Made in America or Sweatshop Free stores?

[Reba]

sewing is for girls

Some of the best tailors, sailmakers, and upholsterers are men.

 

[Reba]

BTW, don't expect American cars are 100% made by American!

That's right. Even when they are assembled here, they use parts from other countries. Also, many "foreign" cars are made in the U.S.! BMW cars are made here in South Carolina and then shipped all over the United States.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Indeed. Sewing is out of question.

If I am trying to sew and I will dig the small grave for my fingers to bury.

Er, at the risk of sounding sexist (and, yes I will risk it..lol), there's always Nas.



:::ducks::: Sorry for that one, Mag. Don't me!

 

[Vance]

I don't want to sound like extremist. I no longer care about American made product. For few GOOD reasons, Most textiles in America were unionized, and they DEMAND more money, meaning I have to shell out my money for their high paying job? I don't get paid much like they do, and that often, unions discriminates people with disabilities. Should I support them? NO F***Kin way! I also see unions really destroying Americas quality of life. No wonder why my hometown utility bills were TOO HIGH! All because of their union DEMANDS full paid health benefits and 30 dollars an hour wage. I don't make this much, and I ain't paying them for their luxuries! Finally, I wanted to add this, after almost 5 years experience with working in manufacturing. I can tell you, more than 75% of employees don't give DAMN about manufacturing products and don't care if it runs right or not! (Unionized shop is even worse)So meaning that you may get lousy product because one of employee had bad day with his wife at home and screwed up your product. No wonder why Asian cars, and electronics are FAR better than American cars!

BTW, don't expect American cars are 100% made by American!

Well, that's your choice. I made a choice to help America's economy, not turn around... I am NOT going to help funding the Corporations who would pee on their workers in sweatshops or pay them $0.75 per hour. Pray tell, can you live on $0.75 - $1.50 per hour in America? Or would you get a job with only $0.75 - $1.50 per hour wage? I highly doubt that you will. Unionzing destroy Americans' quality of life...? Erm okay, I already made a suggestion about books on Corporation issues in other topic where I responded to your post. Once again, I personally suggest you to read these books. Actually, the Corporations are the ones who destroyed our quality of life, not turn around. I searched and I found my post in other topic.

BTW, don't expect American cars are 100% made by American!

I didn't say that. I was implying that American cars SUCK at gas-conserving system.

diehardbiker65, honest with you, I rather to not discuss about Corporations or Union in this topic, I created this topic to ask for some help or any ideas where I can find some "Made in America" stores for me to order some clothes. I made a mistake to adding some political comments but if you want to discuss about it any further, you can make a topic in Debate forum and I am more than happy to utilize the knowledges that I recieved from reading the numbers of Corporate-related books. The last thing I want to have mods to move this topic to debate or somewhere else when this topic somehow leads to something else. From now, I will try my best to ignore or not posting any political comments in this topic to 'secure' this topic from moving to other forums.

They are supposed to be very long lasting, so it is economical if they last a long time, rather than frequently buying new ones.

However, I buy most of hubby's khakis, jeans, work pants, t-shirts, casual shirts, sport coats, windbreaker jackets, and dress slacks at Goodwill. I think that is "earth friendly" to recycle clothing.

Er, at the risk of sounding sexist (and, yes I will risk it..lol), there's always Nas.



:::ducks::: Sorry for that one, Mag. Don't me!

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Magatsu Oceanbreeze

 

[diehardbiker]

Im not endorsing the sweatshop at all. What I am trying to say is that because of these greedy union people demanding higher wages, forcing corporation finding way to sell people like me cheaper product by looking for cheaper wages. If it weren't for these greedy union people, we won't have this problem!

Corporation exists for what? PROFITS! DOn't you all realize that the majority of corporation budget goes to where? W*A*G*E!!! At least 70% of their budget!!! That is for MAJORITY of corporations! 70 PERCENTS!!! I am serious about this. One penny increase in hourly wage makes huge differences for corporations.

Without corporations, we won't have jobs, PERIOD!

Until all Americans wakes up, quit thinking just for themselves, and get all of our asses united once again, I don't care about American made goods!

Well, that's your choice. I made a choice to help America's economy, not turn around... I am NOT going to help funding the Corporations who would pee on their workers in sweatshops or pay them $0.75 per hour. Pray tell, can you live on $0.75 - $1.50 per hour in America? Or would you get a job with only $0.75 - $1.50 per hour wage? I highly doubt that you will. Unionzing destroy Americans' quality of life...? Erm okay, I already made a suggestion about books on Corporation issues in other topic where I responded to your post. Once again, I personally suggest you to read these books. Actually, the Corporations are the ones who destroyed our quality of life, not turn around. I searched and I found my post in other topic.

BTW, don't expect American cars are 100% made by American!

I didn't say that. I was implying that American cars SUCK at gas-conserving system.

diehardbiker65, honest with you, I rather to not discuss about Corporations or Union in this topic, I created this topic to ask for some help or any ideas where I can find some "Made in America" stores for me to order some clothes. I made a mistake to adding some political comments but if you want to discuss about it any further, you can make a topic in Debate forum and I am more than happy to utilize the knowledges that I recieved from reading the numbers of Corporate-related books. The last thing I want to have mods to move this topic to debate or somewhere else when this topic somehow leads to something else.



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Magatsu Oceanbreeze

 

[diehardbiker]

I can understand that, can I ask you this... Can you really TRUST any stores telling you this product is made in America? I don't think it is possible because Wal-Mart once vows that they will NEVER sell any products made outside of America... Look what happened? Where did their vows gone?
There is HUGE possiblity that any one of vendors claiming they are selling only American products, but actually bought overseas and jack up the profits over your false assumption that they are telling you the truth. Is there law against this? I don't think so! Does Uncle Sam really enforcing making sure that vendor isn't misleading? I don't think so!

My point is really simple, if all of us American quit thinking of themselves and get all of our asses united as customers. We WILL WIN! Otherwise, I am not wasting my time fighting while millions of ignorants Americans sleeps on couch.

diehardbiker65, honest with you, I rather to not discuss about Corporations or Union in this topic, I created this topic to ask for some help or any ideas where I can find some "Made in America" stores for me to order some clothes. I made a mistake to adding some political comments but if you want to discuss about it any further, you can make a topic in Debate forum and I am more than happy to utilize the knowledges that I recieved from reading the numbers of Corporate-related books. The last thing I want to have mods to move this topic to debate or somewhere else when this topic somehow leads to something else. From now, I will try my best to ignore or not posting any political comments in this topic to 'secure' this topic from moving to other forums.



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Magatsu Oceanbreeze

 

[Vance]

I can understand that, can I ask you this... Can you really TRUST any stores telling you this product is made in America? I don't think it is possible because Wal-Mart once vows that they will NEVER sell any products made outside of America... Look what happened? Where did their vows gone?
There is HUGE possiblity that any one of vendors claiming they are selling only American products, but actually bought overseas and jack up the profits over your false assumption that they are telling you the truth. Is there law against this? I don't think so! Does Uncle Sam really enforcing making sure that vendor isn't misleading? I don't think so!

My point is really simple, if all of us American quit thinking of themselves and get all of our asses united as customers. We WILL WIN! Otherwise, I am not wasting my time fighting while millions of ignorants Americans sleeps on couch.

It is just a matter of researching skill. Wal-mart is a big corporation... of course they cannot be trusted in any form.

Actually, I am a member of several organizations and they are quite good at researching and dot the connection between the 'dot and dot'. That's why we need the regulation laws to ensure that they keep their words when they said that... If not for regulation laws, well good luck. How did we find out about Wal-mart? Researching and God-blessed regulation laws.

I already submitted the links and names of these stores to these organizations to see what going on. According to that gal, this catalog which is on the way to my place; it is based on "word of mouth" (and researches/confirmations). I am more than sure that you know how powerful "word of mouth" is.

Edit: Look... if you want to buy the stuffs from sweatshops, that's your choice but I am not going to allow anyone included God to convince me otherwise when I made a decision. I think I can afford to invest my trust in that gal's words or catalog for now. I want to help the economy in America and that's what I am going to do.

I did not, not even once, try to convince you or anyone else to not buy the stuffs from pro-sweatshops stores. Can you respect the choice I made like what I did for you?

 

[gnarlydorkette]

[pulling this thread back on track]

I found some more stores online that said "MADE IN USA"
http://www.unionjeancompany.com/
(couldn't find more since you and several others already post the rest)


Check out this article: http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/bamw/bamw-040329-apparel.shtml
I didn't read through it but it seems to have reviews for several stores whether they are "Made-in-USA"

For a fancy suit made in USA-- http://www.oxxfordclothes.com/


But if it all fails, maybe you can contact American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition at http://www.amtacdc.org/ to find out which stores are part of the organization??? I am sure they do have a pamphlet or brochure to advocate and encourage people to make purchases from "Made-IN-USA" stores!



I do notice that I try to steer away from "MADE in CHINA" apparel. But when I saw "MADE IN INDIA" it didn't bother me. I know India is having a hard time to support all of citizens so I guess it relax my conscience, knowing that I am helping the Indian citizens. I never shop directly from "GAP" or "A&F"... I always shop at thrify or second-handed stores. If I need something new-- Target. that is it.


I did find a collection of which brands to buy but.... it is in England... the "MADE-IN-AMERICA" doesn't apply ehre but they say they are the most ethically friendly and eco-friendly brands so...?
http://www.cleanclothes.org/companies/04-04-alternative-ethical-clothes-review.htm (here)

Good luck! (Now I am off to my closet to see how many clothes I have are imported or made in USA)

 

[Vance]

[pulling this thread back on track]

I found some more stores online that said "MADE IN USA"
http://www.unionjeancompany.com/
(couldn't find more since you and several others already post the rest)


Check out this article: http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/bamw/bamw-040329-apparel.shtml
I didn't read through it but it seems to have reviews for several stores whether they are "Made-in-USA"

For a fancy suit made in USA-- http://www.oxxfordclothes.com/


But if it all fails, maybe you can contact American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition at http://www.amtacdc.org/ to find out which stores are part of the organization??? I am sure they do have a pamphlet or brochure to advocate and encourage people to make purchases from "Made-IN-USA" stores!



I do notice that I try to steer away from "MADE in CHINA" apparel. But when I saw "MADE IN INDIA" it didn't bother me. I know India is having a hard time to support all of citizens so I guess it relax my conscience, knowing that I am helping the Indian citizens. I never shop directly from "GAP" or "A&F"... I always shop at thrify or second-handed stores. If I need something new-- Target. that is it.


I did find a collection of which brands to buy but.... it is in England... the "MADE-IN-AMERICA" doesn't apply ehre but they say they are the most ethically friendly and eco-friendly brands so...?
http://www.cleanclothes.org/companies/04-04-alternative-ethical-clothes-review.htm (here)

Good luck! (Now I am off to my closet to see how many clothes I have are imported or made in USA)

Hooray, thank you for pulling this topic back on track. Yes, I am guilty! Anyway, thanks for these links! I finally found the store that sells the decent jeans (Union Jean and Apparel, a store that you found)! FINALLY!

About American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition, ah.. that gal did mentioned to me but I didn't take that into account until you mentioned about it. I definitely am going to contact them to find out. Thanks!


To all people who posted the links, many thanks! It means alot!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

sewing is for girls

No, it's not just for girls but boys, too.

My father-in-law was a tailor and sew suits for rich business people when he was 16 years old.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

After taking a ewing class, make sure that these fabrics and needles/thread are made in USA too

Seriously, I've pondered on this myself too. But if you start with clothing, what about cars, computers, TVs, shoes, socks, video games, furniture, DVDs, school supplies, books, perfumes, etc? It would be so hard for me to do it down to the line.

True Meg,

Look the example:

We are dream to have oriental rugs but it's expensive to buy in Germany than in Turkey. We saw beautiful handmade oriental rugs in Turkey and was think about buy them cheaply. It put us off total after learn that oriental rugs are made by small children in India and other Asia.

We only buy the rugs with the proof of stamp on back of rugs that it's not made by children and right store, not markets. Germans do not accept the rugs who made by children anymore few years ago after found out the truth thru scandal.

http://truevisiontv.com/slti2.html

http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2000/12/xmas/

You should read everything from "Happy Christmas, sucker! robing childhood abroad for our kid’s gifts".

Child Slavery

According to Human Right International, the total number of slave children, between five and 14 years old, is between 100 to 200 millions. They constitute a large part of the subcontracting work force for export industry, working under hazardous conditions in the footwear, garment, furniture, carpet, gemstone polishing, handicrafts mining industries and all those dollar stores products across North America. In 1994 it was estimated that over 400,000 Indian children’s, as young as six years old, worked in damp pits making carpet for the United States, Germany, and UK. In Pakistan kids sew soccer balls for the USA.




Toys and products that contribute to child slavery

All dollar stores products are made on Third world countries as India, China, Pakistan, Taiwan, Mexico, and South-America, whose laws are easy to go around if the price is right. The Pokemon and Happy Meal toys at Mc Donald’s are all made in China’s “FREE ZONE”. This free zone’s built in China, where made for Foreigner companies, mostly Americans, to build for cheap and without any labor laws products for the North American population. Barbie’s, Fisher Price, Disney products, Nickelodeon product’s, Hot wheel’s, Action Men, Wal-Mart’s, Toys R US, Gap, Sears, Levi’s, Pokemon, Digimon, and of course NIKE!

http://www.piratesincorporation.tv/motel_social.htm

http://www.kirkbytimes.co.uk/news_items/2003_news/adidas_trainer_exploitation.html

And also Mc Donald's Happy Meals, too.

I don't care which countries the clothes made of, but NOT buy anything where the children made.

I bought clothes with second choice in Czech. Republic cheap where the children are not made.

 

[Vance]

The catalog that I mentioned in my previous post which a gal sent it to me few days ago has arrived! I skimped and there is indeed many clothing stores for men, women and children. Here's the catalog:

Now I can "walk the walk". Hooray. Well, for me, that's one small step for a man; one giant leap for mankind :P

 

[Reba]

Looks like a cool resource.

 

[kuifje75]

Cool, I googled it up and came with this:

http://www.coopamerica.org/pubs/greenpages/

The catalogue is searchable. And to get a copy of it, one needs to pay membership.

 

[Vance]

Cool, I googled it up and came with this:

http://www.coopamerica.org/pubs/greenpages/

The catalogue is searchable. And to get a copy of it, one needs to pay membership.

Yeah, it is searchable but I rather to look through the 'hard copy' since Nas and I will bring it with us to Sweden for us to look over what we can order and discuss during flight to kill the time. I also am thinking of getting a membership as well to support the economy in America. btw, this catalog's paper is 100% recycled (magazine section's paper is 30% recycled).


Anyway I ordered several items from American Apparel three days ago, I believe and it arrived today. Here's the picture:

"Made in LA"