Holder defends decision to read Miranda rights to Times Square suspect

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jillio said:
Yep. Scary little loophole, isn't it?
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more like a deterrent. I doubt the enemy combatant would be held indefinitely otherwise the bunch will raise hell about it like Amnesty International, UN, etc.
 
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It's a good thing the forefathers were successful in their revolution. Would hate to think what the British crown would do them. :cold:
 
souggy said:
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It's a good thing the forefathers were successful in their revolution. Would hate to think what the British crown would do them. :cold:
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We'd never know if the words "plausible deniability" and "national security" were used in the same sentence. After all, history is written by the victors.
 
Beowulf said:
We'd never know if the words "plausible deniability" and "national security" were used in the same sentence. After all, history is written by the victors.
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Do you mean the Brits never wrote their version of what happened in 1776?
 
It wasn't necessary. We won. :lol:
 
rockdrummer said:
They are not criticizing for the reading of the Miranda rights per se. What they are saying is that he should have immediately been treated as an enemy combatant. I can't say that I disagree with that.
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I'm sure you wouldn't be satisfied unless he was waterboarded on the spot, tortured and force to pose with a butch woman putting her foot over his genitals.

Would that satisfy you? :roll:
 
BradB08 said:
I'm sure you wouldn't be satisfied unless he was waterboarded on the spot, tortured and force to pose with a butch woman putting her foot over his genitals.

Would that satisfy you? :roll:
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I was merely stating the facts as described in the article the OP posted. Do you have to work hard at being an ass or does it come naturally to you?
 
Reba said:
Does anyone remember John Walker Lindh?
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A perfect example of an American citizen who was treated as an enemy combatant . I don't care if you are an American or not. If your actions warrant such treatment then so be it. Should we wait until innocent men, women and children are blown up and severely injured or killed before we treat someone that is trying to kill Americans as a combatant? I say no. Your actions will determine how you are treated.

Or maybe we should treat them like this;

Oh, poor baby. Your bomb did not detonate. Well that's ok. Let's put you up in a hotel until we can get this silly mess sorted out. Would you like some tea or something to eat? Do you have enough pillows?
 
We are at war with Islamic terrorist groups.
 
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War on Terror.

Kinda oxymoronic there.

How can you declare a war on something with no government, no state, no nationality or any ethnicity?
 
Miranda warnings are read to people in police custody, whether or not they are U.S. citizens, to advise them that they have the right to remain silent, that anything they say can be used against them in court and that they have a right to an attorney. The mandatory warnings, which get their name from a 1966 Supreme Court decision, are used to ensure that testimonial evidence will be admissible in court......

"There are exceptions to Miranda, and that is one of the ways in which we conduct our interrogations of terrorism suspects," Holder testified. He cited a "public safety exception" that allows police or federal agents to question suspected terrorists about such matters as whether they are acting alone, know of other threats or have anyone coming to help them.........

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) said he plans to introduce a bill that would allow the government to strip the citizenship of U.S. citizens who join foreign terrorist groups. Revoking U.S. citizenship would enable prosecutors to try such defendants in special military tribunals established for enemy combatants. Under current law, Americans cannot be tried in those tribunals.
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I guess it makes no difference if they are a US Citizen or not. In certain exceptions, it is postponed until information is gathered then it is given.
 
souggy said:
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War on Terror.

Kinda oxymoronic there.

How can you declare a war on something with no government, no state, no nationality or any ethnicity?
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You do that out of adaptability when people are trying to kill you. While technically you are correct, the reality is THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL AMERICANS!! And those Americans are non-combatants such as innocent men, women and children.
 
souggy said:
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War on Terror.

Kinda oxymoronic there.

How can you declare a war on something with no government, no state, no nationality or any ethnicity?
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Hence, the war on terror. Or if you prefer, the battle against terrorism.
 
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Yep. A ploy to make the American public feel better that the government is doing something they can't garauntee.
 
Jiro said:
WRONG!


CORRECT!

Perhaps you might want to check the "Axis of Evil" list. Not all are Islamic.
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Yup, North Korea is one that is Axis of Evil.
 
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