Jack Kevorkian a.k.a Dr Death has died.

I heard he spent most of his time in prision in the hole because he kept smuggling shoe laces in. :dunno:
 
Jiro said:
and that video itself is what made Americans reconsider about this issue once again. Because of that - we finally passed Death with Dignity Act. More and more states are passing it. Now I can rest assured, knowing that I have the rights to end my life if my pain is too much for me to live on.

You know who is a sick murderer in here? You are. You murdered me with your idealism. and you're a sicko because you enjoy watching me suffering with a tremendous amount of pain and you want me to die with agony. That is sick.

something to consider - if a patient is religious, he/she cannot do it himself. It would be considered as suicide... a sinful act. The law allows a patient to have a designated person to do it for him/her. How merciful this law is....
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Nobody likes to watch someone suffer nor does anyone likes to suffer. But suffering is part of life. It's easy to run away from suffering, but it takes bravery to endure it to the end.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
Nobody likes to watch someone suffer nor does anyone likes to suffer. But suffering is part of life. It's easy to run away from suffering, but it takes bravery to endure it to the end.

Yiz
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and you want all of us to believe in your belief?
 
yizuman said:
Nobody likes to watch someone suffer nor does anyone likes to suffer. But suffering is part of life. It's easy to run away from suffering, but it takes bravery to endure it to the end.

Yiz
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It's a matter of degree. When there is nothing but suffering, what is the point of that?
 
yizuman said:
Nobody likes to watch someone suffer nor does anyone likes to suffer. But suffering is part of life. It's easy to run away from suffering, but it takes bravery to endure it to the end.

Yiz
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Thank goodness for Living Wills.
 
After witnessing my father being ravaged by metatasized cancer both physically and mentally over a period of months and knowing he wanted to die so badly, I would be the first to call Dr. Kevorkian if what happened to him was happening to me. It's far too cruel to allow someone to suffer for that long.
 
Jiro said:
and that video itself is what made Americans reconsider about this issue once again. Because of that - we finally passed Death with Dignity Act. More and more states are passing it. Now I can rest assured, knowing that I have the rights to end my life if my pain is too much for me to live on.

You know who is a sick murderer in here? You are. You murdered me with your idealism. and you're a sicko because you enjoy watching me suffering with a tremendous amount of pain and you want me to die with agony. That is sick.

something to consider - if a patient is religious, he/she cannot do it himself. It would be considered as suicide... a sinful act. The law allows a patient to have a designated person to do it for him/her. How merciful this law is....
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What state are you in that the law allows a designated person to actually do the killing? I don't think that's quite how it works. Even in Oregon, as I understand it the patient him or herself has to actually drink the concoction or do an injection; the doctor cannot be the one to administer the final injection or lift the glass so the person can drink.

I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it.
 
I felt sad upon learning of Dr. Kevorkian's death. He was a real character and forced people to squarely face the prospect of ending one's own life. People will always seek suicide as a way out of unbearable pain, and I support the means to do it with dignity.
My parents are around 90 and not in much pain as of yet. But if either one or both of them ask for my help in ending their lives, I would humbly respect their wishes.
 
Beach girl said:
What state are you in that the law allows a designated person to actually do the killing? I don't think that's quite how it works. Even in Oregon, as I understand it the patient him or herself has to actually drink the concoction or do an injection; the doctor cannot be the one to administer the final injection or lift the glass so the person can drink.

I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it.
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Currently - doctors cannot do it. Only oneself or a chosen one.

more information - Frequently Asked Questions | Death with Dignity Act
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Thank goodness for Living Wills.
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Living Wills can refuse extraordinary treatment to keep yourself alive; I don't think they can specifically request physician-assisted suicide.

A very good organization is something called "Five Wishes."

Aging With Dignity Five Wishes

My husband and I did this as I was preparing to retire. The document is quite thorough, and forces you to really think through what you would want under what circumstances. It also forces you to think about whom you would want to make final decisions; your spouse or your children might not always be the best person to make the choice, especially if their views are not the same as yours regarding end-of-life issues, or if you think it might emotionally be too difficult for them.

It can be a very thought-provoking conversation to have with your nearest and dearest.
 
same thing for people put animals to sleep because of animals suffer or people cant afford medical expenses. I don't blame for those people who are desperate of getting rid of themselve due to being in pain or can't afford to get better but waiting to die slowly. So It was DR. JK who can help those people who are in desperate to being rest in peace. :dunno:
 
yizuman said:
Nobody likes to watch someone suffer nor does anyone likes to suffer. But suffering is part of life. It's easy to run away from suffering, but it takes bravery to endure it to the end.

Yiz
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Famous last words. Again, I pray for you to not suffer at the end or else you will have a very rude awakening.
 
You forget that Doctors are sworn with the Hippocratic Oath and the first thing they say is.... "Do No Harm".

Doctors aren't supposed to be in the business of taking a life....

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
You forget that Doctors are sworn with the Hippocratic Oath and the first thing they say is.... "Do No Harm".

Doctors aren't supposed to be in the business of taking a life....

Yiz
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Death isn't harmful.
 
yizuman said:
You forget that Doctors are sworn with the Hippocratic Oath and the first thing they say is.... "Do No Harm".

Doctors aren't supposed to be in the business of taking a life....

Yiz
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Death is apart of life, and, a person should have the right to decide for themselves how aggressive they want their medical care to be in the event of a terminal illness.
 
Beach girl said:
Living Wills can refuse extraordinary treatment to keep yourself alive; I don't think they can specifically request physician-assisted suicide.

A very good organization is something called "Five Wishes."

Aging With Dignity Five Wishes

My husband and I did this as I was preparing to retire. The document is quite thorough, and forces you to really think through what you would want under what circumstances. It also forces you to think about whom you would want to make final decisions; your spouse or your children might not always be the best person to make the choice, especially if their views are not the same as yours regarding end-of-life issues, or if you think it might emotionally be too difficult for them.

It can be a very thought-provoking conversation to have with your nearest and dearest.
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You're right. It is up to the individual to decide how much, if any, life sustaining measures they want.
 
yizuman said:
You forget that Doctors are sworn with the Hippocratic Oath and the first thing they say is.... "Do No Harm".

Doctors aren't supposed to be in the business of taking a life....

Yiz
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Doctors aren't supposed to be in business of prolonging one's suffering either.

Palliative Care. that's also part of Hippocratic Oath.
 
I have always been passionate about palliative care since I faced many life threatening illnesses in my lifetime. I have to say I vehmently disagree with Yiz's statement regarding suffering building character. One should NOT have to endure intense suffering while dying. I believe this even more strongly now than I ever have before, because, my Dad has a terminal illness that will result in his death in a relatively short amt of time. His condition is stable right now, but there will come a point where his LW will be invoked and he will pass away. I hope to God that when that time comes, he will NOT be in agony. I do not want that for him. I do not want that for myself. I do not want that for ANYONE.

I also think a lot of people form opinions without any regard to first hand experience. Until you know what it is like to watch someone suffering or experience someone with a terminal illness, you really do not have a clue what it is like. It is NOT a linear event. There are ups and downs. As my Dad first indicated when we found out he was ill, "I'm on the long and winding road". He was right. IT IS a long and winding road, and, there are no detours.
 
Jiro said:
Doctors aren't supposed to be in business of prolonging one's suffering either.

Palliative Care. that's also part of Hippocratic Oath.
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Palliative care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing there that says "death" is part of a Palliative Care policy. Although the wordings "relief from pain" is in part of the medical policy, but nothing that says "death" is part of that policy. Although the policy is to provide comfort in the event of eminent death, but nothing from the policy that states that "hastening death" (on purpose) is part of that policy.

Yiz
 
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