Mom Makes Daughter Stand on Street Corner

[Reba]

... Danny, my eldest son hope that America will improve child protection law etc. then the teenagers will demand their parents to wear a sign saying "I am a bad mother" to public to get them realize how they feeling after what they did to them to public in the past. I add his word "I am an Emotional abuser"...

No, we don't need more restriction of the rights of parents... all this government dependence is giving me chills .

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Not just wealthy kids. Many poorer kids depend on government support the same way. They believe they should get passing grades, job promotions, raises, etc., just because they exist. They don't think hard work is necessary.

Is it example about SSI, you are talking about? I saw some threads somewhere here that people depend on SSI instead of go to work... Right?

I have seen many children (not rich) with this bad attitude. I see them all the time in the schools where I work. That includes college students. Whine, whine. "Text books cost too much. Financial aid should pay for them. If I use my own money to buy my books I can't go to Myrtle Beach this weekend!"
Student rolls eyes and says, "The teacher expects us to actually read that whole book?! No way!"

HUH, silly condition... Every parents including us paid school materials, books, etc. for children which is normal...

For me, "C" is NOT "good"; that is barely acceptable. "D" is almost failing. Most schools do not permit students to participate in sports and other extra-curricula activities if they less than a "C" average.

I see no problem to have C and D because it´s plenty of time for children to learn everyday... Be patience that their grade will ALWAY improve only if you support your children.... Its no good if you keep on punish your children... I talked my American co-worker... they said the same thing as me... C and D is okay, not D+ or F+

Whoa! I am speechless.

Of course taxpayers support their countries. Yes, I thank Government to take care of us people in legal way... Protect people including children´s rights, and also social rights. I´m for it because of Safety is Safety. I don´t like lazy people to get money from our taxes. If they want social rights then go WORK and pay tax.

I paid public healthy insursance every monthy to take care of my healthy... Right?

I paid unemployment insurance - I will get unemployment benefit if I am out of work... Right?

I paid gross tax to Government to take care of our country... Right?

I paid Nursing care insurance to take care of old people ... They will take care of me the same... Right?

I paid pension insurance - I will get money when I´m pension... Right?

I paid annual tax property for house. Right?

I paid car tax and insuracne... Right?

and etc. etc. etc. etc. This is social insurances, we (employees) work to pay to. Why are you speechless? We are not lazy but work hard to pay our taxes with no complaints because we know Governement take care of their people including children well, not spend our money on wars...

We don´t have SSI like this here in Germany. All what I WORK to pay tax...

As I remember that some of threads saying that Americans don´t want to depend on Government... You work to pay tax to Government... What Government do with your tax? Spend your tax on war or what? Look at homeless veternary, people, children, etc. etc. etc. What about them?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No, we don't need more restriction of the rights of parents... all this government dependence is giving me chills .

I cannot beleive how you say like this... All what you worry about government dependence, not consider how poor and innoncent children... It makes me angry and hurt (excuse me for saying this). Look what the parents did to poor children...

http://www.violence.de/prescott/hustler/article.html

*goose pumps*

Look at poor children with no protection right enough... I feel want to hug them... A lot of parents can abuse them in physical... whatever they like because of no better chlidren protection... Scary...

Thanks God, that we have better children protection here in Germany... One 5 years old girl Jessica died of starving here in Germany last year... They punished parents to life sentence... to children protection.... The parents should punish HARD for hurt their children... life sentence... super... instead of send parents to physical hospital...

 

[Reba]

I cannot beleive how you say like this... It makes me angry and hurt (excuse me for saying this). Look what the parents did to poor children...

http://www.violence.de/prescott/hustler/article.html

*goose pumps*

Look at poor children with no protection right enough... I feel want to hug them... A lot of parents can abuse them in physical... whatever they like because of no better chlidren protection... Scary...

That link is your proof? How weird. That is an almost 30-year-old article from Hustler magazine! Not a good resource.

Of course I believe there should be laws and prosecution against real child abuse. There is no way you can compare the girl and her mom standing on the corner, with the examples given in the Hustler link.

Did you notice that the Hustler article made frequent links to child abuse and adult sexual behavior? That is the whole emphasis of Hustler. They don't really care about children. They only care about their sexual pleasure.

I agree that child abuse is a problem. However, the link you provided is the absolute worst example to use. It does nothing to support your argument. We don't need more laws to restrict non-abusive parents. We need to enforce the laws that we have against the real abusers.

 

[Reba]

Of course taxpayers support their countries. Yes, I thank Government to take care of us people in legal way... Why are you speechless?

Because you depend on and trust the government to take care of your every need. You hand over your money and your personal control with no hesitation. That is scary.

We are not lazy but work hard

I believe you.

... to pay our taxes with no complaints because we know Governement take care of their people including children well, not spend our money on wars...

What if another country attacked Germany? Would you expect your government to spend your money on war for defense? What if the government decided to do something that you don't like? Would you always trust them?

We don´t have SSI like this here in Germany.

If people are physically unable to work, who supports them?

As I remember that some of threads saying that Americans don´t want to depend on Government... You work to pay tax to Government... What Government do with your tax?

Some of us don't want the government to take so much tax. We want to spend our hard-earned money the way we want.

Spend your tax on war or what?

If necessary.

... Look at homeless veternary, people, children, etc. etc. etc. What about them?

If workers can keep more of their own income instead of letting the government take it, than more people could live better and not become homeless, etc.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

That link is your proof? How weird. That is an almost 30-year-old article from Hustler magazine! Not a good resource.

I only gave you an example what the parents hurt their children because you said "No, we don't need more restriction of the rights of parents .....all this government dependence is giving me chills ".

Of course I believe there should be laws and prosecution against real child abuse. There is no way you can compare the girl and her mom standing on the corner, with the examples given in the Hustler link.

No I do not compare mother and daughter. Theré´re kind of abuses rights like vebal abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, etc. etc. It´s not physical abuse what a mother did to her daughter but Emotional abuse.

Did you notice that the Hustler article made frequent links to child abuse and adult sexual behavior? That is the whole emphasis of Hustler. They don't really care about children. They only care about their sexual pleasure.

No, it´s not just sexual pleasure, but burnt their bodies with smoking.... out of fun... let them starving to death...

I agree that child abuse is a problem. However, the link you provided is the absolute worst example to use. It does nothing to support your argument. We don't need more laws to restrict non-abusive parents. We need to enforce the laws that we have against the real abusers.

Yes, I´m agree this is a WORST and real abuses... Of course we also need to improve children protection rights to against Emotional, Physical, Verbal etc. abusers. Why? because the parents could become real abuse after use Emotional, and then physical and then........ It could lead the parents addict to hurt children more and more until they become real abusers and kill babies to children.. No Way...

 

[Reba]

Is it example about SSI, you are talking about? I saw some threads somewhere here that people depend on SSI instead of go to work... Right?

Not just SSI. There are plenty of healthy people depending on government support thru many different programs.

HUH, silly condition... Every parents including us paid school materials, books, etc. for children which is normal...

I was trying to show you the attitude that some students here have. They want all the benefits without any of the hard work or sacrifice.

I see no problem to have C and D because it´s plenty of time for children to learn everyday... Be patience that their grade will ALWAY improve only if you support your children....

Like I have said, over and over, if a child truly has a learning disability, then patience and extra help can benefit the child. BUT is the child doesn't care, or is lazy or spoiled, then all the patience and "support" in the world won't improve their grades. How can a child's grade improve if they skip class, don't do the homework, don't study, and ignore the teachers?

I talked my American co-worker... they said the same thing as me... C and D is okay, not D+ or F+

I guess some people have very low standards if they truly think that C's and D's are okay.

I have never seen an "F+"--that must be something new. "F" means "fail"--it is a failing grade whether it is "F+", "F", or "F-"--they all mean "failed the course".

 

[Reba]

Liebling, do you know anything about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine? If you do, you know that any resource from him is tainted.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Because you depend on and trust the government to take care of your every need. You hand over your money and your personal control with no hesitation. That is scary.

I´m not saying that I trust Government with my tax... I only say that they take care of their people including children with tax, like building kindergarten, school, etc. etc. etc.

Social insurances, I paid is an obiglation due social law which different from your country. You dont have to pay social insurances...

Government don´t have to control us and tell us what to do. They gave us freedom but with crimes, volience, rapist, abusers, etc.. is a different story... They control them.

What if another country attacked Germany? Would you expect your government to spend your money on war for defense? What if the government decided to do something that you don't like? Would you always trust them?

It´s not just war or whatever... Yes, Government did something what I don´t agree but I can´t do anything. Why should I whine about them? Mainly important is we are okay but why should we worry about war?

If people are physically unable to work, who supports them?

Depend on different insurances how the people are physically unable to work... If there´re work accident, they are unable to work anymore.. then Employer´s insurance pay them rest of life. Employers insured every employees.

Healthy insurance pays for one year if people are unfit to work (nothing do with work accident). If they are still unfit to work after one year then get money from unemployment ... then later pension money.

Some of us don't want the government to take so much tax. We want to spend our hard-earned money the way we want.

Don´t you work to pay tax to government?

If workers can keep more of their own income instead of letting the government take it, than more people could live better and not become homeless, etc.

No insurance for their future pensioners?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Like I have said, over and over, if a child truly has a learning disability, then patience and extra help can benefit the child. BUT is the child doesn't care, or is lazy or spoiled, then all the patience and "support" in the world won't improve their grades. How can a child's grade improve if they skip class, don't do the homework, don't study, and ignore the teachers?

That´s sad

I guess some people have very low standards if they truly think that C's and D's are okay.

I guess some people expect too much from their children to get A/B all the time. Remember that every children are different. You can´t expect ALL of children get A/B report.

Why should I punish my children because they brought C and D report? *shake the head*... It doesn´t mean that they are lazy but try hard their best to learn... Remember that every children dont have same brains. I praise them for their good report... and show them patience and support them... Why should I worry about their report... mainly important is they show their moviation and try their best... I support them... I would be worry if they are lazy and bad at school...

I have never seen an "F+"--that must be something new. "F" means "fail"--it is a failing grade whether it is "F+", "F", or "F-"--they all mean "failed the course".

Link says "+" mean is good or bad... on which grades.

 

[diehardbiker]

I didn't read whole thread, but after reading your message, and I am pretty much on your side. Know why? Why would anyone believe in pornographic magazine as if they were fact? I wouldn't believe anything thats printed in Hustler magazines, or even any adult orientated magazines.
I agree that too much government control is bad for everybody! It could benefit those crooks and hurt those who doing honest. I have seen enough, heard enough. Our government in the United States is just full of corruptions and too bad not many people even noticed this yet blamed on president that is all.

Liebling, do you know anything about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine? If you do, you know that any resource from him is tainted.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Liebling, do you know anything about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine? If you do, you know that any resource from him is tainted.

No, I never heard about him? Who is he?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am pretty much on your side. Know why? Why would anyone believe in pornographic magazine as if they were fact? I wouldn't believe anything thats printed in Hustler magazines, or even any adult orientated magazines.

pornographic...? this picture of children is REAL.. it´s not pornographic but REAL ABUSE...

I agree that too much government control is bad for everybody! It could benefit those crooks and hurt those who doing honest. I have seen enough, heard enough. Our government in the United States is just full of corruptions and too bad not many people even noticed this yet blamed on president that is all.

Okay, this is your opinion.

It´s nothing do with "too much government control is bad for everybody" but Safety. Of we (European) have our freedom... None of government control us.

 

[diehardbiker]

Wait! I finally got chance to read what this is all about. WOW! I think this woman is brilliant on how to discipline on her teenager daughter. This idea isn't bad idea. I have seen 14 yrs old who is really rebellous and real brats! So, it is best not to judge by the cover. It is best to investigate and find out the other side of the coin for the truth.

I think the real intention for this mother to show her daughter what it is like to be homeless, jobless, etc if one flunked school all the way. So that her daugher CAN see the real picture of the reality. Hence it is daughter's own reality check.

I think we, the public have NO business telling parents what to do with their kids! I think public telling parents what to do with their kids do far more damaging than leaving them alone let them work on their course. The only time public can act up is when there is evidence of excessive punishment occurs, like brusies at inappropriate places, or scars at inappropriate places. For example if you see deep burnt on child's hand then you know the abuses really occurs and the attention is needed.

 

[diehardbiker]

You don't know what Hustler magazine is????? It is PORNOGRAPHIC, that is FOR SURE! Without any doubt! When I was teenager, I get horny and Hustler was my first adult magazine, how can I forget em?

Okay, this is your opinion.

It´s nothing do with "too much government control is bad for everybody" but Safety. Of we (European) have our freedom... None of government control us.

 

[diehardbiker]

Still don't believe that Hustler is really adult magazine. Go and check on www.hustler.com and make sure you have something to catch your jaw!

 

[Reba]

... You dont have to pay social insurances...

I am required to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes every week out of my paycheck.

It´s not just war or whatever... Yes, Government did something what I don´t agree but I can´t do anything. Why should I whine about them? Mainly important is we are okay but why should we worry about war?

Sigh...why indeed?

Healthy insurance pays for one year if people are unfit to work (nothing do with work accident). If they are still unfit to work after one year then get money from unemployment ... then later pension money.

What about people who have never been able to work?

Don´t you work to pay tax to government?

No, I work to support me and my family, and because I enjoy my work. I pay state and federal income taxes because it is required. I also pay sales tax, property tax, personal property tax, gas tax, etc.

No insurance for their future pensioners?

People can save their money, and invest their money in private insurance and pension plans. They don't need to depend fully on government "insurance".

 

[diehardbiker]

Only very few countries have no taxes. United States isn't one of them. Guess what? My state where I live in is the most taxed state in the United States! There is NO way one can avoid paying taxes here.

If you wish pay no taxes, move to Saudi Arabia! They all lived off from oil business, but you gotta to get involved with muslim.

Also, the government retirement system. Who got the oldest system? That is US, the United States! Franklin Delano Roosevelt invented Social Security to help retirement living in good retirement. Right now our Social Security system is so corrupted. Not just because nobody is paying taxes. We do PAY high taxes on Social security. The real problem is that LBJ, the president in late 60's invented a way to solve budget problem by borrowing other branch of governement's money!!! At that time, Social Security had surplus and had money. So LBJ said why not borrow from them to plug in gap with other agencies... I considered this as BIG BIG BIG mistake!!!

 

[diehardbiker]

What Reba said about people can invest that in their private investment or savings for their retirement is pretty much true down here. We have garden variety of retirement plans around. President Bush tried to turn Social security into with options of public or private investment. I think President Bush is trying to correct LBJ's stupid idea, and allow people to invest whatever they want money to go. Sadly, most people freaked out and was totally opposed to Prez Bush... I think What prez Bush did was very wise decision, by allowing people with freedom of choices.

 

[Opal]

Okay, this is your opinion.

It´s nothing do with "too much government control is bad for everybody" but Safety. Of we (European) have our freedom... None of government control us.

False!

All German boys MUST serve once in their time in the Army and/or Mental Hospital against their wishes because of the Government order.