N.C.: Program Pays $1/Day to Girls For Not Getting Pregnant

[KarissaMann05]

But my point is that, if we would support that program then what about those boys who would like to have support to not have sex with the girls and get $1 each day? What about those teenage who have drugs addict problem and recovered, then they want to have support to have $1 each day to stay away from the drugs to be educated? What about those teenage who have anger problem? So on...

It's kinda unfair for others while only those girls can get $1 to not be pregnanted, but if we can make it equal, it would be even more costly for the government to support.

FAFSA and the scholarship is here if the teenagers are very serious with the school and improve their education strength. Even the adults could apply and to be qualify, it's for everyone.

Well said.

There is need to be done better than this program...

I still want to know about six girls who were pregnant. You know, I feel sad for them... I hope they get a good coopervative from somebody.

 

[Hwy99]

Well said.

Thanks

There is need to be done better than this program...

*nods*..

I still want to know about six girls who were pregnant. You know, I feel sad for them... I hope they get a good coopervative from somebody.

Well it's the consquences for them to face what they have done, but they will always try their best and have someone who are supportive. Sometimes it's interesting, I can see that some teenage mothers who have a child feel like the child was very supportive and important for the teenage mothers.

 

[kokonut]

But my point is that, if we would support that program then what about those boys who would like to have support to not have sex with the girls and get $1 each day? What about those teenage who have drugs addict problem and recovered, then they want to have support to have $1 each day to stay away from the drugs to be educated? What about those teenage who have anger problem? So on...

It's kinda unfair for others while only those girls can get $1 to not be pregnanted, but if we can make it equal, it would be even more costly for the government to support.

FAFSA and the scholarship is here if the teenagers are very serious with the school and improve their education strength. Even the adults could apply and to be qualify, it's for everyone.

The boys are not the one aiming for college that the program is concerned about! It's a girl's program. Period. It's a program that provides a means of emotional and psychological support as well as helping establish greater self-esteem and own accountability for college-bound girls. Not the keywords, "college-bound." Not about couples.

This "unfair" business is a non-sequitur. It doesn't follow because the program's objective is for girls age 12 to 18, whose older teen sisters have gotten pregnant before. It's designed around college-bound girls....not boys....whose objective is that they don't repeat the mistakes of their older sisters. If YOU don't like how it's run, then YOU set up a charitable program. The program has already proved to be an astoundinig success. Something that is constantly overlooked.

It is FAR, FAR LESS costly to help girls 12 - 18 in that program help themselves prevent pregnancy than to have a pregnant teen or teen mother with a baby. Welfare could cost up to tens of thousands of dolllars a year for EACH pregnant teen or teen mother with her baby. Compare that cost of only $365/year for EACH teen girl not pregnant every year in a special fund collectible once enrolled in college.

You can have one teen girl who have multiple "boyfriends" or a single boyfriend. The point is the program's is not about the boys but the girls as a mean of providing self-reliance and decision-making skills when it comes to deciding whether sex is worth the risk for themselves who are college bound themselves.

 

[kokonut]

Well said.

There is need to be done better than this program...

I still want to know about six girls who were pregnant. You know, I feel sad for them... I hope they get a good coopervative from somebody.

If you can establish a program that has a 119 out 126 success rate (if that is indeed the case, which will require a closer inspection) on the prevention of teens getting pregnant who are college-bound, then go for it!

 

[Daredevel7]

I am... so confused. Am I the only one who doesn't think that the numbers prove that the program is successful?

From the OP

The nation's teen birth rate, after declining for 14 consecutive years, has increased over the last two years and now stands at 7.2 pregnancies per 1,000 teenage girls, Albert said.

Nation Rate: 7.2/1000 = .72% teen births
Program Rate: 6/125 = 4.8% teen births

The % of teen births in the program is MUCH higher than the nation's...

Am I missing something????

 

[Hwy99]

The boys are not the one aiming for college that the program is concerned about! It's a girl's program. Period. It's a program that provides a means of emotional and psychological support as well as helping establish greater self-esteem and own accountability for college-bound girls. Not the keywords, "college-bound." Not about couples.

This "unfair" business is a non-sequitur. It doesn't follow because the program's objective is for girls age 12 to 18, whose older teen sisters have gotten pregnant before. It's designed around college-bound girls....not boys....whose objective is that they don't repeat the mistakes of their older sisters. If YOU don't like how it's run, then YOU set up a charitable program. The program has already proved to be an astoundinig success. Something that is constantly overlooked.

It is FAR, FAR LESS costly to help girls 12 - 18 in that program help themselves prevent pregnancy than to have a pregnant teen or teen mother with a baby. Welfare could cost up to tens of thousands of dolllars a year for EACH pregnant teen or teen mother with her baby. Compare that cost of only $365/year for EACH teen girl not pregnant every year in a special fund collectible once enrolled in college.

You can have one teen girl who have multiple "boyfriends" or a single boyfriend. The point is the program's is not about the boys but the girls as a mean of providing self-reliance and decision-making skills when it comes to deciding whether sex is worth the risk for themselves who are college bound themselves.

I don't see any paying the girls to not be pregnanted that make the girls to be uniquely. When the girls say no to boys, I see that as uniquely of girls.

I went to several meetings that are for people to expressing each other through the physoloical or the emotions, but never see anybody paying someone to stay sober except that some of people in the meetings donating the money to the meeting to keep the meeting running. I see that as teamwork.

By the way, you know the boys! The boys could overlook the consquences of accepting to insert their thingy in the girl's hole and could suffer by the children support or ended up to be father, or probably evenually ruin the girl's life! I was just wonder if they would do the same thing to the boys, probably it would reduce the risk for the girls from being pregnant.

Also, if it was only for girls, then that seems unfair and selfish to me.

I am... so confused. Am I the only one who doesn't think that the numbers prove that the program is successful?

From the OP


Nation Rate: 7.2/1000 = .72% teen births
Program Rate: 6/125 = 4.8% teen births

The % of teen births in the program is MUCH higher than the nation's...

Am I missing something????

Yeah, in my math mind, that's like about 60/1000 in program vs 7/1000 from the nation..

 

[Buffalo]

Boys can't get pregnant but certainly the girls can.

Yeah, Boys can't get pregnant but a single boy can get many girls pregnant. 1 or 10 or 100 girls. Boys need to quit keeping scoreboard and start respecting girls/ladies.

 

[kokonut]

Yeah, Boys can't get pregnant but a single boy can get many girls pregnant. 1 or 10 or 100 girls. Boys need to quit keeping scoreboard and start respecting girls/ladies.

Again, this is specifically about a program for college bound girls (age 12 to 18). Not about couples or boys. This is about girls' desire to go to college unencumbered. This program is nothing more than a scholarship progrm for college that comes with certain requirements in order to qualify. There are many other kinds of scholarships that do come with requirements in order to qualify for the scholarship award. Again, a college bound girl can simply say say, "No" to have sex. Or if she plans to have sex then she and the boy need to make sure preventative measures are taken to reduce the risk of pregnancy. But the risk falls on the girl since she is the one who is risking not going to college should she get pregnant.

 

[Buffalo]

Again, this is specifically about a program for college bound girls (age 12 to 18). Not about couples or boys. This is about girls' desire to go to college unencumbered. This program is nothing more than a scholarship progrm for college that comes with certain requirements in order to qualify. There are many other kinds of scholarships that do come with requirements in order to qualify for the scholarship award. Again, a college bound girl can simply say say, "No" to have sex. Or if she plans to have sex then she and the boy need to make sure preventative measures are taken to reduce the risk of pregnancy. But the risk falls on the girl since she is the one who is risking not going to college should she get pregnant.

Why it is the girls that had to shoulder all that responsiblities? Like somebody said it takes two to tango. The focus shouldn't be only on the girls but on boys as well. Back then if a guy got a girl pregnant, they usually do the right thing by marry her. Nowadays, the guy just drops her like a hot potato. The guy's father ought to have a long talk with him before he became sexually active. I won't be surprised if some father acts so proud that the son laid a girl/woman.

 

[Jolie77]

True that dream for college isn't lost but then that means you have a much , much bigger hurdle in front of you. Today's alternative is easier when you can take courses online but the challenge is there, alot more than what people do not realize.

I disagree with you idea of first line of defense. Saying "no" does not require the approval of her boyfriend(s). No means no, end of story. First line of defense. That is what I'm talking about. That "no" ends any possibility of getting pregnant. And allows her to keep the focus on her dream of going to college unencumbered. Now, saying "yes' would involve a second line of defense from both partners, equally so on responsibilities, on preventative measures to reduce the risk of getting pregnant.

I find it rather refreshing to see that these low cost measures produce postive results. It's an investment that pays back in returns by producing productive members. Welfare is not an investment and does not produce productive members in society. This program is based on positive re-inforcement, accountability and responsibility, and self-esteem. A win-win situation.

Ah, I get what you're saying about the first line of defense. I see your point on that.

Granted, maybe this program would be a good investment but the question is, how long will it be efficient in the long run? This program has been recently in the picture and it is still new. It does not have any supportive statements that can be refuted to it. Maybe it was headed in to a successful path but if it was that successful, then why is it that there are no other program like this in various locations that would/should have been widespread all across this country? If this program is so successful as you say it is, then why is it that the teenage pregnancy is still on the rise? This program is probably the beginning of this but I would still be kind of skeptical as to how to see this will be ensured to see if it is flawed or either, it isn't flawed.

I would agree with you on the reinforcement of this program since it may be worthwhile for it's self esteem, accountability and responsibilities. It could work if they are seriously taking a task to this. My question is, Will they still continue to do so, once they realize that they are out in the real world only to know that they can't get paid NOT to be pregnant? Maybe this is a tool to motivate them to learn how to bear responsibilities and to deal with certain situations/challenges but it also does not mean that it should have to "teach' them to earn the money not to be pregnant. I think in a moral value, they would have been taught to reinforce on their self accountability through encouragement, wisdom, and a lot of other resources that can be provided out there.

 

[kokonut]

Why it is the girls that had to shoulder all that responsiblities? Like somebody said it takes two to tango. The focus shouldn't be only on the girls but on boys as well. Back then if a guy got a girl pregnant, they usually do the right thing by marry her. Nowadays, the guy just drops her like a hot potato. The guy's father ought to have a long talk with him before he became sexually active. I won't be surprised if some father acts so proud that the son laid a girl/woman.

There is no burden of responsibility for the girl after saying "No." Therefore no risk in getting pregnant. And no risk to messing up a shot at going to college due to pregnancy. However, there is a burden of responsibility that falls on two couples who both decide "Yes" to have sex and though the female, who is college bound, knowingly takes the risk of ruining her chances of going to college by getting pregnant. Again, this program is about girls who are COLLEGE BOUND. It is a support program for girls who are deemed to be at risk of getting pregnant due to peer pressure or other reasons get the support education about peer pressure sex, the topic of sex, and how to make decisions when it comes to having sex. No big mystery in all this.

 

[kokonut]

Ah, I get what you're saying about the first line of defense. I see your point on that.

Granted, maybe this program would be a good investment but the question is, how long will it be efficient in the long run? This program has been recently in the picture and it is still new. It does not have any supportive statements that can be refuted to it. Maybe it was headed in to a successful path but if it was that successful, then why is it that there are no other program like this in various locations that would/should have been widespread all across this country? If this program is so successful as you say it is, then why is it that the teenage pregnancy is still on the rise? This program is probably the beginning of this but I would still be kind of skeptical as to how to see this will be ensured to see if it is flawed or either, it isn't flawed.

I would agree with you on the reinforcement of this program since it may be worthwhile for it's self esteem, accountability and responsibilities. It could work if they are seriously taking a task to this. My question is, Will they still continue to do so, once they realize that they are out in the real world only to know that they can't get paid NOT to be pregnant? Maybe this is a tool to motivate them to learn how to bear responsibilities and to deal with certain situations/challenges but it also does not mean that it should have to "teach' them to earn the money not to be pregnant. I think in a moral value, they would have been taught to reinforce on their self accountability through encouragement, wisdom, and a lot of other resources that can be provided out there.

How efficient in the long run? Tell me, does a 14 or 15 year teen girl who is deemed at risk of getting pregnant stand a better chance of not getting pregnant or a woman who is already informed having gone through the program and goes to college stand a better chance of not getting pregnant? If they can make it past 18 and into college, chances are that they'll make it after college and will commit to having a baby when they're ready. They are better equipped to handle a pregancy than a 14 or 15 year old girl. That is the goal of the program which is to stop teen pregnancies and see that they get to adulthood relatively unscathed.

 

[Buffalo]

There is no burden of responsibility for the girl after saying "No." Therefore no risk in getting pregnant. And no risk to messing up a shot at going to college due to pregnancy. However, there is a burden of responsibility that falls on two couples who both decide "Yes" to have sex and though the female, who is college bound, knowingly takes the risk of ruining her chances of going to college by getting pregnant. Again, this program is about girls who are COLLEGE BOUND. It is a support program for girls who are deemed to be at risk of getting pregnant due to peer pressure or other reasons get the support education about peer pressure sex, the topic of sex, and how to make decisions when it comes to having sex. No big mystery in all this.

So you think all boys will stop when the girl says no? Not all boys would stop. Some of the boys would pestering until he gets what he wants. I won't be surprised if some boys would use emotional manipulation to get what they want. That is why I see the responsibility should be on both boys and girls.

 

[kokonut]

So you think all boys will stop when the girl says no? Not all boys would stop. Some of the boys would pestering until he gets what he wants. I won't be surprised if some boys would use emotional manipulation to get what they want. That is why I see the responsibility should be on both boys and girls.

That's why they have that program. And that's why they have weekly meetings with other participants to discuss those very things. Discuss experiences, the peer pressures, and so on. No wonder the success rate is 119 out 126 girls who haven't gotten pregnant since 1997.

 

[Grummer]

So you think all boys will stop when the girl says no? Not all boys would stop. Some of the boys would pestering until he gets what he wants. I won't be surprised if some boys would use emotional manipulation to get what they want. That is why I see the responsibility should be on both boys and girls.

actually the guys dont have clue about the level of emotional manipulation, it is the girls whose are generally 3 years ahead in overall maturity. the guys do catch up but at say well over 25 years or 30 years old depending on the work commitment or whatever that blocks their time to sit down and reflect to question what significance does emotions play in life.

also the 'college bound' sounds kinda elitist, a class discrimination in process, to sort out and make sure the brainy girls dont waste their time for work laboour as becoming a mother too soon, 'soceity would women to return their 'education debts' into productive labour so its no wonder this sort of program are aimed at this particular rich/studious cohorts.

 

[kokonut]

also the 'college bound' sounds kinda elitist, a class discrimination in process, to sort out and make sure the brainy girls dont waste their time for work laboour as becoming a mother too soon, 'soceity would women to return their 'education debts' into productive labour so its no wonder this sort of program are aimed at this particular rich/studious cohorts.

Don't get too paranoid or come up with these odd conspiracy theories.

 

[Beowulf]

I am... so confused. Am I the only one who doesn't think that the numbers prove that the program is successful?

From the OP


Nation Rate: 7.2/1000 = .72% teen births
Program Rate: 6/125 = 4.8% teen births

The % of teen births in the program is MUCH higher than the nation's...

Am I missing something????

I don't see any paying the girls to not be pregnanted that make the girls to be uniquely. When the girls say no to boys, I see that as uniquely of girls.

I went to several meetings that are for people to expressing each other through the physoloical or the emotions, but never see anybody paying someone to stay sober except that some of people in the meetings donating the money to the meeting to keep the meeting running. I see that as teamwork.

By the way, you know the boys! The boys could overlook the consquences of accepting to insert their thingy in the girl's hole and could suffer by the children support or ended up to be father, or probably evenually ruin the girl's life! I was just wonder if they would do the same thing to the boys, probably it would reduce the risk for the girls from being pregnant.

Also, if it was only for girls, then that seems unfair and selfish to me.



Yeah, in my math mind, that's like about 60/1000 in program vs 7/1000 from the nation..

LOL! Hmmmm, maybe the results would be more consistent if the guys in one study group had slide rules and the girls used electronic calculators in the other group? Or would they still screw like mad minks?

 

[Lighthouse77]

most people don't know this but upward bound pay kids to attend their program and do voluntary work as an investment for their college as well.

 

[kokonut]

most people don't know this but upward bound pay kids to attend their program and do voluntary work as an investment for their college as well.

No. Not quite.

Upward Bound - Frequently Asked Questions

They will, however, provide help and guidance on the necessary resources to get scholarships and other means of funding for college.

 

[Lighthouse77]

I was in it, and we did get paid