Extremist group demands governors resign, FBI says

[jillio]

Do you mean Tea Partiers? That other term is a vulgarity.

Tea Partiers hardly describes their motivation for forming the organization or their motives. Tea Baggers is much more descriptive of the above.

A term is vulgar only if one perceives it as such. Contextual definition needs to be applied in this case.

 

[Reba]

Tea Partiers hardly describes their motivation for forming the organization or their motives. Tea Baggers is much more descriptive of the above.

A term is vulgar only if one perceives it as such. Contextual definition needs to be applied in this case.

"Tea Party" is the name of the organization and movement.

Tea baggers:
The Online Slang Dictionary | Definition of tea bag

You don't think that's a vulgar way to address someone?

I would have thought some one with your education wouldn't have to stoop to such low vulgarities in order to make a point.

 

[Reba]

According to Mother Jones:

Inspired by this news, fear and loathing run thick in the blogosphere today: Could this be the violent offshoot of angry white guyism, of Tea Parties and Oath Keepers, we always suspected lurking around the corner? With its amalgam of threats, Biblical hyperbole, and secretive initiations of Project Mayhem-like "posses" around the nation, could these be the slimy, ochre monsters that mobilize the country's patriot-subversives and drag us down the slippery slope to libertarian perdition?

Sorry to disappoint. What the AP didn't tell you is: The Guardians of the Free Republics are just a Web cover for a single unhinged Silicon Valley dude who isn't even American-born. It's amazing what a simple "Whois" Internet domain search will turn up. A full report and video follow the jump.

Turns out goftr.com and guardiansofthefreerepublics.com are registered to one Clive Boustred of Soquel, California—a British-educated former South African soldier with an apparent knack for "anti-terrorist warfare," computer consulting, and conspiracy theorizing. The sites—and the "group"—appear not to have existed before he registered them, about two months ago....

Guardians of the Free Republics: An Astroturf Militia (VIDEO) | Mother Jones

No connection to the Tea Party movement.

 

[Reba]

According to the Christian Science Monitor:

...But while a return to constitutional ideals is what much of the conservative tea party movement is about, experts say the Guardians are a different animal altogether. They can be primarily traced to the anti-IRS Posse Comitatus movement of the 1980s, and their modern iteration is, if not non-partisan, anti-partisan.

A mix of left and right

"Traditionally, critique of the IRS has come from the right, such as the Christian patriot movement, but [sovereign citizen] movements also invoke a lot of left-wing ideas like anti-capitalism that are consistent with the times and the downturn in the economy, where people may have property liens against them," says George Michael, an expert on political extremism at the University of Virginia's College at Wise....

Guardians of the free Republics looked to Gandhi, King, and Mandela / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

 

[jillio]

"Tea Party" is the name of the organization and movement.

Tea baggers:
The Online Slang Dictionary | Definition of tea bag

You don't think that's a vulgar way to address someone?

I would have thought some one with your education wouldn't have to stoop to such low vulgarities in order to make a point.

You really need to stop making so many assumptions in regard to me, and the thinly disquised ad hominem attacks are becoming annoying as well.

I would think that someone who has a career as an interpreter would be capable of using contextual definition.

Tea Baggers is a term used quite frequently by the media and other sources to refer to this particular fringe movement. The vast majority of people are not even aware of the slang definition referring to a particular sexual practice. Again, it is all about context.

 

[Foxrac]

Tea Party is nothing but very embarrassed and extreme bigot, IMO.

Tea Party is supposed to be pure anti-tax organization but numerous conservatives use social to against on gay rights, abortion, etc to make Tea Party looks more conservative and extreme.

If you are anti-tax, anti-big government but support gay rights, abortion so goes join Libertarian Party.

For me, I prefer to have flat tax over Fair Tax Act.

 

[Reba]

You really need to stop making so many assumptions in regard to me, and the thinly disquised ad hominem attacks are becoming annoying as well.

I would think that someone who has a career as an interpreter would be capable of using contextual definition.

Tea Baggers is a term used quite frequently by the media and other sources to refer to this particular fringe movement. The vast majority of people are not even aware of the slang definition referring to a particular sexual practice. Again, it is all about context.

I disguised nothing. I call 'em as I see 'em. I'm offended by your vulgarity, and you're annoyed by my calling you on it.

Respectable professional news sources do NOT call Tea Party members "Tea Baggers." If vulgar comedians and bloggers use that term, then that's not much of a recommendation.

I didn't know about that definition until it was pointed out to me. It has since been explained at several sites and on the news, so many more people are now aware of it's derogatory nature. Most intelligent classy people refrain from using it once they know how offensive it is.

In what kind of "context" do you find nastiness acceptable?

 

[jillio]

I disguised nothing. I call 'em as I see 'em. I'm offended by your vulgarity, and you're annoyed by my calling you on it.

Respectable professional news sources do NOT call Tea Party members "Tea Baggers." If vulgar comedians and bloggers use that term, then that's not much of a recommendation.

I didn't know about that definition until it was pointed out to me. It has since been explained at several sites and on the news, so many more people are now aware of it's derogatory nature. Most intelligent classy people refrain from using it once they know how offensive it is.

In what kind of "context" do you find nastiness acceptable?

Nah...I am not annoyed. To be perfectly honest, your responses are no more, and no less, that would be expected.

You might want to go back and check some articles of the recent past concerning what repsectable professional news sources do and do not call this particular fringe organization.

Are you being purposely obtuse, or does "contextual definition" need to be explained to you?

Another post full of judgement. To be expected. It is the status quo.

 

[Reba]

Nah...I am not annoyed. To be perfectly honest, your responses are no more, and no less, that would be expected.

You might want to go back and check some articles of the recent past concerning what repsectable professional news sources do and do not call this particular fringe organization.

Are you being purposely obtuse, or does "contextual definition" need to be explained to you?

Another post full of judgement. To be expected. It is the status quo.

I've never seen anyone go to so much trouble to defend their crude language.

Judgment? That's ironic since you're the one who incorrectly connected the Tea Party with the guy who sent the threatening letters to the governors, and then topped it off with using a derogatory term with which to label them.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. If you want to search for news stories that support your statements, go for it.

I to the "Queen of the Ad Hominem Attacks", and go my simple way.

 

[kokonut]

Huzzzahh! Three cheers!
Huzzzah!!

 

[deafskeptic]

I've never seen anyone go to so much trouble to defend their crude language.

Judgment? That's ironic since you're the one who incorrectly connected the Tea Party with the guy who sent the threatening letters to the governors, and then topped it off with using a derogatory term with which to label them.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. If you want to search for news stories that support your statements, go for it.

I to the "Queen of the Ad Hominem Attacks", and go my simple way.

With all due respect, I don't consider tea baggers a crude term in relation to the Tea Party given the context.

Now, if it were about World of Warcraft PvP (player vs players; it refers to player's characters killing other player's characters); I'd consider that crude.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

With all due respect, I don't consider tea baggers a crude term in relation to the Tea Party given the context.

Now, if it were about World of Warcraft PvP (player vs players; it refers to player's characters killing other player's characters); I'd consider that crude.

The original use of the word by MSNBC was crude. However I think it's one of those words that caught on and got used without realizing what the roots of those words meant. So, in that regard, I don't consider "teabaggers" offensive because most of the people using the term have no idea what "teabagging" entails.

The Internet can be a cruel mistress.

 

[Reba]

Just about everyone here knows the crude meaning now but some continue to use that term regardless. Why?

 

[Foxrac]

Reba, you should thank to me for not use word "tea******" anymore in few weeks ago.

It is ironic to say about some members of Tea Party use teabag on head that attach to caps or hats so it make easier to anybody to label them as tea******.

 

[deafskeptic]

Just about everyone here knows the crude meaning now but some continue to use that term regardless. Why?

I could ask the same question of others who call those who disagree with them on some issues like the environment, and other issues. Terms like tree hugger, liberal wackos, wild eyed hippies, socialist (as applied to anyone who disagrees with the conservate poster) etc..

Yet I'm a bit skeptical that if democratic posters on AD asked conservative posters to stop using the terms, most of our conservative posters would do as asked. After all, I'm under the impression that many on the fringe right and the far right think that the Democratic party is under the influence of Satan himself. In short, Democrats and liberals are being demonized. And who would give anyone considered evil respect?


I will grant that none of these terms have the sexual connotation of the word tea baggers. I've no doubt that comedians have been having a field day with that term.

Respect is a two way street.

 

[Reba]

Reba, you should thank to me for not use word "tea******" anymore in few weeks ago.

Yes, thank you. I appreciate that.

It is ironic to say about some members of Tea Party use teabag on head that attach to caps or hats so it make easier to anybody to label them as tea******.

I think not all people are aware of the nasty meaning. I didn't know about it until someone else explained it.

There's a difference between people who don't know nasty words and use them innocently, and those who do know that the words are nasty and continue to use them to denigrate people.

 

[jillio]

I've never seen anyone go to so much trouble to defend their crude language.

Judgment? That's ironic since you're the one who incorrectly connected the Tea Party with the guy who sent the threatening letters to the governors, and then topped it off with using a derogatory term with which to label them.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. If you want to search for news stories that support your statements, go for it.

I to the "Queen of the Ad Hominem Attacks", and go my simple way.

I've never seen anyone go to so much trouble to attempt to supply credibility to that which has none.

I didn't make a connection at all. I asked if there was a connection.

It isn't my homework. It, quite obviously, is homework you need to do, given your statement that responsible news sources do not use the term "Tea Baggers" to refer to this particular fringe group.

Speaking of ad hominem attacks, you might want to go back and review your posts. Quite obviously, there is a queen here, and it isn't me. It's okay. Status quo.

 

[jillio]

With all due respect, I don't consider tea baggers a crude term in relation to the Tea Party given the context.

Now, if it were about World of Warcraft PvP (player vs players; it refers to player's characters killing other player's characters); I'd consider that crude.

Exactly. It is all about context. Some appear to be completely unable to apply that.

 

[jillio]

Yes, thank you. I appreciate that.


I think not all people are aware of the nasty meaning. I didn't know about it until someone else explained it.

There's a difference between people who don't know nasty words and use them innocently, and those who do know that the words are nasty and continue to use them to denigrate people.

There you go. It is all about context. You appear however, to be focused on the sexual connotation. Strange as well, that you would convert sexual connotation to "nasty."

If I wanted to denigrate, I would call members of the party "blooming idiots."

 

[Beowulf]

Interesting. To me "teabagger" the political term stands distinctly apart from "teabagger" the vulgar term. I just asked a couple hearing friends if they have heard of the term "teabagger" and they say yes. I asked them if they knew the vulgar meaning, and they didn't. When I explained it to them, they were offended I would go that far in context, lol.
I found a good link... Dawn Teo: "Teabagger" Oxford Dictionary Word-of-the-Year Finalist