Is a 'Normal' life always better?

Is a 'Normal' life always better then a disabled life?

  • Yes. I always wish I wasn't disabled.

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Yes, but I don't consider deafness as a disability.

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • It depends on the disability in question.

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • It depends on the lifestyle of the 'normal person' in question.

    Votes: 8 34.8%

  • No. The disabled can do anything with the right support and rehabilitation.

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • No. The challanges in my life makes life worth living.

    Votes: 10 43.5%

  • Other.

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Total voters
    23
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Is a normal life always better then a disabled one. Personally I think that it depends on the life in question but sometimes a disabled life can actually be better then a normal life.

Some people hate their jobs but they feel trapped into staying. So in that sense disabled people who get benifit's are frier to persue their chosen career then a 'normal' person would be. Plus some disabilities are not all that limiting given the right levels of education and rehabilition the person gets.
 
You shouldn't judge yourself or others the way we live our life disabled or not. We are only humans. Speaking of normal life, I'm living my life normally and to say the least, yes, we feel trapped in our own world just because we can't hear and we are not normal? No, we should be happy with the life that had be given to us. We have a god-given talent and we can do do anything what a 'normal' person could do. We are no different from them. But we have more limitations than hearing people. But it doesn't mean they are better than us just because we are disabled? Sure we do fight for our life in order for a better future, our wills to survive life and understanding the world. It isn't a easy task, it never was...
 
Nathan said:
You shouldn't judge yourself or others the way we live our life disabled or not. We are only humans. Speaking of normal life, I'm living my life normally and to say the least, yes, we feel trapped in our own world just because we can't hear and we are not normal? No, we should be happy with the life that had be given to us. We have a god-given talent and we can do do anything what a 'normal' person could do. We are no different from them. But we have more limitations than hearing people. But it doesn't mean they are better than us just because we are disabled? Sure we do fight for our life in order for a better future, our wills to survive life and understanding the world. It isn't a easy task, it never was...
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I agree although there are several other ways of being trapped. Some non disabled people are trapped by a drug dependancy, an abusive relationship or a job they are unable to leave because of extreme dept.

My reason for posting this question is because on another thread that has now been closed down, some people were saying that it wasa ok to kill the disabled since their lives were not worth as much so I wanted to know how widespread this view was amongst the disabled themselves.
 
dreama said:
I agree although there are several other ways of being trapped. Some non disabled people are trapped by a drug dependancy, an abusive relationship or a job they are unable to leave because of extreme dept.

My reason for posting this question is because on another thread that has now been closed down, some people were saying that it wasa ok to kill the disabled since their lives were not worth as much so I wanted to know how widespread this view was amongst the disabled themselves.
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Maybe just because they went into the wrong path. Life is a sacrifice itself. Life is worth living.
 
I really object to the use of the word "normal" to describe the non-disabled population. That implies that the disabled population is abnormal. Normal is subjective, and just because something is usual for the majority does not make it normal for the individual. For instance, for a hearing person, being able to perceive sound is a normal experience for them. For a deaf individual, not being able to perceive sound is a normal experience for them. To use such a lable to divide the disabled population from the non-disabled population simply serves to widen the divide and increase the stereotypes and the discrimination. Using such language gives credence to te attitudes that you are supposedly fighting against.
 
jillio said:
I really object to the use of the word "normal" to describe the non-disabled population. That implies that the disabled population is abnormal. Normal is subjective, and just because something is usual for the majority does not make it normal for the individual. For instance, for a hearing person, being able to perceive sound is a normal experience for them. For a deaf individual, not being able to perceive sound is a normal experience for them. To use such a lable to divide the disabled population from the non-disabled population simply serves to widen the divide and increase the stereotypes and the discrimination. Using such language gives credence to te attitudes that you are supposedly fighting against.
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Typical?
 
How about we pose the question differently? How about: "If a magic fairy from Lala Land tells you that he can give you a chance to be able to hear EXACTLY like a hearing person, would you think that life will be better from now on if you took that chance?"

This is different because it gives you a chance to hear AFTER experiencing life as a deaf person. It won't change who you are, whereas if you try to imagine life as a hearing person, you may have a totally different personality. So you can't really compare life with hearing vs without. For example, I like math and science. It came easily to me during high school since the classes had a lot of visualization. What if I weren't deaf, and it turned out that I really enjoy poetry and writing musical lyrics? My life would be totally different, since I am an engineer......
 
No I do not consider my disability as a demise. It's more of a blessing to me - no such thing as "normal" life. I can tell you there are handful of hearing people who are envious of me and probably of you as well. Hearing or not, most of them are like a drone - work and home in a little lousy cubicle where they are of no importance to anyone.

Perks of Disabled Person -
1. Disability Discount
2. We are much more aware of our surroundings and to other people's feeling
3. We "listen" to people better than non-disabled people
4. We sleep well at night
5. We're a tough fighter

Hearing or not. Ambulatory or not. Blind or not. Limb or not. It's of no importance if you are an important person who can perform the job better than others. Believe me - the company will pay ANYTHING to keep you. to hire you. That's why my dad always tell me - be the best in the field that nobody can beat you. Be smart with money... earn a lot... save up... and you can retire a happy disabled person at much earlier age than many hearing people :cool2:

Yes there are some moments when I get depressed because of my shortcoming and missed opportunities but so what? I want to be a cop but I can't. So what? I can be a scientist or whatever in LEO field.
 
Jiro said:
No I do not consider my disability as a demise. It's more of a blessing to me - no such thing as "normal" life. I can tell you there are handful of hearing people who are envious of me and probably of you as well. Hearing or not, most of them are like a drone - work and home in a little lousy cubicle where they are of no importance to anyone.

Perks of Disabled Person -
1. Disability Discount
2. We are much more aware of our surroundings and to other people's feeling
3. We "listen" to people better than non-disabled people
4. We sleep well at night
5. We're a tough fighter

Hearing or not. Ambulatory or not. Blind or not. Limb or not. It's of no importance if you are an important person who can perform the job better than others. Believe me - the company will pay ANYTHING to keep you. to hire you. That's why my dad always tell me - be the best in the field that nobody can beat you. Be smart with money... earn a lot... save up... and you can retire a happy disabled person at much earlier age than many hearing people :cool2:

Yes there are some moments when I get depressed because of my shortcoming and missed opportunities but so what? I want to be a cop but I can't. So what? I can be a scientist or whatever in LEO field.
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Lol, at Jiro's number 1 but true. :gpost:
Number 3, very true
 
Defining life and what it means to someone is very personal and I don't think you should judge that on a forum such as this one; nor do I think it's fair to do so.

I didn't vote.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Defining life and what it means to someone is very personal and I don't think you should judge that on a forum such as this one; nor do I think it's fair to do so.

I didn't vote.
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I didn't vote either. Much too personal a topic to answer in a public opinion poll.
 
I think it is how a person defines NoRmAl.

To me normal is having diversity and differences if everyone was the same that would be abnormal to me
 
I didn't vote. What is the point? This is judge to everyone.
 
Everyone has a different standard of living, some goals attainable, some not.. everyone has some form of adversity and triumph for any reason. It happens to everyone, hearing and deaf both. What you consider adversity and triumph is up to you.

I echo others about the meaning of 'normal.'

Didn't vote on account of the poll question and the questions being biased.
 
dreama said:
Is a normal life always better then a disabled one. Personally I think that it depends on the life in question but sometimes a disabled life can actually be better then a normal life.
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The way you ask the question the logical answer will be, No its not always better, because you can not conclude every disabled person on this earth have a life worse than worst possible life a non-disabled person is having.

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Nope. Disabilty is very often constructed as inabilty...........but to me it's just another state of being.
 
Hearing people make us deaf people to be abnormal. Have you ever heard of Martha's Vineyard?

Also if you attend Gallaudet University, you would feel normal at there while hearing or person with CI will feel not normal lol.
 
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In my personal POV... I sometimes see how their responds are about " 'normal' people are wanted while 'abnormal' people are unwanted" subject around me... Well, Sorry... I somewhat disagreed what you said, Dreama...

It's depend on sitatutions... I don't think disabled people's lives are better than 'normal' people's. I do think we, disabled people, have somewhat/much harder time to deal with their lifestyles of the present time because of rejection, dsicrimation, etc etc. I will say a 'normal' preson have a little easier than you are a disabled person. If you don't want to have a disabled/abnormal child because how much harder to deal with his/her speical needs and money needed, then give him/her away or get a 'normal' child instead. I admited that I did feel, sometimes, disabled is just an 'unfit' and unwanted... OH! Of course, disability sucks. :roll: How could I forget? Yeah yeah, well... I asked my mom if it's really hard to raise a disabled child and... She said "No, it's not. To raise a child is work harder no matter if it is a disabled or not." So I agreed. Yes, that's true. So, how dare are they? I meant, if you really think an 'abnormal' or a disabled child is much harder than a 'normal' child, why not we can just get ruin of all that little bastard trolls?

I do think disabled people have a hardship than a 'normal' people... I guess it will be so wonderful life if there are no disabled people, none all of them, since they claimed it's hard to raise a disabled child than a 'normal' child... they claimed how much stupider we are... they claimed we are just a bunch of "immature" mortal-asses... just because of their 'special' needs, how much weirder we are, and money problem. :roll:

I still can't believe when they simply said it with a such unfeeling about disability. :roll:

Okay, whatever. Disability sucks by then. *shrugs coldly*

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