Obama Awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

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kokonut said:
Not so if they nominated him after the fact when he became president. Either they nominated him for his 12 days of work or based on his campaign promises.
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ah... a progress, I hope. So tell me - based on everything we showed you.. which one is it now?
 
Jiro said:
his peace philosophy was the deciding factor for Nobel Peace Prize and his peace philosophy was the deciding factor for him to win the Presidency race as well.
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Exactly.
 
kokonut said:
Which is it then? They nominated him based on his first 12 days of office or his campaign promises and speeches he did in 2007 and 2008?
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I'm loss at word.... Are you very confused, my stubborn fella? Perhaps it is your bedtime now. Come back in morning... have some coffee... re-read this thread and you most likely can answer your own question.
 
Jiro said:
his peace philosophy was the deciding factor for Nobel Peace Prize and his peace philosophy was the deciding factor for him to win the Presidency race as well.
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But Obama went after Bush during his 2008 campaigning for not increasing enough troops in Afghanistan. This means he supported additional troop level increase which goes against the idea of any peace philosophy for the Nobel Peace Prize.
 
kokonut said:
Which is it then? They nominated him based on his first 12 days of office or his campaign promises and speeches he did in 2007 and 2008?
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Read the articles, kokonut. All the answers you seek are contained therein. He was not nominated for his work in the first 12 days of his presidency. :roll: That has already been demonstrated through several links outlining the committee's decision. Just because you refuse to read the articles doesn't mean the questions haven't already been answered.
 
jillio said:
I read this article yesterday. I think the intent was to show that Bush had such a negative impact on foreign relations and the concept of peace that it made Obama's philosophies contrast all that much more. And people were decidedly ready for anything that bore no resemblance to Bush and his policies.
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I understand that. I mean, sure, Bush may have caused a lot of friction on the foreign relations and that prompts Obama to get the attention to be generated; all by the hype; but, if that was the only reason why Nobel Peace Prize committee resulted this decision to grant him for this then I'd say this shouldn't have to happen just because of this.

But, all to it's own. I say, Congratulations, President Obama.
 
Jiro said:
I'm loss at word.... Are you very confused, my stubborn fella? Perhaps it is your bedtime now. Come back in morning... have some coffee... re-read this thread and you most likely can answer your own question.
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Like I said, to nominate a person based on his campaign promises and speeches is a very odd, if not reckless, thing to do.
 
kokonut said:
Like I said, to nominate a person based on his campaign promises and speeches is a very odd, if not reckless, thing to do.
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then you'll have to bring that up to Alfred Nobel to change the award procedure.




too bad he's dead
 
kokonut said:
But Obama went after Bush during his 2008 campaigning for not increasing enough troops in Afghanistan. This means he supported additional troop level increase which goes against the idea of any peace philosophy for the Nobel Peace Prize.
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What exactly does that have to do with anything being discussed here? Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. As much as it galls you, it still is a fact. Attempting to distract from that by throwing in unrelated topics does not change the fact that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. Its a done deal. Obama has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The committee decided that he was worthy of being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. As of yesterday, Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize winner.
 
kokonut said:
You do know he broke several campaign promises already, right?
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you do know that 4 years isn't over yet? Come back in 4 years and we can talk over coffee about what campaign promises he didn't keep. :)
 
Jiro said:
then you'll have to bring that up to Alfred Nobel to change the award procedure.

too bad he's dead
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Which only begets more question as to why the NPP committee picked Obama if he didn't even meet three of Nobel's requirements.
 
kokonut said:
Which only begets more question as to why the NPP committee picked Obama if he didn't even meet three of Nobel's requirements.
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and what are those 3 requirements you speak of?
 
Jiro said:
you do know that 4 years isn't over yet? Come back in 4 years and we can talk over coffee about what campaign promises he didn't keep. :)
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Do we have to put up with koko's whining for the next four years? :P
 
Jiro said:
his peace philosophy was the deciding factor for Nobel Peace Prize and his peace philosophy was the deciding factor for him to win the Presidency race as well.
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But his peace philosophy had no power until he was sworn in as President. Until he had presidential authority to do something about his philosophy it was just campaign words.

Saying and doing are not always the same thing. How did the committee in Norway know for sure that Obama would actually do the things as President that he said as candidate?
 
kokonut said:
Like I said, to nominate a person based on his campaign promises and speeches is a very odd, if not reckless, thing to do.
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He was not awarded the prize based on campaign promises, either. You really are demonstrating that you have not bothered to read any of the information put out by the prize committee. So, in effect, you are commenting on something that you truly know nothing about. But here is a fact for you: Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. Al Gore has one, too! :lol:
 
jillio said:
Read the articles, kokonut. All the answers you seek are contained therein. He was not nominated for his work in the first 12 days of his presidency. :roll: That has already been demonstrated through several links outlining the committee's decision. Just because you refuse to read the articles doesn't mean the questions haven't already been answered.
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Are you saying that a nomination is based on prior work or not?
 
Reba said:
But his peace philosophy had no power until he was sworn in as President. Until he had presidential authority to do something about his philosophy it was just campaign words.

Saying and doing are not always the same thing. How did the committee in Norway know for sure that Obama would actually do the things as President that he said as candidate?
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A politician has no power to influence policy unless they are a president?
 
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