N.C.: Program Pays $1/Day to Girls For Not Getting Pregnant

Upward Bound Program they were trying to motivated kids to come to their program and end poverty.

But i think they changed that now, but then again who knows?

I noticed it says work-study program, so that could explain it.
 
kokonut said:
money given or placed in a special fund to be collected later?
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given now, I guess so these kids will have some money at home instead the need to work because they are poor.


yes, I had actual cash from them. I know what I saw... MONEY IS MONEY
 
Lighthouse77 said:
given now, I guess so these kids will have some money at home instead the need to work because they are poor.


yes, I had actual cash from them. I know what I saw... MONEY IS MONEY
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That goes back to my point...bribery, it seems.
 
shel90 said:
That goes back to my point...bribery, it seems.
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It doesn't quite live up to the bribery standard if the money is placed in a fund as long as requirements are met. Not much difference on meeting specific or set requirements in order to work towards getting that scholarship.
 
Besides, that "$1 per day" is misnomer. No one is paid directly $1 a day, or $7 a week, or $30 a month. The money is deposited into a special fund and collected only when the person finally enrolls in college and was never pregnant throughout the whole program. That's the incentive. It hinges entirely on the person to succeed but it comes with lots of help, support and encouragement.
 
kokonut said:
It doesn't quite live up to the bribery standard if the money is placed in a fund as long as requirements are met. Not much difference on meeting specific or set requirements in order to work towards getting that scholarship.
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If she saw cash in her hands, doesnt that defeat the purpose?
 
shel90 said:
If she saw cash in her hands, doesnt that defeat the purpose?
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No. You attempting to equate funds that are to be dispersed years later once requirements are met versus monies paid directly on a daily basis. The teen girls do not see one dime of that money. Not one dime. Until the day they enroll for college and have not been pregnant. Again, this is no different from a scholarship program for college bound teens who must meet certain requirements before getting that scholarship.

Again, you are hung up on a misnomer of a phrase, $1/day, as if it were to mean the girls are paid directly $1 a day. This is not true. Nor true on a weekly or monthly basis. This program has a specific target, at-risk teen girls on getting pregnant who have a desire of going to college. This is one of the many at-risk programs for at-risk teens by providing and enabling empowerment to those who desire going to college someday.
 
kokonut said:
No. You attempting to equate funds that are to be dispersed years later once requirements are met versus monies paid directly on a daily basis. The teen girls do not see one dime of that money. Not one dime. Until the day they enroll for college and have not been pregnant. Again, this is no different from a scholarship program for college bound teens who must meet certain requirements before getting that scholarship.

Again, you are hung up on a misnomer of a phrase, $1/day, as if it were to mean the girls are paid directly $1 a day. This is not true. Nor true on a weekly or monthly basis. This program has a specific target, at-risk teen girls on getting pregnant who have a desire of going to college. This is one of the many at-risk programs for at-risk teens by providing and enabling empowerment to those who desire going to college someday.
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I guess I am just too tired to really think rationally and debate so hold that thought. :)
 
it was somewhere in the 90's maybe '92 or '93

The only qualification is neither your parents went to college. (which seem similiar what this pregnancy program is doing too. Their qualification is if your sister or someone got pregnant in their teens). It was suppose to help you get used to college environment, and help you with your homework. kinda like a studyhall. If you don't show up or didn't do any volunteer work, you won't see that money.

the money they gave out is lower than $1 a day, they don't bother keep track what you do with that money. You could spend it on musics if you wanted to. And i believe they gave out the money monthly. My sister was in it with me. I think she understand more about this program than I do. I can't say this program went to waste because both of us did go to college, well she did. I just went to community for a short while. But then again, just about everyone in my school went to college.

anyway, I wonder if this pregnancy program would just make girls have abortion for money. Afterall, they probably don't care about what birth control you use as long as you don't keep your child . I don't know if any of you think this is a good thing (abortion for money, that is)
 
So it starts in college, right? Doesn't it defeat the purpose if the students get pregnant while they are in college?
 
kokonut said:
How efficient in the long run? Tell me, does a 14 or 15 year teen girl who is deemed at risk of getting pregnant stand a better chance of not getting pregnant or a woman who is already informed having gone through the program and goes to college stand a better chance of not getting pregnant? If they can make it past 18 and into college, chances are that they'll make it after college and will commit to having a baby when they're ready. They are better equipped to handle a pregancy than a 14 or 15 year old girl. That is the goal of the program which is to stop teen pregnancies and see that they get to adulthood relatively unscathed.
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I think you need to relook at Buffalo's point, the boys could impregnant more than 1 girls, it could reduce even more if the boys are also involved.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
I think you need to relook at Buffalo's point, the boys could impregnant more than 1 girls, it could reduce even more if the boys are also involved.
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Yes I know and agree with Buffalo. It´s about both, not just girl.

I am mother of 2 sons and make sure that they won´t impregnant girls per day. I would do the same if I have a daughter.


I think the reason why kokonut defend girls over boys is because he himself is father of 3 girls. I would have the same feeling if I have a daughter but I am not Kokonut because I agree that its about both boys an girls, not just girls.

 
oh hell, this thread is still rumbling right? LOL burning hell. While i know what kokonut is coming from, as does shel's, and leib, but allow me to reintinerate my earlier post in this thread - i maintained that this will become another one of those "it was a good idea at the time" phenonmena. I suspect this is gonna be an expensive proposition, leading to failure because assuming this plan as gone 'nationwide' in USA, it will be very likely this will fall apart within 5 years, hell, even 3, because as the novelty will wears off, it would be just be seen as another oppurtunity to rack up free money while in school. The effectiveness would then be begged into question when evidence via the statistics and media reporting that the girls have not abstained from sex, but from pregnancy AND only to find out that they have indeed waited until they are 'old enough to have babies a little later in the early 20'. This brings back to the point, that the plot have eventually been reduced to another form of failed governmental scam that is no longer found to be effective. Lol, im out here, this is a good idea but it wont last this long, give and take 5 years from now, I bet everyone would have forgotten it, look at Amway - everyone thought they'd be millionaires in the easy way via the 'pyramid scheme' lol, it all turned out as a real waste of effort.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes I know and agree with Buffalo. It´s about both, not just girl.

I am mother of 2 sons and make sure that they won´t impregnant girls per day. I would do the same if I have a daughter.
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*nods* I would do the same if I have the children too.

I think the reason why kokonut defend girls over boys is because he himself is father of 3 girls. I would have the same feeling if I have a daughter but I am not Kokonut because I agree that its about both boys an girls, not just girls.
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Ohh maybe that make sense, I guess I should take it easy..
 
I do understand the point of this program. It helps the girls to focus, and remind them that they have a future.

The only thing that I disagreed with is the girls having the burden. Which was clarified later on in this thread.

I would like to see more programs like this but for both sexes. Not just for the girls but for the boys as well. Nowadays it takes so much to be successful in life.

It may not work for everyone, but it does create a positive effect.

A dollar a day is not much. But with the group sessions and whatnot. It creates a group support of peers, to help each other.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes I know and agree with Buffalo. It´s about both, not just girl.

I am mother of 2 sons and make sure that they won´t impregnant girls per day. I would do the same if I have a daughter.


I think the reason why kokonut defend girls over boys is because he himself is father of 3 girls. I would have the same feeling if I have a daughter but I am not Kokonut because I agree that its about both boys an girls, not just girls.
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My having 3 girls has nothing to do with this. It is just common sense that teen girls do have the means and wherewithals to simply say "No" to sex in the effort not to get pregnant and go to college unencumbered. Now, when a boy and girl decides to have and risk sex, then the responsibility falls on them both. Including the financial responsibility of supporting a baby. And, if need be, wage garnishment or force the boy/teen to make financial payments in support of the baby. I have not said anything different, Liebling.

Remember, "no" means "no" for a teen girl and does not mean "yes, let's have sex." This is simply about a program aimed at at-risk teen girls to become pregnant who are college bound and determined. The program gives them the encouragement and the means to think on their own when it comes down to peer pressure. It's all educational that has an active group support in the mix. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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