Nice number.

I don't care what Highlander thinks... He is full of it! :sure: He just showed who he really are.

my first motorcycle is 150cc and guess what? I have been on highway many times no problem! Yea that 150cc did reach 70MPH! and gets 60MPG

Nowadays I STILL ride motorcycle, it was much nicer now... 1200cc

eh I was fine in both of 650cc and 500cc bikes. Gimme any bike - even the mini version and I'll go on any road :laugh2: Heavier bike does not necessarily mean it's safer than lighter bike for highway. Hell - even a car or truck can get blown off by a strong wind! Driving in heavy rain is dangerous enough for a car - small or big.

Simply use your common sense to gauge the level of hazardous condition out there. If weather condition is dangerous to ride in, then it's dangerous enough for any kind of bike you're riding on.

I STRONGLY do not recommend more than 700cc for a beginner. Any veteran biker would tell you this too. The higher cc it is, the more dangerous it is for beginner. Put in at least 4,000 miles in your odometer before you step up to bigger beast. I cannot tell you how many accident stories I heard and how many members I know were either dead or seriously injured simply because they rode a powerful bike when they do not have sufficient experience/skill for it.

It's not the weight of the bike but it's the engine cc and level skill that are the biggest factors for beginner in terms of safety.


Ride fast and safe! :cool2:
 
I don't care what Highlander thinks... He is full of it! :sure: He just showed who he really are.

my first motorcycle is 150cc and guess what? I have been on highway many times no problem! Yea that 150cc did reach 70MPH! and gets 60MPG

Nowadays I STILL ride motorcycle, it was much nicer now... 1200cc

My friend who own motorcycle for over 20 years and she suggested me to get more than 700c because she has trouble to ride on her motorcycle thru strong wind and almost out of control when semi truck passed her that time she had 450cc or something. Also she said under 450cc is not good for highway for long trip that cause engine work so hard at high speed. That's all I know from her story.

Look who idiot again. Why you own 1200cc right now?
 
eh I was fine in both of 650cc and 500cc bikes. Gimme any bike - even the mini version and I'll go on any road :laugh2: Heavier bike does not necessarily mean it's safer than lighter bike for highway. Hell - even a car or truck can get blown off by a strong wind! Driving in heavy rain is dangerous enough for a car - small or big.

Simply use your common sense to gauge the level of hazardous condition out there. If weather condition is dangerous to ride in, then it's dangerous enough for any kind of bike you're riding on.

I STRONGLY do not recommend more than 700cc for a beginner. Any veteran biker would tell you this too. The higher cc it is, the more dangerous it is for beginner. Put in at least 4,000 miles in your odometer before you step up to bigger beast. I cannot tell you how many accident stories I heard and how many members I know were either dead or seriously injured simply because they rode a powerful bike when they do not have sufficient experience/skill for it.

It's not the weight of the bike but it's the engine cc and level skill that are the biggest factors for beginner in terms of safety.


Ride fast and safe! :cool2:

What's about semi truck and strong wind like 30-50 MPH? Yes, my area is very strong wind.

Car and truck are nothing unlike semi truck.
 
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You should have asked me how long I have been riding on motorcycle,

Its more than 20 years already, and I KNOW it. You said MUST over 700cc for over highway which is NOT true! Better check in DMV laws, they do allow minimum of 125cc on highway. Shrugs!

Not yet but must more than 700cc for highway.

My friend who own motorcycle for over 20 years and she suggested me to get more than 700c because she has trouble to ride on her motorcycle thru strong wind and almost out of control when semi truck passed her that time she had 450cc or something. Also she said under 450cc is not good for highway for long trip that cause engine work so hard at high speed. That's all I know from her story.

Look who idiot again. Why you own 1200cc right now?
 
What's about semi truck and strong wind like 30-50 MPH? Yes, my area is very strong wind.

Car and truck are nothing unlike semi truck.

cars/suv/18-wheelers will be screwed anyway if there's 30-50 mph wind!
 
My friend who own motorcycle for over 20 years and she suggested me to get more than 700c because she has trouble to ride on her motorcycle thru strong wind and almost out of control when semi truck passed her that time she had 450cc or something.

few questions - what is your friend's ACTUAL experience with the bike? the hardcore rider who rides everyday - rain or shine anywhere, anytime? or the "weekend" rider who rides only when it's nice & sunny out on weekend? You can be a rider for over 20 years and have like 1,000 miles on your odometer. there are a few techniques to counteract the wind. if your friend almost got knocked out from passing truck and is having trouble with wind, then she is most likely doing it wrong. or she should not go on highway at all for her own safety. I have rode fast on NJ Turnpike and PiP in winter with incredibly strong wind. It even swayed my biker friend who was with me! He rides Harley cruiser bike. That's one heavy bastard! But hey - YMMV

second - is she a light-weight person?

third - Would you like an email address to my friend motorcycle mechanic? He can easily disprove you and your friend. come to Adventure Rider Motorcycle Forum and ask that question. It has over 100,000 members (bikers) worldwide and over 1,000 active users per day. Your question will be quickly answered within a min! Short answer - whatever the bike you're on, you will get swayed by strong wind and semi-truck passing by you. No matter what.

Also she said under 450cc is not good for highway for long trip that cause engine work so hard at high speed. That's all I know from her story.
baby step first! I GUARANTEE you that if you ride a bike with more than 700cc, you will crash. If I recall correctly - you will be on highway for a short time. Beside - I STRONGLY STRONGLY do not recommend beginner to go on highway unless they have at least 500+ miles first.

Look who idiot again. Why you own 1200cc right now?
why not? because we can! we deserve it after we put in long miles! Just like people going from Honda/Toyota/Ford to Cadillac/BMW/Benz/Lexus! My eyes are on Buell Ulysses - 1203cc (but same weight as my current bike). :cool2:

btw - the higher cc does not mean it's very fast. It's all about power-weight ratio. 1200cc typically means your bike's heavier so it needs a lot of power to pull the weight. You can be 1200cc and some 650cc bike will be lot faster than you!

Highlander - it's your money and your life. If you want to go for 700cc or more, go ahead. We have warned you and advised you. It's up to you to choose who to listen to. Everybody's got different riding style and taste. YMMV - Ride safe and fast! :cool2:
 
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You should have asked me how long I have been riding on motorcycle,

Its more than 20 years already, and I KNOW it. You said MUST over 700cc for over highway which is NOT true! Better check in DMV laws, they do allow minimum of 125cc on highway. Shrugs!

Your post is more pointless now.

I never said MUST over 700cc by LAW. I said STRONG WIND.

I see you avoid my question again. Nothing to news. :roll:
 
few questions - what is your friend's ACTUAL experience with the bike? the hardcore rider who rides everyday - rain or shine anywhere, anytime? or the "weekend" rider who rides only when it's nice & sunny out on weekend? You can be a rider for over 20 years and have like 1,000 miles on your odometer. there are a few techniques to counteract the wind. if your friend almost got knocked out from passing truck and is having trouble with wind, then she is most likely doing it wrong. or she should not go on highway at all for her own safety. I have rode fast on NJ Turnpike and PiP in winter with incredibly strong wind. It even swayed my biker friend who was with me! He rides Harley cruiser bike. That's one heavy bastard! But hey - YMMV

Yes, she is pretty hardcore and she was army for diesel mechanic. She is pretty strong tomboy. I don't really know what's exactly problem with wind thing. That's all I know she said.

second - is she a light-weight person?

Yes, should be.

third - Would you like an email address to my friend motorcycle mechanic? He can easily disprove you and your friend. come to Adventure Rider Motorcycle Forum and ask that question. It has over 100,000 members (bikers) worldwide and over 1,000 active users per day. Your question will be quickly answered within a min! Short answer - whatever the bike you're on, you will get swayed by strong wind and semi-truck passing by you. No matter what.

Sure, IM me and give me a email please and thank you for a link.

baby step first! I GUARANTEE you that if you ride a bike with more than 700cc, you will crash. If I recall correctly - you will be on highway for a short time. Beside - I STRONGLY STRONGLY do not recommend beginner to go on highway unless they have at least 500+ miles first.

I heard lot people said same thing about buy low CC for beginner but I like to take challenge.


why not? because we can! we deserve it after we put in long miles! Just like people going from Honda/Toyota/Ford to Cadillac/BMW/Benz/Lexus! My eyes are on Buell Ulysses - 1203cc (but same weight as my current bike). :cool2:

btw - the higher cc does not mean it's very fast. It's all about power-weight ratio. 1200cc typically means your bike's heavier so it needs a lot of power to pull the weight. You can be 1200cc and some 650cc bike will be lot faster than you!

I am know of that about cc. I just posted here about that.


Highlander - it's your money and your life. If you want to go for 700cc or more, go ahead. We have warned you and advised you. It's up to you to choose who to listen to. Everybody's got different riding style and taste. YMMV - Ride safe and fast! :cool2:

Thank you for advised.
 

Thank you for advised.

no problem! oh yea - some bike dealerships like Harley Davidson and BMW... they do rent out their bikes (weekday is a cheaper rate than weekend). Why don't you give it a shot??
 
Look up at post # 18 above, you clearly said must over 700cc for highway.

I can't believe your denying this, and what question anyway?

BTW, Jiro is right and has very good advises.

Your post is more pointless now.

I never said MUST over 700cc by LAW. I said STRONG WIND.

I see you avoid my question again. Nothing to news. :roll:
 
Look up at post # 18 above, you clearly said must over 700cc for highway.

I can't believe your denying this, and what question anyway?

BTW, Jiro is right and has very good advises.

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Nice number.
Must over 700CC for this.
Not just speed it's about weight and safe from semi-truck and strong wind.

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Nice number.
Why you own 1200cc right now?

Look like you don't bother to read whole this topic.

Another pointless again.
 
Jiro has good point,

I too would have same advise, for beginner, the smaller the better it would be. Only idiot beginners would get bigger and faster bike. Here is proof

Big Ben in serious condition after motorcycle accident - NFL - ESPN
That Pittsburgh steelers Quarterback Ben is new to motorcycle, and that motorcycle has 1299cc, rode it short time before got into near fatal accident.

If you are asking me about winds on the highway, yes this is true however need to learn how to navigate and ride safe. I have dealt with it many times, even with 1200cc Goldwing.

I am not the kind of person who would be anal to anyone, and will treat back if one is being anal to me.

I am not giving up motorcycle and Jeep, and your dead wrong that Jeep is world worst on gas, Hummer is even worse than Jeep.
 
you gotta be kidding me? someone can't handle with windy? Oh well but i do LOVE windy when riding it's fun to challenging with. i used ride 225cc on highway it's nothing to me.. but for starters that you SHOULD to ride 250 to 600cc and yes definitely take jiro's advices he is pretty much correct.. i own 1000cc yes the yahama r1 this thing is scary but i rather 600cc because 600cc handles in the twisties roads better than 1000cc and 600 is MUCH fun. 1000cc is just out of powers enough and i played with yellow ferrari in another day it was pretty easy beat him.. its crazy. 600 is still fast enough either.
 
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you gotta be kidding me? someone can't handle with windy? Oh well but i do LOVE windy when riding it's fun to challenging with. i used ride 225cc on highway it's nothing to me.. but for starters that you SHOULD to ride 250 to 600cc and yes definitely take jiro's advices he is pretty much correct.. i own 1000cc yes the yahama r1 this thing is scary but i rather 600cc because 600cc handles in the twisties roads better than 1000cc and 600 is MUCH fun. 1000cc is just out of powers enough and i played with yellow ferrari in another day it was pretty easy beat him.. its crazy. 600 is still fast enough either.
 
Jiro has good point,

I too would have same advise, for beginner, the smaller the better it would be. Only idiot beginners would get bigger and faster bike. Here is proof

Big Ben in serious condition after motorcycle accident - NFL - ESPN
That Pittsburgh steelers Quarterback Ben is new to motorcycle, and that motorcycle has 1299cc, rode it short time before got into near fatal accident.

If you are asking me about winds on the highway, yes this is true however need to learn how to navigate and ride safe. I have dealt with it many times, even with 1200cc Goldwing.

I am not the kind of person who would be anal to anyone, and will treat back if one is being anal to me.

I am not giving up motorcycle and Jeep, and your dead wrong that Jeep is world worst on gas, Hummer is even worse than Jeep.

GM don't made Hummer anymore. Why bother to look up Hummer? Pointless.

H3 is only 1 mpg less than Jeep and H3 is super bigger than tiny Wrangler and H3 still more HP and torque than Wrangler.

Im not lookin forward to fillin up my Jeep. Gonna hit 70 dollars. URGH!

Somone was not happy with Jeep. :whistle:
 
you gotta be kidding me? someone can't handle with windy? Oh well but i do LOVE windy when riding it's fun to challenging with. i used ride 225cc on highway it's nothing to me.. but for starters that you SHOULD to ride 250 to 600cc and yes definitely take jiro's advices he is pretty much correct.. i own 1000cc yes the yahama r1 this thing is scary but i rather 600cc because 600cc handles in the twisties roads better than 1000cc and 600 is MUCH fun. 1000cc is just out of powers enough and i played with yellow ferrari in another day it was pretty easy beat him.. its crazy. 600 is still fast enough either.

Sound fair to me. Alright.. 600cc is good then.
 
Here a correct picture.

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:)
I hope you enjoyed the races. :)

I've only been to one drag race, in Gainesville, FL. I think it was the Gator Nationals. It was cool to watch but VERY LOUD!
 
I see there's some bashing about bad mileage and such.

Yes Jeep's gas mileage may be terrible compared to Toyota Prius or Chevrolet Cobalt but it depends on where you live. I go by this golden rule - "use the right tool for the right job." DHB lives in upstate NY which is frequently plagued with bad weather all-year around - several feet snow, flood-like rain, etc. etc. So it makes sense for DHB to have jeep while it also makes sense to have Toyota Prius for Florida/California/Arizona. But it does not make sense to have Hummer H1 in NJ just for commuting. Again - use the right tool for the right job.

Useless Gas-Sipping Car is worse than Useful Gas-Guzzling SUV - and a waste of money.
 
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