Data on 26 million veterans stolen from home

There should be a military regulation that says

Do Not Bring Classified Material Home At All !!!!!!

What belongs at The Pentagon stays there.

If it is de-classified material or is available to the general public then that is fine.

Records of military benefits, social security numbers and another very personal data clearly are not de-classified material at all.

They should remain at the Pentagon under lock and key with U.S. Marines surrounded around the compound with German Shepards, Rottweilers, Dobermans patrolling the compound with high and low technology to trip an alarm to an intruder's presence and machine gun those theiving bastards to death !!!!!!
Semper Fi !!!!!
 
Heath said:
There should be a military regulation that says

Do Not Bring Classified Material Home At All !!!!!!

What belongs at The Pentagon stays there.

If it is de-classified material or is available to the general public then that is fine.

Records of military benefits, social security numbers and another very personal data clearly are not de-classified material at all....

"The analyst took the data home without authorization, Nicholson said. Department spokesman Matt Burns said the employee has been put on administrative leave while the investigation is conducted."
 
Reba said:
"The analyst took the data home without authorization, Nicholson said. Department spokesman Matt Burns said the employee has been put on administrative leave while the investigation is conducted."

Reba, Then there should be a policy that there are guards posted inside the room's perimeter then the data worker can work there but clearly are not allowed to take data home and there are security cameras in another room in another state recording his every movement of his hands as he works on the data. Any attempt to take the data is met by machine gunfire. This is a matter of National Security.
 
Reba said:
"The analyst took the data home without authorization, Nicholson said. Department spokesman Matt Burns said the employee has been put on administrative leave while the investigation is conducted."


Sigh... What did this data analyst do with it ? and/or what
will this data analyst do with it ? Even with this data, I think
it's still difficult for this analyst to steal another veteran's
retirement money etc. This is also difficult to find out
whether this analyst already have your veteran account data
or not... How ?
 
Y said:
Sigh... What did this data analyst do with it ? and/or what
will this data analyst do with it ? Even with this data, I think
it's still difficult for this analyst to steal another veteran's
retirement money etc. This is also difficult to find out
whether this analyst already have your veteran account data
or not... How ?
Someone stole the data from the analyst's home. Authorities are afraid that the thieves might use the information for identity theft. The data includes names, SSN's and birthdates. That is exactly the info that thieves need and use for stealing people's identities. After they steal the ID's, then they can access bank accounts, credit card accounts, etc.
 
Or God forbid, they could tell who is on active duty and in what part of the world or is he here statesides ? Their families home addresses etc ..... Terrorists could go up to the door of that family or mail millions of mail bombs to servicemen's families.... or single servicemen that are not married recieve the mail bombs. That is not right or fair and that is why what stays at the Pentagon stays there in the hands and safety of the U.S. Marines. That data analyst ought to be put in a room full of savage , angry U.S. Marines and he will learn his lesson never to take home data.
 
Reba said:
Someone stole the data from the analyst's home. Authorities are afraid that the thieves might use the information for identity theft. The data includes names, SSN's and birthdates. That is exactly the info that thieves need and use for stealing people's identities. After they steal the ID's, then they can access bank accounts, credit card accounts, etc.

I doubt they can do it because they still do NOT
have any password associated with these accounts.

However, if they have these passwords, then
how can you and other veterans protect their
own accounts from ID thefts ?

Lets hope that nothing is gonna happen.
 
Y said:
I doubt they can do it because they still do NOT
have any password associated with these accounts.

However, if they have these passwords, then
how can you and other veterans protect their
own accounts from ID thefts ?

Lets hope that nothing is gonna happen.

Well, How did they override the passwords and get unlisted phone numbers and addresses to the U.S. Senate and U.S. Congress during the Anthrax scare.

What CNN is not telling you is that the Anthrax mass mailings probably were mailed to their family's homes too as well as their offices where they work.

That is how sick the terrorists are.

Remember we are living in Wartime America where everything is under attack. I know it does not seem like we are under attack but always assume we are under attack until alittle after we win the War on Terror.
 
Isn't it just wonderful to see our tax dollars hard at work? Doesn't it just give you warm fuzzies? It does me, knowing my government is watching over my safety and my interests. How thoughtful! :hug: :rl: :rl: :rl: :rl: :rifle: :rifle: :rifle:

Thank God I never served!!
 
pek1 said:
Isn't it just wonderful to see our tax dollars hard at work? Doesn't it just give you warm fuzzies? It does me, knowing my government is watching over my safety and my interests. How thoughtful! :hug: :rl: :rl: :rl: :rl: :rifle: :rifle: :rifle:

Thank God I never served!!

All the military in the world's governments are corrupt to some extent. Some are more corrupt and some are less, For all of the problems we have. We are blessed with a very good military. It is the few politicans that are screwing it up big time and the robbery of the Pentagon by the liberal establishment is going on so hopefully once we get a U.S. President who is the real deal and thinks like a very strong American will get those traitors out of our military and government positions then strengthen the U.S. Armed Forces until then the robbery of the Pentagon will keep going on till somebody who is The Commander in Cheif and is very serious enough to stop it.
 
Obviously I'm not happy with this one bit! That guy ought to be fired for what he's done, at the very least.

And thanks a LOT, pek, for insulting my father, among others who served in the military and who have been government employees. He is a GOOD man, and I met many other VERY good people who were in the military or who worked for the government. If you think all military people are bloodthirsty, boneheaded Rambos, then I feel sorry for you.

Like every large group, they really must be treated as INDIVIDUALS and I find it funny how it's OK for those on the left to have prejudice and not OK for those on the right because it's OK to hate some groups and not OK to hate others. It's INEXCUSABLE regardless of who is targeted.

That is my final word on this subject but it HAD to be said.
 
Rose Immortal said:
Obviously I'm not happy with this one bit! That guy ought to be fired for what he's done, at the very least.

And thanks a LOT, pek, for insulting my father, among others who served in the military and who have been government employees. He is a GOOD man, and I met many other VERY good people who were in the military or who worked for the government. If you think all military people are bloodthirsty, boneheaded Rambos, then I feel sorry for you.

Like every large group, they really must be treated as INDIVIDUALS and I find it funny how it's OK for those on the left to have prejudice and not OK for those on the right because it's OK to hate some groups and not OK to hate others. It's INEXCUSABLE regardless of who is targeted.

That is my final word on this subject but it HAD to be said.

Amen, I agree with you Rose Immortal :) :thumb: :gpost:
 
Rose Immortal said:
...And thanks a LOT, pek, for insulting my father, among others who served in the military and who have been government employees. He is a GOOD man, and I met many other VERY good people who were in the military or who worked for the government. If you think all military people are bloodthirsty, boneheaded Rambos, then I feel sorry for you.
Thank you!

I might add, all my ancestors who have served in the military in every war since and including the American Revolution. Also, my dad, his two brothers, and sister who all served in the military during WWII. Also, my uncle who served as an Army Chaplain's driver in Korea during that war. Also, Hubby, who was drafted during the Vietnam War, and myself, who volunteered during the Vietnam War.

Really good timing for insulting our military. This is Memorial Day weekend, a time when we should be thanking God for those who have died in service to our country.
 
Blame on President Clinton!!! Not Bush!

Why? Identity thieves start to get out of control WHEN? Back in 1992 under President Clinton. He refused to do anything about it, thinks its small problem... RIGHT, now look how big mess we are into!

There has been widespread abuses with SSN! NONE of these congressmen care to do anything about it. FDR never intended having SSN for private uses, only for retirement/disability/tax purpose, nothing else.

What I think is really responsible for all of these credit bureau to set up their own "Financial Security Number", that way these bureau will have control with the Identities.

Nothing is going to get better UNTIL politicans and banks start to wake up!
 
DHB, that would make a lot of sense. It would be more work, but look at how efficient computers are now.

It doesn't make sense to have one number that gives an identity thief access to EVERYTHING about a person. Having separate numbers would be a good idea.

The only question I have about doing that is, what would companies use to do credit and background checks when necessary, and multiple computer systems or companies/government agencies need to talk to each other? Thoughts?
 
More disturbing news

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20060531.html

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How 26.5 Million Veterans Were Put At Risk of Identify Theft, and Why Credit Freeze Laws Are Needed to Protect Future Victims
By ANITA RAMASASTRY
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Wednesday, May 31, 2006

Earlier this month -- in another of a series of recent, high-profile security breaches -- one Veteran's Administration (VA) employee's rule violation put as many as 26.5 million veterans at risk of identity theft. This is reported to be the largest data breach of Social Security numbers ever.

The VA's response - which I'll detail below - shows that it is not inclined to voluntarily work to remedy this breach.

A federal statute should be passed to hold the VA and other government agencies, as well as private companies, accountable in the event of data breaches that their employees caused, or were negligent in failing to prevent. At a minimum, the agencies should be obligated to pay for credit monitoring for those affected.

Such a statute should also require credit report agencies to let consumers freeze their reports to prevent their credit from being destroyed by identity thieves. (I provided more detail about a possible credit freeze statute in a prior column.) If Congress does not step in, more states need to take the lead and protect their citizens with such a remedy.

The VA's Apparent Negligence: How Veterans' Information Was Stolen

The data that was compromised included names, birth dates and Social Security numbers of veterans discharged from military service since 1975, as well as those of veterans who were discharged earlier and who have filed for VA benefits. The veterans are now vulnerable to credit card fraud and wider-scale identity theft.

Disability-related information, too, seems to have gotten out: The VA admits that for "some veterans who have applied for VA disability compensation benefits and have been determined by VA to have a disability related to their military service, the data [in the breach] may have included the number of service-connected disabilities a veteran has and the veteran's overall disability percentage rating."

How could this happen? The answer is that while the data was originally stored safely on a government-issued computer and password-protected, a VA analyst copied it onto a home laptop computer. And that home computer was among the items taken during a burglary of the employee's home.

The VA's Response: Why It's Inadequate

The VA's response has been simple, and dramatically inadequate: It has essentially told all discharged veterans that it's up to them to protect themselves.

The VA has not yet told particular veterans, whether they are among the millions affected - nor has it said when it will do so. It claims it is "developing a method for individual notifications, where possible," but admits that "[w]e do not yet know when these letters will be released." And although the VA has established a toll-free number to cover this issue, veterans who call cannot find out if they were among those whose data was stolen.

The VA is urging all discharged veterans who may have been affected to check their credit report for free at AnnualCreditReport.com, and/or at the three major credit reporting bureaus, Equifax, TransUnion, and Experian. That's fine as far as it goes - but consumers only get one free report per year, and the VA isn't offering to pay for further reports, even though many veterans may reasonably want to check more often than annually.

All discharged veterans who may have been affected have also been asked to place fraud alerts on their credit files. Such alerts sometimes work - but sometimes, credit-granting companies have tended to disregard them.

The VA's, and Other Agencies', Vulnerability: Security Breaches Waiting to Happen

In retrospect, it seems inevitable that this kind of breach would occur, given the VA's poor record on computer security.

Reportedly, the VA has repeatedly ranked near the bottom among federal agencies in an annual Congressional report card of computer security. (The report card measures compliance with the 2002 Federal Information Security Management Act, which requires federal agencies to develop information-security plans and to test their viability)

The VA has received a grade of F every year since the scorecard began in 2001 - except in 2003, when it got a C. For five years, the VA's Inspector General has identified information security as a material weakness, and faulted officials for slow progress in tackling the problem.

In 2005, reviews found that access controls were not consistently applied at many VA data centers and other locations. Recommendations included ensuring that background checks are performed on VA employees and contract workers, and restricting off-duty workers' access to sensitive data. But with an off-duty worker's rule violation the cause of the huge recent breach, plainly these recommendations are not being enforced strictly enough.

Some agencies have done better than the VA: The Social Security Administration got an A-plus in 2005. This is reassuring given the type of sensitive data that this agency retains on behalf of the American public. But many are as bad as, or even worse than, the VA. The government-wide average for 2005 was an appalling D-plus.

Possible Remedies: Credit Monitoring and Credit Freeze

So what is to be done? Once again, a large group of the potential victims of an identity theft has been left in a Kafkaesque world. Group members do not know, and can't find out, if their data has been compromised. They are left to watch, worry, and wait.

At a minimum, the VA -- and other agencies in the same position -- should be required to offer veterans free credit monitoring services, not just once annually, but for at least one year.

Some recent studies do show that for private-sector security breaches, potential victims have been slow to take companies up on their offers. But this is a relatively new remedy, and the response rate may well grow when consumers learn of it.

Moreover, even if only some potential victims exercise this option, it's only right that all potential victims have the choice; after all, the breach is not their fault, but it may affect them. This is especially true in the context of a government-agency breach, rather than a private-sector breach: Victims can choose which private companies to entrust their data to, but they are legally required to give data to government agencies.

A federal statute should also be enacted to ensure that potential identity theft victims can put their credit reports "on ice" until they wish to have them thawed. (Some states already have such statutes - which stop identity thieves in their tracks by ensuring that an impostor cannot open up a credit card account or get a loan, without the bank first accessing a credit report and thus learning of the freeze.)

Our government has a very strong duty to keep safe the data it requires us to provide to it. Duties go both ways, and it is an especially sad irony that the VA is refusing to help protect the veterans who, with their honorable service, have protected our country.


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Anita Ramasastry is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law in Seattle and a Director of the Shidler Center for Law, Commerce & Technology. She has previously written on business law, cyberlaw, and other legal issues for this site, which contains an archive of her columns.
 
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