How come Jessie Jackson and Rev Al Sharpton are silenced on remarks on rice & thomas?

[Taylor]

Magatsu...why would you not debate it and why would you be worried about debating it. If you want to post 'factual' information, why not back it up. Would it be right for me to say 'John Kerry is a womanizing racist' and then not back up why I made such a statement. While debates can get a little heated at times, why would you see that as a bad thing? I have learned a lot from our debates, and even if I don't post about it, some of my opinions have changed because of information was brought to my attention that I wasn't previously aware of. Why would you post a statement and then run away from it if you are passionate about a particular subject?

I definitely have to remember one of my professor's statement: "It is always, always pointless to debate with conservatives or extremely right-republicans because they don't know what they are talking about in first place. Every time you are arguing with them, you lose a piece of your soul. Stay clear of them as often as you can. That is the rule of thumb." That's good advice.

Why would one of your educators make a comment such as that. Is it now commonplace that professors make statements like this to their students? What exactly is he a professor of, if you don't mind me asking?

The question is, Why is it ok to make republicans resign like democrats made trent lott to resign because his racial comments in strom thumonds birthday dinner speech, but its not ok for republicans to make senator harry reid withdraw his nomination because his racial remarks towards clarance thomas?.

Steve, you are right and I apologize for hijacking your thread. It is a two way street and I'd be curious to hear other responses why only republicans should be held accountable for their actions.

 

[ravensteve1961]

Taylor, Yeah its like this,A referee should enforce the rules on both teams. Like in baseball if an umpire gonna call a strike in that location when the red team is pitching but when a blue team pitcher throws a very same location the ump calls it a ball. Nopw would that get the manager upset? you bet it would. If the democrats think that trent lott should be held accountable for what he did shouldnt that apply to harry reid too?

 

[Taylor]

Magatsu, why will you not respond to this thread now? You have the balls to send me private messages claiming that other AD members here racially motivated against me because I'm Native American. What does me being Native American have anything to do with this (or other threads) here? While I'm highly offended by the comments that were made (and I will address the comments that were made), why would comments against Native Americans change my views about what this topic was originally about? You love to start all of these anti-bush, anti-war threads, but cannot deal with a debate about such subjects, and you have such hatred for people who 'dare' to disagree with you publicly. Why do you have the right to make statements the way you do, but then claim other people do not have the right to rebuke or debate those statements? You can sing all day long about how the republicans (excuse me....'those people') have ruined America and yet you cannot fathom that other people have the same freedom of speech that you do. Post after post of yours talk about how bad America is...well I'll tell you what is wrong with America...it is people such as yourself who think that 'Freedom of Speech' only applies to them and that any opposition should be silenced. I now see why you are such a fan of Saddam and his regime.....


I've made it clear in the past that debates are good. All issues, from abortion to war to cloning to stem cell research need to be discussed. We all have differing opinions about such topics and I've always believed that discussion and debates (even heated ones) are good. It brings out a lot of things that would otherwise have been silenced. I have learned a lot of new angles and ideas from reading posts of those who disagree with me. Hell, some people have even won me over to their side.

I do want to say Thank You, however. You have completely changed my opinion of you. I've always thought your posts were educational and well thought out but you have opened my eyes as to how things really are. The community here owes you a big 'Thank You' too because they will no longer have to read my ultra long posts in these debates. Congrats Magatsu, you win. You have successfully silenced your opposition!

 

[Banjo]

Taylor, c'mon. Don't stay silent, fight for what you believe in.

 

[Taylor]

Taylor, c'mon. Don't stay silent, fight for what you believe in.

You know....I do agree with you however there are plenty of other issues to be discussed. I'm involved in a lot of things. And after all, this is a deaf community forum and it wasn't the political debates that brought me here.
Additionally, I have a very, very stressful job and my interaction with is community is my relief (more than you folks will ever know). It won't be fun anymore if my 'relief' makes smoke come out of my ears

 

[Banjo]

You know....I do agree with you however there are plenty of other issues to be discussed. I'm involved in a lot of things. And after all, this is a deaf community forum and it wasn't the political debates that brought me here.
Additionally, I have a very, very stressful job and my interaction with is community is my relief (more than you folks will ever know). It won't be fun anymore if my 'relief' makes smoke come out of my ears

Well, I always enjoy reading your posts here even though I don't always agree with you here. I am a Liberal myself, but that doesn't mean I will treat the conservatives like they're from hell. Everybody has feelings, ya know.

To err is human.

 

[Vance]

Magatsu, why will you not respond to this thread now? You have the balls to send me private messages claiming that other AD members here racially motivated against me because I'm Native American. What does me being Native American have anything to do with this (or other threads) here? While I'm highly offended by the comments that were made (and I will address the comments that were made), why would comments against Native Americans change my views about what this topic was originally about? You love to start all of these anti-bush, anti-war threads, but cannot deal with a debate about such subjects, and you have such hatred for people who 'dare' to disagree with you publicly. Why do you have the right to make statements the way you do, but then claim other people do not have the right to rebuke or debate those statements? You can sing all day long about how the republicans (excuse me....'those people') have ruined America and yet you cannot fathom that other people have the same freedom of speech that you do. Post after post of yours talk about how bad America is...well I'll tell you what is wrong with America...it is people such as yourself who think that 'Freedom of Speech' only applies to them and that any opposition should be silenced. I now see why you are such a fan of Saddam and his regime.....

Now you are carrying the anger from ravensteve's racism comment to me. I really don't get it. Whatever you want to say to me so that it may will make you feel better. That is something to count on right? It is easier for me to accept the responsiblity for everything included JKF assassinations, budget deficit, Florida vote scandal, and now you deemed that I am a Saddam fan. OK, fine... that's what you thought and it is alright with me. I don't understand why you want to bring the offtopic into this topic. I am TRYING to avoid the offtopic... how? by pm'ing. I already explained to you in second pm and now you threw the accusation around toward me. I will say that again, I am willing to accept the responsibility than fighting with you about offtopic.

I've made it clear in the past that debates are good. All issues, from abortion to war to cloning to stem cell research need to be discussed. We all have differing opinions about such topics and I've always believed that discussion and debates (even heated ones) are good. It brings out a lot of things that would otherwise have been silenced. I have learned a lot of new angles and ideas from reading posts of those who disagree with me. Hell, some people have even won me over to their side.

Where did I said that I disagreed with you? Pray tell, I learned lot from your view as well until recent post. Edit: Honest with you, I'd love to meet you in person sometimes and have good discussions with you. Oh well.

I do want to say Thank You, however. You have completely changed my opinion of you. I've always thought your posts were educational and well thought out but you have opened my eyes as to how things really are. The community here owes you a big 'Thank You' too because they will no longer have to read my ultra long posts in these debates. Congrats Magatsu, you win. You have successfully silenced your opposition!

OK, I don't get it. You know as well that I have HUGE respect for you and your views. I already explained why I didn't bring it up in this post. Why are you ignoring my pm? I don't want to offtopic in this post. I am going to do that for both of our sake. Now you bring our personal into this topic. That's why I don't get it at all. Funny thing is... you almost made me want to leave this community. You are a hero so don't kid yourself. And you just silenced me in your previous comment.

I mean, come on... If I leave this community, will it make you stay? If so, I am more than glad to do that.. I am willing to take the responsibility for it. Check the pm please. It will clear up about everything. I don't know why you decide to bring it into the public. What are you trying to make the point out of this?

I will say again, you have the huge respect from me. That will never fail regardless of what you said to me in your post.

Regards,
Magatsu

Edit: Never mind. For your sake, I am going to leave this community to make everything easier for you and republicans (I bet they are ecstasy about it right now). I am quite tired of this shit anyway. Congratulation, you effortlessly win this shit.

 

[Banjo]

Magatsu and Tyler, try to come to a truce for the sake of the forum.

 

[Taylor]

Who said anything about me leaving this forum? I never asked you to leave either...in fact, I hope you will stay. Whether I agree or disagree with you, there are people here that agree with you and enjoy reading your posts. Don't leave because of me, but stay because of them.

Additionally, I never held you responsible (nor was I angry with you) about comments made by other members. My opinions about you are formed by what is posted by you (and only you). My opinions of each member are based solely on their comments. You and Beowulf are oftentimes in line with each others posts, but I wouldn't get angry at Beowulf because of something you say.

As for things being off topic, you know exactly what it was you said, and why my response was made in this thread. You are an intelligent person and you knew exactly what you were saying and what you were doing.

Magatsu and Tyler, try to come to a truce for the sake of the forum.

Banjo, there is nothing for me to say except that you are 100% correct...It is a good forum and I refuse to be a part of something to detract from that or to cause friction among the members.

 

[Vance]

Taylor, I probably know what I was saying but you will be surprised how wrong I am when I realized it on my own. No matter since you stick to your opinions about me so in other words, it is useless to debate with you any further even though I wish you realize how wrong you are about me.. but again, that's you and your opinion. it IS unfortunate. I am not able to change the past so I don't see where this between you and I will go from here. Anyway I usually firmly stick to my decisions that I made.

you win. congratulations.

sayonara.

Edit: republicans and conservatives, don't disappoint me. be ecstasy about it (ravensteve, I believe you will). bye folks.

 

[SpiceHD]

..............................................................wow

 

[Reba]

Edit: republicans and conservatives, don't disappoint me. be ecstasy about it (ravensteve, I believe you will). bye folks.

I am an independent conservative, and I am NOT happy if you leave AD. Really Magatsu, I didn't think you would be a quitter.

Hang in there.

 

[XBGMER]

JFK always called them negroes." so liberals should follow JFKs examples by calling them ""negroes""

ravensteve1961, Oh yeah... I never consider myself negro, african-american, moor on and on list that what whites calling them those confusion names whatever they want.. where that name negro, african-american, moor, Etntopian on and on come from? Mmmm... Oh negro come from spanish/ mexico called their own slaves.. negro is orignal n!g**r. I aint hispanic. African-american come from immigrants who recently come to america and become us-ciztiens. again, I aint Immigrant nor native africa. Moor come from italy when they saw refguees come to their country from africa that why they called them as moorishs. I ain't moor, which live in italy, hello! :roll: You know? I aint shame who I am. I am very proud who I am slave.

beforetime, white master always called slaves "boy" or "slave" .. did you know that?

btw you were wondered where "nig**r" come from? cough* ahh yeah they borrowed term from [king Jame version]Bible: Act 13:1 "simone that called "Niger" before they called slave "Nig*er"... Again they an JFK borrowed Negro from Spanish/ Mexico's own term..

 

[ravensteve1961]

ckfarbes Look up the word "Negro" in the english dictonary. And come back and tell me what you read.
Like i am italian. Anybody calls me a WOP will get whacked like tony soprano whacks you. BTW id wouldnt say HEY WOP to tony soprano.

What ya you call me? Ok boys take care this clown for me.

 

[XBGMER]

ckfarbes Look up the word "Negro" in the english dictonary.

ravensteve1961, yawn, no necessary for me check the term " negro" in dictonary. I suggest you go to get ticket for vacation on mexico or south america, ask them, they will tell you what is in heck term "NEGRO" means to you. I no need to waste to argue with you about that issue.. because you know nothing what the between term: "negro" and "slave" meanings to you for my rest..

I can't answer you what white supremacy of people call you. but you know white racist call you some names that what I answer!

tell me why genertions of presidents in the white house never allow for italian man run for persident of the united states?

I knowledge of this history through all centuries. because my grand-great forfathers and I born in the wilderness of North America [supremacy county] for more than 500 years.. I knew what the white supremacy of people talk and written about me. my great-great fathers and I grew in this been racist always beautiful to my forefathers included me. And I do respect their intelligant white racists toward differents of foreigners. they want to superior above all. there is exist in them above all forever that I respect. is not that beautiful about them to you? English belong to me, my native tongue, because I am he of them.

 

[ravensteve1961]

Im not into white supremacy. That confederate flag has nothing to do about race. My great great grandfather was in the confederate army. He was promoted to lieutenant in the conferate army 1 year before war ended. He was a grad at west point. But he didnt agree with lincoin decided to fight for general lee cause general lee stood up for his boys and tried to help them win for their causes. I honor that flag along with this flag

Cause im an american who will stand up with america!And this man will be the first italian american president.

And the first italian american vice president.

 

[XBGMER]

Im not into white supremacy. That confederate flag has nothing to do about race. My great great grandfather was in the confederate army. He was promoted to lieutenant in the conferate army 1 year before war ended. He was a grad at west point. But he didnt agree with lincoin decided to fight for general lee cause general lee stood up for his boys and tried to help them win for their causes. I honor that flag along with this flag

Cause im an american who will stand up with america!And this man will be the first italian american president.

And the first italian american vice president.

Hey I am not trying to be rude. I dont want your Opinions because U obviously have not had to deal with this..

God made it clear that no foreigner is to rule over the nation of my people. "...You shall surely set a king over you whom the Lord your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you MAY NOT set a FOREIGNER over you, who is not your brother." (Deuteronomy 17:15).

Nonwhite birth rates and immigration. Massive illegal immigration from the Third World will surely make America is heading toward becoming another third world nation in the name of Babel rather than the nation own within nation in the Nothern wilderness of forefathers is my father's glory!

 

[Reba]

God made it clear that no foreigner is to rule over the nation of my people. "...You shall surely set a king over you whom the Lord your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you MAY NOT set a FOREIGNER over you, who is not your brother." (Deuteronomy 17:15).

I am confused. Ravensteve's post was about the next U.S. President. Your reply to him is about Israel. Can you please explain the connection?

 

[Angel]

Wow...

*speechless*

 

[Nesmuth]

Maybe they both slept with her when they were wild college kids.