NYC Bills People Who Buy Cigarettes Bought Online

[ravensteve1961]

This is another reason why voters going to contunue to vote out the democrats. The mayor is going Bye Bye in 2006.
Cigarette tax

 

[VamPyroX]

And... your point is?

 

[ravensteve1961]

The democratic party still doesnt get it. This is the reason why they lost the election.

 

[Vance]

<ravensteve1961 raving mode>oh silly you angsty boy! It was republicans who want to keep cigarette companies live! More reasons for us to vote inbreeding republicans out!</ravensteve1961 raving mode>

 

[Oceanbreeze]

<ravensteve1961 raving mode>oh silly you angsty boy! It was republicans who want to keep cigarette companies live! More reasons for us to vote inbreeding republicans out!</ravensteve1961 raving mode>

Sarcasm aside. He's right, Steve. It's the Republicans that has sided with the Tobacco companies; not the Dems. The Dems want to sue the tabacco companies.

 

[Vance]

Sarcasm aside. He's right, Steve. It's the Republicans that has sided with the Tobacco companies; not the Dems. The Dems want to sue the tabacco companies.

Yep.

ravensteve, here's snip of article for you:

UNDER the Clinton administration, the tort bar in America enjoyed something of a heyday. Companies were assailed by a host of lawsuits. The biggest settlement was the $206 billion which the tobacco industry agreed to pay over 25 years to 46 American states to compensate for health costs incurred through state-backed health insurance schemes for treating smoking-related illnesses. Then the federal government got in on the act, launching its own lawsuit in 1999. Everyone expected that the suit would be quietly dropped by the Bush administration. After all, George Bush, as governor of Texas, had implemented a series of reforms that made it more difficult to sue companies. Republicans had been beneficiaries of millions of dollars-worth of campaign donations from tobacco companies. And attorney-general, John Ashcroft, though he considers tobacco companies to be “merchants of death”, had proposed a settlement of the lawsuit last year.

Source: Health Fitness magazine


Uh hu, ravensteve, your best pals helped these cigarette companies live! Bush humped their asses with bunch of loves!

Don't you hate it when your ravings backfire on you, ravensteve?

 

[ravensteve1961]

But arent the DEMS taking money out of your wallets? Arent the dems draining your wallet empty? Thats what the link is about.. People are buying cigarettes online. And The online privacy act is volated if the site gave out your adress who mailed you the carton of cigarettes and if NYC gets your adress from the site YOU CAN SUE the company in volation of online privacy act that bill clinton signed back in 1998. Remember when you downloaded illegal music and the music companies find your ISP. The ISP was sued for over millions of dollars because of online privacy act was volated. AOL is the most being sued because they gave em your ISP infomation which you registered. You see you read the privacy infomation pledge which they promised you would be secured when you registered for the service. When the first person gets a tax bill from NYC goverment he or she will run to the lawyer and sue the site that sold him the cigarettes in volation of online privacy act and will prove to the court that your home adress was not secured.

 

[VamPyroX]

Uh... what the hell does online privacy have to do with this? If you're going to make a post, tell us everything AND your point. Don't just say something small and then try defending yourself with bullshit when you know you're wrong.

 

[ravensteve1961]

Im Not wrong, The online privacy act is the law. Cops cannot enforce it you have to file a lawsuit.Just like if some reporter prints a false story in the front page you can be sued for it. Just like carrol burnette sued the national observer because some reporter said she was drunk and had sex henry kissenger.

 

[Taylor]

I'll explain what Steve is trying to say. Prices on cigs in New York have gone up to (on average) 7.50 a pack. Because there is no national sales tax when purchasing on the internet, people started buying them on-line from from merchants in other states. Not only were they cheaper, but there was no sales tax on it.

NY has decided they want to quash that. So, they obtained a list of New Yorkers who purchased cigarettes on-line, and sent them letters demanding back taxes. If back taxes are not paid, then they are fined $200 for each carton purchased.

There are multiple problems with this. There was never supposed to be a sales tax on internet purchases when items are purchased out of state (businesses within your own state charged sales tax in most cases...depending on state law).

So what we have now is a merchant who has given private information (violating the privacy act) to the goverment so they can collect back taxes.

This sets a bad precedent if they are allowed to get away for it. I don't know how many purchases you folks make on-line, but I make a few. I buy a lot of stuff on-line from books to clothing to everyday things. Just buying books, I save a lot of money. I would be royally screwed if Amazon decided to give a list of my purchases to the government and forced me to pay back taxes on all of the books (and products) I have purchased in the last 5 or so years.

 

[Reba]

...There are multiple problems with this. There was never supposed to be a sales tax on internet purchases when items are purchased out of state (businesses within your own state charged sales tax in most cases...depending on state law).

So what we have now is a merchant who has given private information (violating the privacy act) to the goverment so they can collect back taxes.

This sets a bad precedent if they are allowed to get away for it. ....

You got it.

 

[ravensteve1961]

Then why people sued their ISP for giving out their info when they register? Like the Music companies contacted people who downloaded stuff ,They contacted their ISP and the ISP volated their privacy when the register in good faith trusting them that their infomation is secured and finding out they turn around and release their info without their granted permission. Its like the medical people if your files need to be trasnsfer you must sign permission form to release your info. Look at rush limbaughs medical info. It was a volation because of doctor pateint confedenality.So hes suing his doctor because of his private info was volated. So you can sue even it means collecting taxes because of the privacy act.

 

[Gemtun]

Then why people sued their ISP for giving out their info when they register? Like the Music companies contacted people who downloaded stuff ,They contacted their ISP and the ISP volated their privacy when the register in good faith trusting them that their infomation is secured and finding out they turn around and release their info without their granted permission. Its like the medical people if your files need to be trasnsfer you must sign permission form to release your info. Look at rush limbaughs medical info. It was a volation because of doctor pateint confedenality.So hes suing his doctor because of his private info was volated. So you can sue even it means collecting taxes because of the privacy act.

Lawyers must really love you because you would sue ANYTHING, even God.

 

[Vance]

Lawyers must really love you because you would sue ANYTHING, even God.

Oh yes, we better believe it... he would sue God.