Knowledge questions

[Vance]

I am curious about your views/opinions of this subject... There are several questions that I'd like to ask some of you. I don't know if this topic is in right forum or not...

When and if you acquire the knowledges and/or facts and what will you do with these?:

1) Acknowledge it and use it to improve your lifestyle, your child(ren), your lover, anything that is part of your life?

2) Dismiss it when it offends your beliefs or your lover/relatives tell you so?

3) What about this, would you share the facts or knowledges with your friends, co-workers or your relatives even if you know that they will completely oppose or probably get angry at you?

4) Did you ever make a decision to not share the knowledges or facts with others because it will offend their beliefs or their opinions? Have it ever happen to you before?

Knowledges/facts can be from anywhere/anything. Books, magazines, journals, medical articles, rumors, gossips, TV, movies, etc etc...

 

[Reba]

It depends on how important and relevant the information is to the people involved. If I think it is important and useful I will apply it to my life and/or share it with other people.

 

[Vance]

Reba, even if the information probably will offend your friends, co-workers or even your husband's beliefs or opinions? Are you still sharing with them anyway or decide to not?

 

[Reba]

If it is important and useful I would. I wouldn't share it just to be annoying or hurtful.

As you have noticed in other threads, I have already shared the Gospel with ADers, and many people feel that is offensive. I don't share the Gospel to hurt people. I share it because it is important and useful.

My hubby and I share all the same beliefs about important things, so I can't think of anything off-hand that I could say that would offend him. There might be something but I really can't think of anything.

Maybe you need to give me an example of a situation.

 

[lutsko67]

Importatant Info

I agree. if it's imp. Ikeep it! And pass it on.If it's spam or vile I trash it! Also, Reba I got your e-mail. Thanks for the heads up! i have just begun to be comp. literate. I drove trucks all my adult life and never needed or thought I needed computers. Any way thanks for the info., and thanks for the welcome. I enjoy this site very much and get a good laugh and some vital info. on up to date stuff for the deaf and h.o.ho. thanks, Mrs. KathyLee Lutsko

 

[Vance]

If it is important and useful I would. I wouldn't share it just to be annoying or hurtful.

I wouldn't either. But sometimes it can offend others regardless of how useful information will be...even if it is quite harmless to our eyes. In one of old topics, it wasn't my intention to hurt or offend (I only want to help) yet one of them acted that I was trying to hurt or offend. One of reasons why I decided to stop or extremely rare to post the medical articles in Health forum. I have no way to know if it do or do not offend them. Eve created a excellent topic, "Friends". There was a good discussion about "thick skin" and "thin skin" subject.

As you have noticed in other threads, I have already shared the Gospel with ADers, and many people feel that is offensive. I don't share the Gospel to hurt people. I share it because it is important and useful.

I gather that I am not only one in this situation heh I mean, I share these because I feel that it is important for them to know too and it is never my intention to hurt or offend others. Honestly, I often appreciate with what you did because you have more courage than I do when voice your opinions or share the information with others.

My hubby and I share all the same beliefs about important things, so I can't think of anything off-hand that I could say that would offend him. There might be something but I really can't think of anything.

Okay. That was just a general question. I was wondering if anyone ever been in that situation when their lovers offended by the information when they shared with them. So far, Nas haven't. I am lucky enough to have a open-minded gal like Nas. Sure, her opinions sometimes make me scratch my head but I often took her opinions/views into account.

Maybe you need to give me an example of a situation.

At this moment, I cannot think any good example to offer but here it is:

'A' Mother found the information with several references about one item in the magazine which revealed that it will harm the children in long run. 'A' mother made a decision to not buy the item anymore.

In next day, 'A' mother wants to share with her friend, 'B' mother of two children in next door to help but she unknowingly that 'B' mother is a huge fan of that item or strongly believe that item does help her children. Once 'A' mother shared with her friend in nice way by showing her the article plus encourage her to read the article then was shocked by 'B' mother's angry comments and tell 'A' mother to get out of her house.

In reality, it happened many times in America. Is it wrong for 'A' mother to share the information with her friend, 'B' mother about the side effect of that item because it offend her beliefs or her opinions? Or should 'A' mother shut up about it so she can keep her friendship with 'B' mother?

 

[The*Empress]

I am curious about your views/opinions of this subject... There are several questions that I'd like to ask some of you. I don't know if this topic is in right forum or not...

When and if you acquire the knowledges and/or facts and what will you do with these?:

1) Acknowledge it and use it to improve your lifestyle, your child(ren), your lover, anything that is part of your life?

Yeah, I would say it and freak the children or lover out. So they won't bother to try anything wicked.

2) Dismiss it when it offends your beliefs or your lover/relatives tell you so?...

Nope, I would use my beliefs and my wisdom... tell them
everything about my past. And all the horrible mistake I made. What I
learn from other people.

3) What about this, would you share the facts or knowledges with your friends, co-workers or your relatives even if you know that they will completely oppose or probably get angry at you?...

Yes, I don't care if they will hate me for it, I will show them proof.

4) Did you ever make a decision to not share the knowledges or facts with others because it will offend their beliefs or their opinions? Have it ever happen to you before?...

Nope, I rather tell others everything....

Knowledges/facts can be from anywhere/anything. Books, magazines, journals, medical articles, rumors, gossips, TV, movies, etc etc...

My mom didn't know there was such thing as anus sex, and she was grossed by it. And I told my mom that I touch a snake's mouth... and she was mad at me for doing that. I was brave in front of my strict religious relatives...
and told them about Astrology.
I feel some people don't like me because I have a lot of confidence and not afraid to speak out how I feel....

 

[Malfoyish]

Magatsu,

Very good and thought-provoking thread.

I would say for the first one - if positive facts are acquired and I do believe my spouse and children could benefit from it, I would certainly incorporate it into daily lifestyle. An example of this - (and this is probably not true, since I'm doing what I do best and pulling random thoughts off the top of my head) would be "Bike riding daily during the summer helps keep pounds off." If I were to see something like this (as a proven fact) I would certainly make an effort to get everyone motivated to do so.

Secondly - I would only dismiss it if the knowledge was rejected by the rest of the family. Not because I am controllable, of course, but because if it's not fun for all to embrace this knowledge, then it loses its worth...there IS also the rare case of kids being too young or simply uninterested in such physical activity. (using the above example) So, instead of getting frustrated, perhaps it is better to find an alternative activity - or rather, more knowledge!

And thirdly - yes, I would share the knowledge. The worst someone else can do is say they are not interested. A plus is the fact that they can also turn around, (even though they are not showing any interest for it) and say "hey, you know what I heard from so-and-so? You can try keeping those summer pounds off by riding a mile or so on your bike every day!" How long does it take to share a few seconds' worth of knowledge? If one is upset by your information-sharing, a simple "all right, never mind" will suffice. Life goes on. But personally, yes, I would share anything that I feel is worthy of sharing.

Hope this is sufficient!

 

[Reba]

'A' Mother found the information with several references about one item in the magazine which revealed that it will harm the children in long run. 'A' mother made a decision to not buy the item anymore.

In next day, 'A' mother wants to share with her friend, 'B' mother of two children in next door to help but she unknowingly that 'B' mother is a huge fan of that item or strongly believe that item does help her children. Once 'A' mother shared with her friend in nice way by showing her the article plus encourage her to read the article then was shocked by 'B' mother's angry comments and tell 'A' mother to get out of her house.

In reality, it happened many times in America. Is it wrong for 'A' mother to share the information with her friend, 'B' mother about the side effect of that item because it offend her beliefs or her opinions? Or should 'A' mother shut up about it so she can keep her friendship with 'B' mother?

Some possibilities:

1. depends on how tactfully the information was presented; what was the presenter's attitude (I know that you said "in nice way" but not everyone agrees what "nice" means)
2. mothers are very defensive about anything relating to the way they raise their children; that means even extra tact and carefullness is required
3. maybe mom 'B' is just having a bad day, and later has time to calmly think about the situation
4. is this the first time mom 'A' gave unsolicited advice to mom 'B', or does mom 'A' do this every week on a new topic

 

[Vance]

Magatsu,

Very good and thought-provoking thread.

I would say for the first one - if positive facts are acquired and I do believe my spouse and children could benefit from it, I would certainly incorporate it into daily lifestyle. An example of this - (and this is probably not true, since I'm doing what I do best and pulling random thoughts off the top of my head) would be "Bike riding daily during the summer helps keep pounds off." If I were to see something like this (as a proven fact) I would certainly make an effort to get everyone motivated to do so.

Secondly - I would only dismiss it if the knowledge was rejected by the rest of the family. Not because I am controllable, of course, but because if it's not fun for all to embrace this knowledge, then it loses its worth...there IS also the rare case of kids being too young or simply uninterested in such physical activity. (using the above example) So, instead of getting frustrated, perhaps it is better to find an alternative activity - or rather, more knowledge!

Your post is very helpful! Thanks for adding your views in here

A plus is the fact that they can also turn around, (even though they are not showing any interest for it) and say "hey, you know what I heard from so-and-so? You can try keeping those summer pounds off by riding a mile or so on your bike every day!"

Yes, that's entirely true. Some of these people eventually will turn around and show some interest for it. Even if they acquire the knowledges, they may will not use it to incorporate these into their lifestyles. My good friend often gave the 'very informative' books away to his friends but he knows that it is higher chance they will not read or leave it on somewhere else and let them collect the dusts. He told me that only he can do is give the books away and leave it up to them to read or not because he did his part and that's it (btw, he is a doctor & my professor). He and I often discussed about this 'knowledge' situations. He brought up a good question in the past, which most people would choose to read the informative book which often will help/improve their lifestyles or watch the entertaining movie/TV when given a choice?

How long does it take to share a few seconds' worth of knowledge? If one is upset by your information-sharing, a simple "all right, never mind" will suffice. Life goes on. But personally, yes, I would share anything that I feel is worthy of sharing.

Yep. That's what I did whenever they dismiss or something like that, I often say "never mind" or try to divert their attention to something else with offtopic subjects.

Some possibilities:

1. depends on how tactfully the information was presented; what was the presenter's attitude (I know that you said "in nice way" but not everyone agrees what "nice" means)
2. mothers are very defensive about anything relating to the way they raise their children; that means even extra tact and carefullness is required
3. maybe mom 'B' is just having a bad day, and later has time to calmly think about the situation
4. is this the first time mom 'A' gave unsolicited advice to mom 'B', or does mom 'A' do this every week on a new topic

You have good points... To answer your fourth question, I am not sure what did my neighbor do but I believe it was her first time to show her friend the article in next door. I will ask her whenever I can see her or she is not busy.

I want to discuss a bit about yours:

2. mothers are very defensive about anything relating to the way they raise their children; that means even extra tact and carefullness is required

That is a good point. I frequently am lurking & posting at one of "mothering" communities, I can notice that whenever 'A' mother posted the article or bring up a interesting topic then suddenly slammed by other 'D' - 'M' mothers. You are right about that part. I am a male and I don't have any faint idea what I should or what I shouldn't say or post but I am learning slowly though... That is somewhat frustrating because I have these knowledges that I would love to share but I can't. My mother frequently mentioned to me that she is frustrated that she have to 'hold back' her knowledges because most of the time, it will end up making other mothers to put on defense. She eventually gives up and shared with her good friends plus some of us (included some relatives like my cousins). Or waiting for these people to ask my mother for help which they often do that when their children didn't get any better or something. Unfortunately that's only way to do that, so far.

This quote says everything: "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off." -- Gloria Steinem


Miss*Pinocchio, thanks for response! I can notice that you approach us in your own unique way with these informations. I am not saying that it is bad but you have the certain way to get our attention faster than it should be.

 

[The*Empress]

"Miss*Pinocchio, thanks for response! I can notice that you approach us in your own unique way with these informations. I am not saying that it is bad but you have the certain way to get our attention faster than it should be."


Well it is better than to have your children go out and trying to explore, learning everything the hard way...
If I have a son, and if he is confused about his sexual orientation, I can help him out...
Take him to the gay bar, and see what is going on there...
and tell him what gay men do in bed, and alll... and
if he likes it or not like it, then that his decision.

And have him talk to transgender and all the different people...
And I will take him all over the world, travel and educate him everything...
so he won't ever ever ever be confused about who he is.

Knowledge is important, than ignorant.