Miscarries After Being Abused By Federal Agents......

Anyways, back to the topic......


CyberRed said:
You are lookin' like an American white to them, but not me. Ok ?
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It doesn't really matter how they look at the person from the outside, this should not be torture just because they're not American or they're from another country, this woman did not come in American to cause problems, she came here to expect to live in freedom as an American and that what we all thought America was like, but unfortunately seeing how this woman was treated is not a good way of showing what America people are like as today....

It's sad cause many of us are not like that, we accpet people from all over the world, and it should not matter what they look like from the outside, every person should be treat fairly whether or not they're American citizens
 
^Angel^ said:
Anyways, back to the topic......





It doesn't really matter how they look at the person from the outside, this should not be torture just because they're not American or they're from another country, this woman did not come in American to cause problems, she came here to expect to live in freedom as an American and that what we all thought America was like, but unfortunately seeing how this woman was treated is not a good way of showing what America people are like as today....

It's sad cause many of us are not like that, we accpet people from all over the world, and it should not matter what they look like from the outside, every person should be treat fairly whether or not they're American citizens
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Yes, I know. I wasn't born yesterday, Angel. I've seen enough from many walks of life. I am a traveler myself. I read newspapers. I am a book wormer. I read non-fiction books where those people tell their true story about what happened out there. I met many different people through travelin' and have chatted with them.. they shared their experiences with me in Amtrak ( train ), airplane, and ferry where I traveled. I learned alot. I am 10 years older than you, girl. And, now I am in Iowa - makin' new friends in real life and I learned many things from them, too. It doesn't matter on whether if it is from the church, or socializin', or where ever. This world have changed so much. We gave away too much freedom to regain their power. Our Constitution is gettin' weak since it has been eroded.

This America is not like what it used to be. It will change to what I call it " AmeriKa ".

And, now about " freedom of speech " - They have the rights, but it is not necessary to have the SAME person to keep questionin' me in every post where ever I post in any thread. Every person has their own different opinion. But, it also needs a space as well. Just back off a little bit and give a person a room. Gee - just back off. And, of course I am aware of that she is YOUR friend and everybody can see "favoritism" started to surface. Tsk - practice what they preach. I am sure you'll probably say it is not "favoritism" but to others, it does.

Have a nice day. :bye:
 
Wow this thread is getting a bit out of hand.... :ugh:
 
*off-mod status*

CyberRed said:
And, now about " freedom of speech " - They have the rights, but it is not necessary to have the SAME person to keep questionin' me in every post where ever I post in any thread. Every person has their own different opinion. But, it also needs a space as well. Just back off a little bit and give a person a room. Gee - just back off. And, of course I am aware of that she is YOUR friend and everybody can see "favoritism" started to surface. Tsk - practice what they preach. I am sure you'll probably say it is not "favoritism" but to others, it does.
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I find this deplorable and rather contradicting...on your part/behalf.

FIRST and foremost, I'm not replying simply cuz you're replying to ^Angel^, whom is my finance', but rather, from a perspective of how you do treat quite a few members here who perhaps at one time or another don't agree with you, then surely, in a mindset, seeing what you consider is 'favoritism' is following you clearly--apparently you simply can't respect any opinion that you obviously can be forming in a manner 'against' you or thinking it's some form of an attack which isn't. You've mentioned in previous posts that every one has a right to speak freely here and obviously you're not upholding your end of that by stating a certain member or two, etc., ought to back off....It may show that you simply can't handle a debate, a thought/opinion expressed by another member OR you see it in a manner that you may believe as it's being formed by a certain alliance. tsk tsk

Be forewarned...put an end to the mannerism you're exhibiting here in AD or else, get out....

{btw, you can 'cut' me all you want, speak ill of me, or exclaim 'favoritism' wholeheartedly yet with such possible malicious intent, screw me with harsh words, etc., I won't be 'moved' one bit...and PLEASE...enough IS enough!!!}


~RR
 
Roadrunner said:
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I find this deplorable and rather contradicting...on your part/behalf.

FIRST and foremost, I'm not replying simply cuz you're replying to ^Angel^, whom is my finance', but rather, from a perspective of how you do treat quite a few members here who perhaps at one time or another don't agree with you, then surely, in a mindset, seeing what you consider is 'favoritism' is following you clearly--apparently you simply can't respect any opinion that you obviously can be forming in a manner 'against' you or thinking it's some form of an attack which isn't. You've mentioned in previous posts that every one has a right to speak freely here and obviously you're not upholding your end of that by stating a certain member or two, etc., ought to back off....It may show that you simply can't handle a debate, a thought/opinion expressed by another member OR you see it in a manner that you may believe as it's being formed by a certain alliance. tsk tsk

Be forewarned...put an end to the mannerism you're exhibiting here in AD or else, get out....

{btw, you can 'cut' me all you want, speak ill of me, or exclaim 'favoritism' wholeheartedly yet with such possible malicious intent, screw me with harsh words, etc., I won't be 'moved' one bit...and PLEASE...enough IS enough!!!}


~RR
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Ohh, are you tryin' to abuse your power by tellin' me to get out ? Well, you remember the word you are usin' to tell everyone " RESPECT " .... that's what I am tryin' to explain about givin' a person room. Don't choke that person's room, if that person's opinion is different from others. It's not necessary to dig for more just because no body can't change that person for his/her different opinions. That's like some certain members bashed/ digged on Miss P in her thread and I thought ..gee - you didn't say anythin' about it until you saw somethin' in here about me and you started sayin' somethin' to me.

Never mind if you guys don't get it. I am done here. :bye:
 
CyberRed said:
Ohh, are you tryin' to abuse your power by tellin' me to get out ? Well, you remember the word you are usin' to tell everyone " RESPECT " .... that's what I am tryin' to explain about givin' a person room. Don't choke that person's room, if that person's opinion is different from others. It's not necessary to dig for more just because no body can't change that person for his/her different opinions. That's like some certain members bashed/ digged on Miss P in her thread and I thought ..gee - you didn't say anythin' about it until you saw somethin' in here about me and you started sayin' somethin' to me.

Never mind if you guys don't get it. I am done here. :bye:
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*off-mod status* << see that? Now tell me how does that apply to abusing my power? Hmmm...thought so.

*back on Mod status*

How are you able to relay everything that does happen here, yet, forming such an opinionated view that implies you're being in my shoes with your statements...what I do or what I have not done, etc.,...tsk tsk...Also, members don't SEE everything IN here, many times, Moderators will send off a 'pm' to a member relating to such bashing, insulting, etc., or insert a 'Mod Note:' in relation to a thread being flamed or getting out of hand, there are times also, certain threads just find its way out without needing to 'explain' to other members what's being done, but doing so that's being fair and done so out of 'respect' ....

Of course, also, there ARE members that harbor such delight with bashing or insulting such ways a member carries about in AD, at the same time, knowing that there are many opinionated views that holds various different perspective views and that has to be respected as long as it's being done so out of respect. Just because a member who may question your stance on an issue doesn't alway is considered as a form of an attack or insult. Yet, if one does feel that, it's always best to 'Pm' a mod or report it rather than bringing it in the open Forum, there's no need for such 'drama' as you're bringing in here in this thread, you're not the only one, but others have done so likewise and have been warned in the past, 'most' of them have complied, why can't you? I'm sorry to see that you're having issues or problems here, but like I can suggest, find somewhere else to go, otherwise, respect others as you would want them to respect you. No need to 'stretch' an opinion of others into some all out drama or flame-war, etc., in here!

Thank you!

~RR
 
Oh, boy.. I am lookin' at your avatar that says " Super Moderator ". What the heck is that while your " off-mod status " or not ? I don't see Vampy or other MODS usin' their " Super " Moderator. Wonderin' why it is only you that use the word "Super" ? Hmm ?

While your off-mod status, I still can see your "Super" in there when it is not off-mod status. I think you should remove that word "super". I feel that you are makin' other MODS aren't important as you feel that you are when usin' "super".

Thanks for sayin' your pieces and I am done. Wanna more to discuss, ask someone for my AIM. I am sure you know who. Good night ........
 
and I thought u said ur done...

so quit biting our heads off and get a rest.
 
Wow, I'm watching this drama show.
Very interesting..
 
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Mod Note:

Time to close the 'curtains' on the drama in this thread and get back to what this thread is related to.

Thank you!


~RR
 
*curiouis* Anything update about Miscarries after being abused by federal Agents ???

Anything news lately ?
 
CyberRed said:
Oh, boy.. I am lookin' at your avatar that says " Super Moderator ". What the heck is that while your " off-mod status " or not ? I don't see Vampy or other MODS usin' their " Super " Moderator. Wonderin' why it is only you that use the word "Super" ? Hmm ?

While your off-mod status, I still can see your "Super" in there when it is not off-mod status. I think you should remove that word "super". I feel that you are makin' other MODS aren't important as you feel that you are when usin' "super".

Thanks for sayin' your pieces and I am done. Wanna more to discuss, ask someone for my AIM. I am sure you know who. Good night ........
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Speaking as a moderator...

The reason why other moderators don't have "Super Moderator" under their names is because they changed it themselves. The default setting is whatever you are. If you're a regular member, it will say "Registered Member". If you're a moderator, it will say "Moderator". If you're an administrator, it will say "Site Administrator". For higher-ranking moderators like me, LinuxGold, and RoadRunner, it says "Super Moderator". However, I changed mine a long time ago for my own pleasure. If I didn't change mine, it would also say "Super Moderator". "Super Moderator" is not there to say that we are boasting our ranking. It's an actual ranking that most websites do from MODERATOR to SUPER MODERATOR to SITE ADMINISTRATOR to ... and so forth.
 
CyberRed said:
Yes, I know. I wasn't born yesterday, Angel. I've seen enough from many walks of life. I am a traveler myself. I read newspapers. I am a book wormer. I read non-fiction books where those people tell their true story about what happened out there. I met many different people through travelin' and have chatted with them.. they shared their experiences with me in Amtrak ( train ), airplane, and ferry where I traveled. I learned alot. I am 10 years older than you, girl. And, now I am in Iowa - makin' new friends in real life and I learned many things from them, too. It doesn't matter on whether if it is from the church, or socializin', or where ever. This world have changed so much. We gave away too much freedom to regain their power. Our Constitution is gettin' weak since it has been eroded.

This America is not like what it used to be. It will change to what I call it " AmeriKa ".

And, now about " freedom of speech " - They have the rights, but it is not necessary to have the SAME person to keep questionin' me in every post where ever I post in any thread. Every person has their own different opinion. But, it also needs a space as well. Just back off a little bit and give a person a room. Gee - just back off. And, of course I am aware of that she is YOUR friend and everybody can see "favoritism" started to surface. Tsk - practice what they preach. I am sure you'll probably say it is not "favoritism" but to others, it does.

Have a nice day. :bye:
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Please, CyberRed...don't put Angel down. I understand you're trying to get your point across, but why would u need to tell her that you're older than her, etc? That's like putting her down. She may be blonde and younger than you, but she isn't dumb or naive. Vampy has explained why RR has Super Moderator title in his avatar. Please, from now on, post nicely without having to insult. I would like to be able to enjoy reading AD posts without seeing upset insultings from anyone. Peace....
 
GalaxyAngel said:
*curiouis* Anything update about Miscarries after being abused by federal Agents ???

Anything news lately ?
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I haven't find any update on this case, and I'm sure they won't do anything to those Federal agents anyhow....

Federal agents who are seeking power over us are not our friends yet if you look at some of the recent history as far as the lies that have gotten away with it....

If an Federal agent shoots and kills an innocent American, then the Federal agent faces no penalty... This has happened in a number of cases and there has been a lot of other cases where other federal agents, DEA agents, or other armed federal agents have abused the rights and sometimes shot and sometimes killed Americans, and these agents are almost never held liable..... If these agents have a right to shoot or wound Americans and don’t face the same type of penalty that you or I would face, then they are legally allowed to do so then we are in danger every time they are around....


What has happened to the people of this country that they would tolerate or abuses, violations of the Bill of Rights? We have all these problems and they are serious problems that are probably going to destroy the country and will probably get worse before it gets better.... :ugh:
 
^Angel^ said:
I haven't find any update on this case, and I'm sure they won't do anything to those Federal agents anyhow....

Federal agents who are seeking power over us are not our friends yet if you look at some of the recent history as far as the lies that have gotten away with it....

If an Federal agent shoots and kills an innocent American, then the Federal agent faces no penalty... This has happened in a number of cases and there has been a lot of other cases where other federal agents, DEA agents, or other armed federal agents have abused the rights and sometimes shot and sometimes killed Americans, and these agents are almost never held liable..... If these agents have a right to shoot or wound Americans and don’t face the same type of penalty that you or I would face, then they are legally allowed to do so then we are in danger every time they are around....


What has happened to the people of this country that they would tolerate or abuses, violations of the Bill of Rights? We have all these problems and they are serious problems that are probably going to destroy the country and will probably get worse before it gets better.... :ugh:
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Immirgation Lawyer will be happy serve for you... to help what your case about.. or can be addy "Bill of rights" appeal in the lesgiation superume(sp) court and to speak it out what their rights. Ain't easy ongoing long haul to become successed the case. Which the best for America..

He was first job....and used to be working immirgation office and pretty horrbile lot of work and pile up the cases and wanted to be warrant the person and also have to get police officer then get that person and put into the room lock up.. To prevent escape.. Wait for paper work do be done processing then ready get the person deporting... That what he working for paper work and processing.. and unhappy workforce there.. Pretty quite tight and not much lunch break limit 15 minz that is it.. 5 minutes break.. wha.. hell... ? And also why other co-worker always plenty time and decide throw to my hubby's casework.. pretty increase pile up.. He decide not wanted to work there anymore which isn't proprite their taskwork...
He is happy working blue collar for 7 years from now..

I have no knowledge about America system..
Is that simlair alike IRS took your invest and house cost.. everything blew it out.. Ohhhh *oppiSe* wrong person.. never return their assets back.. or not even apolgized at all.. I've heard pretty awful lot about IRS.. but NIS.. nope!
 
^Angel^ said:
I haven't find any update on this case, and I'm sure they won't do anything to those Federal agents anyhow....

Federal agents who are seeking power over us are not our friends yet if you look at some of the recent history as far as the lies that have gotten away with it....

If an Federal agent shoots and kills an innocent American, then the Federal agent faces no penalty... This has happened in a number of cases and there has been a lot of other cases where other federal agents, DEA agents, or other armed federal agents have abused the rights and sometimes shot and sometimes killed Americans, and these agents are almost never held liable..... If these agents have a right to shoot or wound Americans and don’t face the same type of penalty that you or I would face, then they are legally allowed to do so then we are in danger every time they are around....


What has happened to the people of this country that they would tolerate or abuses, violations of the Bill of Rights? We have all these problems and they are serious problems that are probably going to destroy the country and will probably get worse before it gets better.... :ugh:
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It´s sick situation... :mad:

That´s exactly what I responsed Reba´s post because Reba said in her post:
Here are some definitions for "murder" from dictionary.com:


Quote:
The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

To kill (another human) unlawfully.

the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing another under circumstances defined by statute (as with premeditation); especially : such a crime committed purposely, knowingly, and recklessly with extreme indifference to human life or during the course of a serious felony (as robbery or rape)

to kill (a human being) unlawfully and under circumstances constituting murder

unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being
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I answered Reba´s post.

http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=463816&postcount=46


It look that it´s okay for government to have their law to kill/abuse people to death..., what they want, not the Killers who kill the people or self-defenders... Why government consider them different?

I consider what Federal Agents did is a MURDER but for government not... :mad:
 
^Angel^ said:
I haven't find any update on this case, and I'm sure they won't do anything to those Federal agents anyhow....

Federal agents who are seeking power over us are not our friends yet if you look at some of the recent history as far as the lies that have gotten away with it....

If an Federal agent shoots and kills an innocent American, then the Federal agent faces no penalty... This has happened in a number of cases and there has been a lot of other cases where other federal agents, DEA agents, or other armed federal agents have abused the rights and sometimes shot and sometimes killed Americans, and these agents are almost never held liable..... If these agents have a right to shoot or wound Americans and don’t face the same type of penalty that you or I would face, then they are legally allowed to do so then we are in danger every time they are around....


What has happened to the people of this country that they would tolerate or abuses, violations of the Bill of Rights? We have all these problems and they are serious problems that are probably going to destroy the country and will probably get worse before it gets better.... :ugh:
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That's what happened to this nowdays. Sad huh ? Of course, I am not happy to see this happen to American citizens via foreigners who want to live in America. God created this earth for EVERYONE to share many countries where they can go for their own pleasures, leisures, and so forth. That's like the drivers MUST share the roads with other drivers. For example : No road rage.

There is alot of times that I don't agree with Federal Agents by how they treated people in despite of their nationalities, races and backgrounds. That's discrimination - IMO.
 
I wanted to suggest to not use generalism in this case, as it takes away the accountability of the individual cops that did this to this pregnant woman. Those particular cops need to be held accountable, while not all cops do something this callous I imagine. Then, perhaps, fine-tune the screening that hires and trains future cops that will be put in sensitive positons like that...

I haven't heard what Internal Affairs are doing.. but I'd bet they are doing their invesigations of thse cops.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
It´s sick situation... :mad:
That´s exactly what I responsed Reba´s post because Reba said in her post:
I answered Reba´s post.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=463816&postcount=46
It look that it´s okay for government to have their law to kill/abuse people to death..., what they want, not the Killers who kill the people or self-defenders... Why government consider them different?

I consider what Federal Agents did is a MURDER but for government not... :mad:
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Excuse me? Please do not imply that I condone the actions of these agents! They were totally out of line in the way they abused the woman.

Lawful execution means that an accused person was put on trial for committing a serious crime, and was found guilty and sentenced, following strict guidelines. That is NOT what happened in this situation.

I do not appreciate you making misapplications of my posts. :mad:
 
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