diehardbiker65 said:
Howcome we live longer than those people back then? Today, average life expectancy for us is 72 yrs old for men, and 78yrs old for women. Back then where there is no pollution, less job and those people live only up to 48 yrs old!!!! So, whats your point?
DHB
That is
totally myth and misinformation. On the contrary, back to old civilization, certain societies live longer than us (in present). I gather that it is time for me to crack these medical & informative books open and type down what they said... I will do that whenever I have some free time to myself (which by this evening while Nas is gone for night class). Huge of the hugest thank to this wonderful but rare book, "The Prolongation of Life" by Elie Metchnikoff, Russia Biologist for many incredible information that showed how wrong people are about so-called "we live longer than those people back" myth. If anyone want to pick this book up, good luck because it is extremely rare... but I believe they plan to restock this book. God bless Elie Metchnikoff for correcting these errors. And I highly recommend anyone to check this book out as well.
So how does these people got this misinformation/myth about longevity? As famous German biologist, Dr. Dessum (I believe I misspelled his last name) simply put; Scientists & Archaeologists made a grave error in that bogus estimate of longevity in old civilization by compare the numbers which included millions (or perhaps, billions) of dead babies due to hard life, lack of foods, etc etc.. which caused millions (or perhaps, billions) of dead babies... As of this moment, I have this article... I am going to type down this important statement out of this long article (from JAMA journal):
Under 'The Modern Longevity Myth":
We have generated the false impression that we have longer lives than our forebears by misunderstanding our own average lifespan calculations. For example, it is often claimed that the average lifespan for white Americans increased more than 25 years (for men from 48 to 74; for women from 51 to 80) between 1900 and 2000. The 1900 figures paint an inaccurate picture because they are averages that included all deaths from infancy to old age. To illustrate, if 50 percent of people die in infancy, and 50 percent live to 80 years, the average lifespan will be only 40. But when only those who lived past childhood are taken into account, people in 1900 had the same life expectancy as we do today; many lived to 70 and older. By improving sanitation and bringing down the infant mortality, we have created the illusion that adults are living longer. Once out of childhood, our potential lifespan has not really changed in at least 3,000 years.
Source: JAMA
Bless the Myth and Misinformation which that has been circulated around in modern civilizations for long time... It required only elementary math skill to dismiss this myth yet the myth is still circulating... That always make me scratch my head. Go figure, indeed.
Anyone may say: "So? Some of them may not live any longer than us after all." but wait, allow me add this one of many lovely examples that which will make any people will drop their jaw! Here it is:
"Look again at some of Alexander the Great's generals. Antigonus Monophthalmos was a battling veteran who, encouraging his troops from his war-horse, finally succumbed to a hail of javelins at the Battle of Ipsus. He was 81 years old. His opponent, Lysimichos, was later killed at the Battle of Coropedium at the age of 70. His ally Selfcos Nicator survived all battles only to be assassinated at the age of 78."
How many modern 70-year-old men would be capable of riding a war-horse into battle carrying the heavy anicent armaments? These old men had the virility of youth. We live no longer but lack their vigor in our old age!"
Source: JAMA
Well, based on this popular myth (we lived longer than those old civilization people), yes we may and may not live any longer than old civilization but we are definitely weak and wimpy when compared to these 'old' men in the old civilization. So far, based on real evidences, there is at least 99.5% of modern old men/women of 80 years old or older can't wear the ancient armaments or even lift the sword and swing like these truly ancient warriors... At best, we probably can only barely lift the iron pan and celebrate when we finally put it down on stove from our cabinets but with lots of labored breaths and wheezings. Heck, there was a Old English Parr who humped his second wife when he was 106 years old or older. How many modern old men do you think they can hump their wives in that age? Very, very close to zero. These 'ancient' old men/women surely didn't live on medicines like many modern old men/women yet they are able to do virtually anything that young people can do. That says lots...
In other words, I offically peed on... oops, I mean dismissed this "we live longer than those people back" myth.
And you forget one tiny detail... Old civilization people have way harder life than we do. If we live in their life and we will be whining constantly for several years then finally adapted to it or probably died from their hard life. Our so-called 'more' job is nothing when compare to their hard life. When did you or anyone ever threatened by predators like lions, tigers, wild dogs, etc? When did you or anyone ever threatened by warrior who came toward you in blazing speed with a seasoned sword swing down at you, if you somehow defeat that warrior, you probably will have to deal with 10 or more warriors next? When did we ever suffer from famine?At best we probably have been threatened by our tamed dogs who may or may not get out of control and bite our arm, leg, hands, etc or... humping our legs! Oh dear! That is our only current threat in our current areas. Of course, there are others which may place the threat on our lives... like car accidents, fire, etc but larger percent of these incidents lies in our poor judgment (or others) or somewhere along the line.
Everyone, sorry about long post...
Edit: Miss P, congrats, you hit it off about ages.