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I find amazing that some Americans don't seem to understand what socialism is about, they seem to think it is the same as communism. :roll:
 
Maria said:
You guys don't know what you guys are talkin' about. You guys are lost in the woods without findin' a compass. I am not goin' to waste my time explainin' to you all over again. For once, just GO to one of Reba's threads and you will find my link that related to " socialist/marxist ". It's ALL in there. Why should I explain it HERE while there's already a link in there ?
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Is it what you talking about?

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deafskeptic said:
Nods. isn't Fascism-socialism an oxymoron anyway?
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Not really. You can have a facist dictatorship or you can have a socialist dictatorship. However both extremes in government have the same affect.

The people in both countries have very few rights. Both types of government will define an Enemy and percicute them.

In Nazi germany Jews, the disabled, comminists, gays, gypsys, and others were the enemy to be dehumanized and put down.
In comminist countries Arostocrats were the enemies to be put down.

For someone on their hit list both resimes would be exactly the same. You needed to leave the country if you could. Before someone came to round you up.
Same for those NOT on the hitlist. You just had to keep your head down, agree with everything your government dished out and never critize unless you wanted to see the insides of a concentration camp.
 
I'm also curious to know how Socialism, Communism and Marxism are the same.

you need to get a degree in sociology, better yet a PhD in this and specify your thesis the discernment of all these three

they are not all the same but with LOTS of overlaps.....
 
no way Obama would be any of these above, why do you think he decided to be a President? of course it would be democracy that he would want to exploit.
enough said.
 
i notice maria still has not responded to several ad'ers who have asked her how socialism, communism and marxism are the same. guess we aren't going to get an explanation.
 
Grummer said:
I'm also curious to know how Socialism, Communism and Marxism are the same.

you need to get a degree in sociology, better yet a PhD in this and specify your thesis the discernment of all these three

they are not all the same but with LOTS of overlaps.....
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lol you do not need a degree to understand the basic concept of socialism, communism, and marxism. and yes you're right they do overlap but they're FUNDAMENTALLY different.
 
darkdog said:
Nazism=Nationalsozialismus=National Socialism
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Your point please? Naziism also assumes a superior and more deserving race, which is in direct conflict with the theoretical principles of socialism.
 
jillio said:
Your point please? Naziism also assumes a superior and more deserving race, which is in direct conflict with the theoretical principles of socialism.
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the Aryan Race :cold:
 
Nazi was short for national socialism.

But it's not really socialism but fascism because Hitler had total power and many ideas come mostly from the right wing politics. Hitler hated communism, multiculturalism, and liberalism,and he promoted racism which caused active eugenics. He was anti-democracy as well.
 
netrox said:
Nazi was short for national socialism.

But it's not really socialism but fascism because Hitler had total power and many ideas come mostly from the right wing politics. Hitler hated communism, multiculturalism, and liberalism,and he promoted racism which caused active eugenics. He was anti-democracy as well.
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i learned something new today.
 
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Nazi was short for national socialism.

But it's not really socialism but fascism because Hitler had total power and many ideas come mostly from the right wing politics. Hitler hated communism, multiculturalism, and liberalism,and he promoted racism which caused active eugenics. He was anti-democracy as well.
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I also like to add that Hitler's party included, "socialist" as their title is because it appealed to the people at during the miseries of 1920s and 1930s. People were often leaning to left groups because it offered some sort of hope from hard-line capitalists. In other words...Hitler was using the name of socialism to match his own use...but of course, your absolutely right.
He...hates...Communists and...that is because they are JEWS! (Marx Jew, Trotski Jew)
He thought communism was some sort of...er...Jewish Conspiracy against German race. He believed that Marxism would, "equalize all race" and so thereby weakening Germanic blood through blurred underlining of race if his nation was to be carried under communist rule.

And I think, at some point in Hitler's party combined their socialist group...so that would explain some of the socialist leanings in Hitler's platform in his Mein Kamfp. Of course, by no means was he socialist...Nonetheless, he used socialists ideals to confiscate and justify looting Jewish homes and their private property. And this brought tremendous wealth to Hitler's party.
 
Thank God! Some posters who actually understand the concepts of socialism, Marxism, and Nazism.
 
Hitler was anti-communist, but he was also anti-capitalist. Free enterprise was allowed, but government intervention in the economy was heavy. It wasn't quite socialism as we view it today, but they were also far off from free market capitalism. It was just national socialism. I'm not sure it can be pigeon-holed any other way.
 
darkdog said:
Hitler was anti-communist, but he was also anti-capitalist. Free enterprise was allowed, but government intervention in the economy was heavy. It wasn't quite socialism as we view it today, but they were also far off from free market capitalism. It was just national socialism. I'm not sure it can be pigeon-holed any other way.
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Its already been pigeon holed. It is defined as Naziism. If it were socialism, it would have been defined as socialism.
 
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