Is Islam a Threat?

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Teresh said:
That's nice. That doesn't give you the right to pervert the meaning of other religions. If you don't want people to misinterpret Christianity, do not do it to other religions, lest you will reap what you sow.
Me, misinterpret other religion? I don't think so. Enough of your accusation.
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Me, misinterpret other religion? I don't think so. Enough of your accusation.

You complain of Muslims misinterpret Christianity and yet right here in this thread you have misinterpreted Islam. You're no different from them.
 
Teresh said:
You complain of Muslims misinterpret Christianity and yet right here in this thread you have misinterpreted Islam. You're no different from them.

Hey Teresh -- Show me who Allah really is, if you have a link .....
 
Teresh said:
You complain of Muslims misinterpret Christianity and yet right here in this thread you have misinterpreted Islam. You're no different from them.
I don't think you understand what I said. Easier english: people like you with humanist, gay approval , living together outside of marriage, pornos and etc, they thought christian approve of that. Why? They think America is a "christian" nation as by saying american is a christian which it isn't. Christian fight for moral value, humanist fight for immoral values. Remember, immoral is not just about sex.
 
CyberRed said:
Hey Teresh -- Show me who Allah really is, if you have a link .....

I don't need to show you "who Allah really is". You believe in God, no? If you don't believe in God, then you can't be a Christian. As you've always claimed to be an adherent of that religion, I'll assume that you believe in God.

Allah is just another of the many names for God. Muslims worship the same God that you do.

If you don't believe in Allah, you can't be a Christian as Allah is just another name for the God of Adam, of Noah, of Avraham, of Moses, of David, of Jesus, of Mohammed and, indeed, of you and I that Jews and Christians also worship.

hottiedeafboi said:
I don't think you understand what I said. Easier english: people like you with humanist, gay approval , living together outside of marriage, pornos and etc, they thought christian approve of that.

No one things conservative Christians approve of those things. Indeed, you demonstrate by your actions that you DON'T.

hottiedeafboi said:
Why? They think America is a "christian" nation as by saying american is a christian which it isn't.

America is a secular nation of freedom where freedom of religion is held dear. It is conservative Christians who have typically said that America is a Christian nation.

hottiedeafboi said:
Christian fight for moral value, humanist fight for immoral values. Remember, immoral is not just about sex.

Liberals fight for freedom and equality. Christians, at least of the conservative variety, are opposed to those American values. Morality or lack thereof does not factor into it.
 
When I was in a mission trip to the strong hindus and islamic country. That's what they frear, when christian comes, thinking that we bring immoral influental and thinking that christian believes sex outside of marriage and homosexuals and whatever you feel about it, do it and etc. We as christians has fought to keep moral value firm, but failed. Its ongoing battle. And yes, many loves christian people and no, Allah they worship is not same God we worship. Its a different god. Some called moon god. You gonna have to understand, different religion worship different view of gods. If you look at the top of their mosque, there is a moon and a star. Some islamic worship Allah as of jihad god. Believe by surrender or die.
 
hottiedeafboi said:
And yes, many loves christian people and no, Allah they worship is not same God we worship. Its a different god. Some called moon god.

You're misinformed there. Unfortunately, you lack the knowledge necessary to understand that. Why don't you go actually learn about Islam before you start making invalid statements about it?

hottiedeafboi said:
You gonna have to understand, different religion worship different view of gods.

Islam is based entirely on Judaism and Christianity. Are there different opinions? Yes, but when the opinions come from the same source, it's irrational to say that they could be too different. You don't understand Islam, so you assume it must worship a different God. You're mistaken and that's all there is to it.

You don't understand Judaism either--Are you going to claim that the Jews worship a different God?

hottiedeafboi said:
If you look at the top of their mosque, there is a moon and a star.

And if you look at the top of most churches, you'll see a cross. It's a religious symbol. Are the Jews not worshiping God because they've adoped the Shield of David as their symbol?

hottiedeafboi said:
Some islamic worship Allah as of jihad god. Believe by surrender or die.

And the Christians who slaughtered every Jew and Muslim in Jerusalem during the Crusades, exterminated the Jews in Spain and later in Germany all worshipped Jesus as the Crusade God. Believe in Jesus or die. Your religion is no less guilty of evil committed in the name of God.
 
I'm sure people who are like Hottiedeafboi would go crazy if they have seen Da Vinci Code because Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. The film is fiction, but who knows it might be true.

If you want to learn more about Islam, rent a film called Wall by Simone Bitton. They have it in Blockbuster and Hollywood movies. I consult you to rent the movie before you come here to post anything about Islam or even accuse those muslims. I advise to watch this film before you guys make up your mind.

I took two courses on middle eastern histories and one course on gender/women writers in middle eastern studies.
 
Teresh said:
You're misinformed there. Unfortunately, you lack the knowledge necessary to understand that. Why don't you go actually learn about Islam before you start making invalid statements about it?



Islam is based entirely on Judaism and Christianity. Are there different opinions? Yes, but when the opinions come from the same source, it's irrational to say that they could be too different. You don't understand Islam, so you assume it must worship a different God. You're mistaken and that's all there is to it.

You don't understand Judaism either--Are you going to claim that the Jews worship a different God?



And if you look at the top of most churches, you'll see a cross. It's a religious symbol. Are the Jews not worshiping God because they've adoped the Shield of David as their symbol?



And the Christians who slaughtered every Jew and Muslim in Jerusalem during the Crusades, exterminated the Jews in Spain and later in Germany all worshipped Jesus as the Crusade God. Believe in Jesus or die. Your religion is no less guilty of evil committed in the name of God.
Well, I aquainted with hindus and islams and also you think you know about islam and the jews worship same God we worship. And the way throughout the thread you think you know about christians, but as what I see, you still lacking. Plus, be great, if I go visit my hometown and the church I used to go, he is a awesome christian guy. He was raised islamic family. And be cool to see his side of beliefs bec there are islam believes differently.
 
About Semitic languages, I saw this fact today:

El, Allah, and Ilah (the last from a language I'm not sure if it's still spoken these days...Canaanite? Phoenician?) are words that all come from the same root word. They all mean "God". In the case of Allah, it could also be written Al-lah: "the God".

So basically, "Allah" is how you say the Hebrew word "El" in Arabic.

Also, in the nation of Malta, which speaks an Arabic dialect, the word "Alla" is used to refer to the Christian God. I know this bit from a Maltese person and I can't vouch for the Christians in other Arabic-speaking nations...but I at least know about one Arabic dialect.
 
Cane Corso said:
I'm sure people who are like Hottiedeafboi would go crazy if they have seen Da Vinci Code because Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. The film is fiction, but who knows it might be true.

If you want to learn more about Islam, rent a film called Wall by Simone Bitton. They have it in Blockbuster and Hollywood movies. I consult you to rent the movie before you come here to post anything about Islam or even accuse those muslims. I advise to watch this film before you guys make up your mind.

I took two courses on middle eastern histories and one course on gender/women writers in middle eastern studies.
Correct, davinci is fiction and the fact is Jesus never married. Also, knowing what crusaders and islam incident you can see the movie, "Kingdom of Heaven". Get this, called christian killed jews and islam, is not how that happppen or get the whole story, that movie will get you an idea what has happen. Taking advantage and put the blame and make a laugh about christians is appalling.
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Well, I aquainted with hindus and islams and also you think you know about islam and the jews worship same God we worship. And the way throughout the thread you think you know about christians, but as what I see, you still lacking. Plus, be great, if I go visit my hometown and the church I used to go, he is a awesome christian guy. He was raised islamic family. And be cool to see his side of beliefs bec there are islam believes differently.

I know pretty good about Islam and their cultures. I have spoken to many Muslims and my boyfriend's best friend is a Muslim. Both Muslims and Christians believe in one same GOD. Both religions do not worship more than one God. We all speak different languages. Allah is an Arabic terminology for God. If you look up in the dictionary, you will find the same word that mean same as a God. Teresh knows quite a lot about different religions and she has more credits than you do. She has proven herself many times she is an intelligent young woman with a brilliant education. My opinion, she has an excellent English writing and reading comprehension skills than you do.
 
Hi Teresh, You really misinterpreted that there is no violence in the Qur'an and you are very seriously mistaken. Islamic terrorists attacked us on American soil as well as before that as far back as 1983, Beirut that I can remember of and Quite frankly, Teresh ..... I still can not believe you said there is no violence in the Qur'an.

Here is a video clip of actual events that happened in Israel. Subtitles included. Clean video clip, no blood or gore ok ?

Watch to see what happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz-BFq6G7Ac&mode=related&search=
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Correct, davinci is fiction and the fact is Jesus never married. Also, knowing what crusaders and islam incident you can see the movie, "Kingdom of Heaven". Get this, called christian killed jews and islam, is not how that happppen or get the whole story, that movie will get you an idea what has happen. Taking advantage and put the blame and make a laugh about christians is appalling.


Islam is a religion. You don't call people Islam, but you call them Muslims. If you knew enough about Islam, you would have pronounced it properly.
 
Heath said:
Hi Teresh, You really misinterpreted that there is no violence in the Qur'an and you are very seriously mistaken. Islamic terrorists attacked us on American soil as well as before that as far back as 1983, Beirut that I can remember of and Quite frankly, Teresh ..... I still can not believe you said there is no violence in the Qur'an.

Here is a video clip of actual events that happened in Israel. Subtitles included. Clean video clip, no blood or gore ok ?

Watch to see what happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz-BFq6G7Ac&mode=related&search=


I will be back and Iwill discuss about Quran, I am going to explain a few things about iit. I m sure it will clear up confusions about those terrorists. I have to swim with Riley now. I need to excrise one of his legs from a surgery
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Also, knowing what crusaders and islam incident you can see the movie, "Kingdom of Heaven". Get this, called christian killed jews and islam, is not how that happppen or get the whole story, that movie will get you an idea what has happen. Taking advantage and put the blame and make a laugh about christians is appalling.

Get this: Kingdom of Heaven is fiction too.

You're not getting the whole story from a fictional film. Like it or not, the Crusaders *did* slaughter every non-Christian in Jerusalem when they gained control over it. Ignoring that fact does not mean that it didn't happen.
 
Well, as it goes, its interesting how we met different culture in islam believes differently. Well, I won't teresh maybe, but not attitude plus Reba is smart as well, but good attitude. Now I'm confuse, you said teresh is a she and other said its a he. Which is it. But no, the reason you said highly of teresh is bec , whomever is a christian, that's who you talked and mocked about and don't use wrong perspective about me, bec I was in those cultural, buti was in trinidad and tobago where there are strong believes. Not only that, when I pperformed in music in sign language there, one very devout islam woman came to watch and been told she never smile all those years till after I performed, she came up to me with glowed face of smile and her sons was thrilled, bec her twin sons are christians and she said, sure this place fill the presence of your God. Did I force her to believe or anything like that? NO. Why? Its God's work in her life. I ve been received further noticed that their mom wondering how I was and also, tho she keeps her faith bec family tradition. She still has discerned spirit and knowing if Christ really the One. But I don't know how she is now, bec its been a while. I'm a christian, but not conservative and neither as liberal. Bec I kept seeing all the wrong views of christians and bad improper language and twisting the blame whomever they stand. Its not really about christian, its just dispitedul against christians. And not only that, I don't make people believe. I have a liberal friend read this post, me twisting and stuff? She laughed and thought wow, and even she admit, is teresh a girl or a boy I said I don't know and what about netrox and I said I believe its a guy. She said both of them are so rude talk. I said, I know, I'm glad you'd seeing that. She and I have different views and she said, I'm very easy to talk to and shared and even she thinks, online lead a lot of misunderstanding and I said, I agree and even I sadi that.
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Well, as it goes, its interesting how we met different culture in islam believes differently. Well, I won't teresh maybe, but not attitude plus Reba is smart as well, but good attitude. Now I'm confuse, you said teresh is a she and other said its a he. Which is it. But no, the reason you said highly of teresh is bec , whomever is a christian, that's who you talked and mocked about and don't use wrong perspective about me, bec I was in those cultural, buti was in trinidad and tobago where there are strong believes. Not only that, when I pperformed in music in sign language there, one very devout islam woman came to watch and been told she never smile all those years till after I performed, she came up to me with glowed face of smile and her sons was thrilled, bec her twin sons are christians and she said, sure this place fill the presence of your God. Did I force her to believe or anything like that? NO. Why? Its God's work in her life. I ve been received further noticed that their mom wondering how I was and also, tho she keeps her faith bec family tradition. She still has discerned spirit and knowing if Christ really the One. But I don't know how she is now, bec its been a while. I'm a christian, but not conservative and neither as liberal. Bec I kept seeing all the wrong views of christians and bad improper language and twisting the blame whomever they stand. Its not really about christian, its just dispitedul against christians. And not only that, I don't make people believe. I have a liberal friend read this post, me twisting and stuff? She laughed and thought wow, and even she admit, is teresh a girl or a boy I said I don't know and what about netrox and I said I believe its a guy. She said both of them are so rude talk. I said, I know, I'm glad you'd seeing that. She and I have different views and she said, I'm very easy to talk to and shared and even she thinks, online lead a lot of misunderstanding and I said, I agree and even I sadi that.

If you are interested to learn more about Islam, I highly suggest you to take a class like middle eastern studies. It teaches you many things about the religion itself than you can speak to many people about. Not everyone is an islam expert here and you won't learn everything from me by telling you what they are all about. If you spoke to a muslim person about the religion, you may learn a few things. You will not learn the rich information about it because you need to dig up. You have to get your hands on like read those books written by people who live in those areas. Saudi Arabia is not same as Jordan or Lebanon. Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and Turkey are more democratic than Saudi Arabia. Women do have more freedom in those countries.

Islam is one religion kind of title, but there are endless lists on what kind of worshipers they are like Sunnis, Shis, Shitties, etc. You can't label them all together as Islam because they all do not believe in the same thing. They translate the Koran in a different way just like Christians do. Sunnis and Shittes hate each other so much and they fight daily. Just like those fighting between Protestant and Catholic in Northern Ireland.
 
Teresh said:
I don't need to show you "who Allah really is". You believe in God, no? If you don't believe in God, then you can't be a Christian. As you've always claimed to be an adherent of that religion, I'll assume that you believe in God.

Allah is just another of the many names for God. Muslims worship the same God that you do.

If you don't believe in Allah, you can't be a Christian as Allah is just another name for the God of Adam, of Noah, of Avraham, of Moses, of David, of Jesus, of Mohammed and, indeed, of you and I that Jews and Christians also worship.

Teresh, I don't worship Muslims' god. Muslims' god and the true believers' God are not the same. I don't believe the same as you do. I don't believe in Mohammed, either ... that's different god from the true believers'. Their doctrine is different from the true believers'. Both of Christianity and Muslims' doctrines are entirely different. Same goes with Catholic, because of its Catchism ( sp ?? )... Catholic's doctrine is different, too. They worship the Virgin Mary ( statue ). Hindu worship Shaman ( sp ?? ) statue. And, now I heard that Mormon worship Bail. For Illuminati, they worship Phoenix ( more than 7 feet high statue ). There's a Satan church and they worship Satan as their god. So, are you tellin' me that Satan and God are the same God as one eh ?

You can't say that I am not Christian, if I don't worship the same god as their god.

I prefer to worship Jesus Christ, the Breathin' Word as my God. Jesus Christ is not a statue that I worship. I don't need to see somethin' to draw to. I believe in faith without seein' Him, knowin' that He is there/in my heart. He is right here beside me. I believe that He is always with me - never forsake me.

Why it is necessary for other different religions to worship their statues as if, it don't talk, or see, or breathe, or anythin' that is livin' like THE REAL GOD is ?
It only brings them their devil they worship without bein' aware of it. They may say it is magic or wonder and thought it was from their god, but really it was the devil's works. I still don't agree with you things that you believe or say.
 
Teresh said:
...Allah is just another of the many names for God. Muslims worship the same God that you do.
No, it isn't, and no, they don't.

"Allah" is NOT part of the Triune Godhead of the Heavenly Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
 
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