Who decides?
 
Jiro said:
because it has been outlawed for past several decades so I wouldn't be surprised if most people would be turned off by it but I'm referring to those who do eat it before the law because it's in their mindset that nothing should go to waste.
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In a situation like that, or if there was nothing else available to eat then I don't have a problem with it. I just don't support horse for human consumption here in the states where the significant majority have access to an already wide variety of food.

I fully respect Native American traditions of utilizing all parts of the animal and not letting anything go to waste.
 
dogmom said:
there was/is two different topics here....<no prob, just sayin'>

one - possible political debate which I don't know enough about without going back and reading beyond that original reference, and

two - the argument about eating non-human animals that are generally considered taboo in the much of U.S. Anglo culture - that being horses.
I honestly don't agree with hunting overall for "sport" <cultural subsistance is something else> and would be very uncomfortable/sad with the formal use of eating horses for food for myself - same as dogs, or cats. But if I look outside my cultural bias I know that many people in various parts of the world, including in the United States - kill and eat other animals besides the typical farm and "usual" wild game <deer etc> animals. What makes one animal "right" for killing and another not? Who decides?
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Exactly. Most here have no problem with eating a cow. Yet, in some parts of the world, killing a cow for food is forbidden. :dunno2: Which animals are appropriate as food sources is totally dependent upon culture.
 
Reba said:
The restaurants in the Cabela's stores do, too. I think also ostrich and other game meats. We always stop there on our way back from MI.
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I can get emu, ostrich, wild elk, and buffalo at Whole Foods. Just before I moved back to Ohio there was a guy in TN about 10 miles from me that started an emu farm. It was a very successful business selling the emu for food.
 
CSign said:
In a situation like that, or if there was nothing else available to eat then I don't have a problem with it. I just don't support horse for human consumption here in the states where the significant majority have access to an already wide variety of food.

I fully respect Native American traditions of utilizing all parts of the animal and not letting anything go to waste.
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I'm pretty sure most of Americans are not going to be eating horse meat but other countries do.

here's a thing - the reason why Obama passed this law is because it makes sense. Why are we exporting our horses to Canada and Mexico to slaughter our horses to sell horse meat overseas when we can do it here? That's a waste of money and loss of jobs. By overturning this 5-years ban, it's a win-win for us.

1. this alleviates horse owners' burden to "discard" horses cheaply without using expensive euthanization and removal process.
2. jobs will be created
3. we can now slaughter horses in here and monitor & regulate horse slaughterhouse whereas we can't for foreign slaughterhouses
 
am also able to obtain kangeroo, alpaca, emu, beaver, rabbit and muskrat as a raw dog feeder though I haven't tried any of those.
 
dogmom said:
am also able to obtain kangeroo, alpaca, emu, beaver, rabbit and muskrat as a raw dog feeder though I haven't tried any of those.
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The emu is pretty good. Kind of like dark meat of turkey, but closer grained and not as much fat.
 
Argentina-Horse Meat world production figures. - Farming UK news

Looks like it'll likely be mostly hispanics and european citizens in America eating horse meat (not saying all will).
Edit: additional info estimates depict Chinese and Russians will top that.

There are no official figures for China and Russia however estimates are:
China 150,000 tons a year and Russia 80,000 tons a year, as they are mainly butchered in small abattoirs and on farms.


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Country        Tons per year
China            150,000 (estimated)
Russia            80,000 (estimated)
Mexico            78,000
Argentina        57,000
Kazakhstan        55,000
Mongolia        38,000
Kyrgyzstan        25,000
Australia        24,000
Brazil            21,000
Canada            18,000
Poland            18,000
Italy            16,000*
Romania            14,000
Chile            10,000
France            7,500
Uruguay            8,000
Senegal            9,500
Colombia        6,000
Spain            5,000*
 
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