Deaf View of Deafies from Hearing Family

A said:
I'm been learning. From start ASL and lifeprint. There's no ASL class right now, and my son is off from school so I don't know what to do about him as I am his only babysitter. He is taking ASL kid camp in aug. for a week, though.
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awesome. That would be nice if anyone or me who lives near your home, i d be happy babbling to you in signing. of course. :D my hubby started learning ASL when he was a kid but was forced to speak so he didn't learn ASL until he enrolled gallaudet and took ASL class. he likes it even better but he still speaks only if necessary. ha
 
When I get to the point I can understand those youtube (without the comments and caption telling me the full story).. I'll let you know :) otherwise, I'm afraid you are just going to be my teacher. just thought of something, but never got around to it because my husband scedule, but there is a deaf church nearby that have a oral interpreter. I may not hear everything, but that's what I'm used to.
 
nah, thats purrfectly understandable.. the best thing is to go with the flow whatever it comes to you. :)
 
A said:
When I get to the point I can understand those youtube (without the comments and caption telling me the full story).. I'll let you know :) otherwise, I'm afraid you are just going to be my teacher. just thought of something, but never got around to it because my husband scedule, but there is a deaf church nearby that have a oral interpreter. I may not hear everything, but that's what I'm used to.
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I understand it is very hard for us deaf whether ASL using or oral the deaf thing presents real issues, I was wondering if many have just opted out of bothering with hearing because of that, or, as many are saying, it's choice ? I find those who say I use choice to communicate how I want, to who I want, then add "I cannot make myself understood to hearing or me understand them anyway.." which is then, NOT choice is it ? So we don't need to justify that by declaring it choice do we ? It's hard because it IS. then the next question is, how do we overcome that difficulty... not side-step the question.
 
I come from hearing family but I mostly complain about deaf community and deafies that i hang out with or date.. so I don't know why I date hearing guys I guess they are mature if I was with a deaf guy I wud be immature in a way.. eh that confuses me a bit but at least.. I'm just having fun ;) I guess i feel comfortable with hanging out with hearing friends than deafies cuz few people I wud not name but wud continue to backstab or gossip so that is sooo high school drama ugh...
 
Passivist said:
I understand it is very hard for us deaf whether ASL using or oral the deaf thing presents real issues, I was wondering if many have just opted out of bothering with hearing because of that, or, as many are saying, it's choice ? I find those who say I use choice to communicate how I want, to who I want, then add "I cannot make myself understood to hearing or me understand them anyway.." which is then, NOT choice is it ? So we don't need to justify that by declaring it choice do we ? It's hard because it IS. then the next question is, how do we overcome that difficulty... not side-step the question.
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Well, I only have one life to live, and I don't feel like wasting it on working hard to communicate with hearing. I lived in that lifestyle too long. It gotten easier for me since all my hearing family got on the computer and start texting me. I was so happy that my hearing brother texted me for the first time today! He needed me and I was happy I could help him. They are ok with me talking to them on the computer instead of face to face. they love it too because they were frustrated as I was. No worry because I still visit them.
 
crazyerica32 said:
I come from hearing family but I mostly complain about deaf community and deafies that i hang out with or date.. so I don't know why I date hearing guys I guess they are mature if I was with a deaf guy I wud be immature in a way.. eh that confuses me a bit but at least.. I'm just having fun ;) I guess i feel comfortable with hanging out with hearing friends than deafies cuz few people I wud not name but wud continue to backstab or gossip so that is sooo high school drama ugh...
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What's with people that get on ALLDEAF and make comments like this? Are you trying to tear deaf people down when we are trying to build each other up?
 
crazyerica32 said:
I come from hearing family but I mostly complain about deaf community and deafies that i hang out with or date.. so I don't know why I date hearing guys I guess they are mature if I was with a deaf guy I wud be immature in a way.. eh that confuses me a bit but at least.. I'm just having fun ;) I guess i feel comfortable with hanging out with hearing friends than deafies cuz few people I wud not name but wud continue to backstab or gossip so that is sooo high school drama ugh...
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So you dont like deaf people at all?
 
Passivist said:
I understand it is very hard for us deaf whether ASL using or oral the deaf thing presents real issues, I was wondering if many have just opted out of bothering with hearing because of that, or, as many are saying, it's choice ? I find those who say I use choice to communicate how I want, to who I want, then add "I cannot make myself understood to hearing or me understand them anyway.." which is then, NOT choice is it ? So we don't need to justify that by declaring it choice do we ? It's hard because it IS. then the next question is, how do we overcome that difficulty... not side-step the question.
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That's a question u should only ask yourself. For myself, as a deaf person, I say, "Who gives a shit?" My life is too short and I intend to enjoy it the way I want to without bowing to hearing people's way of life. I think plenty of other deaf people dont really give a rat's ass.
 
A lot of bitterness in this thread. I finally have an understanding of why some posts in AD are written with the tone they have. I could not understand the near-sighted POV I'd been reading across the board for quite some time. I'm deaf, and I totally accept it. I do give a shit about trying to communicate with others. Otherwise it's a bitter and lonely life, and I've only got one life at that, so I'm gonna make the best of it.
 
A said:
I'm been learning. From start ASL and lifeprint. There's no ASL class right now, and my son is off from school so I don't know what to do about him as I am his only babysitter. He is taking ASL kid camp in aug. for a week, though.
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Good luck with learning ASL. Too bad I dont live closer. I learned ASL at 25 years old. Took me about 5 years to become fluent.

Do you have VP?
 
Bebonang said:
Well, I am sorry, Shel90. It is so happen to be me always complaining about hearing people and the oral only method in both elementary school and high school. The Deaf children of Deaf families are just lucky because the Deaf families knows what it is like to be deaf and know that we can not struggle in the oral only methods except to ASL. I am jealous of the Deaf families and wish my parents and my sister were like them. That was my dream. :hmm: It would make our life a lot more easier. :cool2:
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Depend on those Deaf families, some of them are not so bright and not education. No thanks. I am happy with my hearing family whom they worked hard to make my life great and work with other deaf people in their professionals. Without me, they would never be part of it.
 
jazzy said:
Depend on those Deaf families, some of them are not so bright and not education. No thanks. I am happy with my hearing family whom they worked hard to make my life great and work with other deaf people in their professionals. Without me, they would never be part of it.
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That's cool that your family members work with other deaf people in their professions. I know a lot of hearing families of deaf children who learn ASL and get involved with the Deaf community. Really nice of them.
 
Passivist said:
I think it matters a huge amount. Deaf are very isolated and seriously disabled people communication-wise, I am sure most do not want total restriction to deaf-only areas, most of us want a choice. To advance even the deaf world we need new ideas, new people, constant stimulation, an ability to get on with and work with hearing people, etc. What the deaf-only area advocates is the demise of the deaf community. A sterile community. Mostly it is existing online and not on the ground already, much face to face contact and socialising has been replaced with areas like this, text only... The jury is still out facebook and Twittering is better than meeting real people day in and day out. Hearing can utilise these things because at the end of the day they can still turn on a radio, go to the theatre, watch a TV etc with no need for assistance to follow, we by and large cannot, so cannot afford to restrict ourselves to text-only social relationships.
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That is lie. Many of us are happy for being us, just some people out there does not accept us for who we are. That is their problems not ours. Many hearing people are lonely too. Sometime I am bored with them because they don't have what I have a normal life. I meet them every day on the street, sometime new faces and sometime old faces. New faces I teach them. And they teach me about themselves just alike here on AD. My husband is hearing and he uses CB while I go to work which they bore me to death. Those people does not have any life but complain all the time. No jobs, no money,then they were talking about fishing, cars, and goes on and on ( men stuffs, not for me). Really being deaf is no big deal to me just alike they are hearing no big deal to me, just another human being with stain on their body.
 
shel90 said:
That's cool that your family members work with other deaf people in their professions. I know a lot of hearing families of deaf children who learn ASL and get involved with the Deaf community. Really nice of them.
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It came natural to them. Without me, they would go on live in different paths but it was designed this way before I was born. :)
 
AlleyCat said:
A lot of bitterness in this thread. I finally have an understanding of why some posts in AD are written with the tone they have. I could not understand the near-sighted POV I'd been reading across the board for quite some time. I'm deaf, and I totally accept it. I do give a shit about trying to communicate with others. Otherwise it's a bitter and lonely life, and I've only got one life at that, so I'm gonna make the best of it.
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AMEN!!

I feel the same being total deaf.
 
shel90 said:
Good luck with learning ASL. Too bad I dont live closer. I learned ASL at 25 years old. Took me about 5 years to become fluent.

Do you have VP?
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yes, but it is installed on my netbook, meaning it won't be on all the time. I can give you my VRS number if you want it but I feel I need to learn a few more basic signing (actually, I really camera shy but I'll try to overcome that fear)
 
A said:
yes, but it is installed on my netbook, meaning it won't be on all the time. I can give you my VRS number if you want it but I feel I need to learn a few more basic signing (actually, I really camera shy but I'll try to overcome that fear)
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I totally know how you feel about being camera shy. I too need to learn more before I will feel comfortable signing into my VP. I have Skype and P3.
 
the funny thing about using video relay for the deaf or other relay service that it's a hearing people's game, they're collecting fortune from the "unfortunate." the deaf people may benefit from the technology but the companies behind relay services are using phone surcharge taxes to collect. they have been scamming as well.
Half of the time, the hearing people don't know how to adapt with the relay service so we're back in prehistoric days.
 
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