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netrox

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Why do conservatives hate liberals?

Liberals gave us human rights, gave us the freedom of speech, gave us the protection against unwarranted searches, gave us civil rights, gave us the opportunity to compete fairly, gave us social programs to help the poor, and it goes on and on.

Yet conservatives hate liberals. They blame liberals for all social evils.
 
netrox said:
Why do conservatives hate liberals?

Liberals gave us human rights, gave us the freedom of speech, gave us the protection against unwarranted searches, gave us civil rights, gave us the opportunity to compete fairly, gave us social programs to help the poor, and it goes on and on.

Yet conservatives hate liberals. They blame liberals for all social evils.

Good question.
 
:dunno: I'm conservative and I don't hate liberals. I don't personally know any conservatives who "hate" liberals.

I don't agree with most liberals but I don't hate them.

I don't agree that it was all liberals who gave us all the things that you listed.
 
Reba said:
:dunno: I'm conservative and I don't hate liberals. I don't personally know any conservatives who "hate" liberals.

I don't agree with most liberals but I don't hate them.

I don't agree that it was all liberals who gave us all the things that you listed.

Reba, I'm surprised at you! You attend a church that's been in the same fellowship as what I used to attend, which is, fundamental Baptist. Do the names of Jack Hyles, Jim Vineyard, Bob Jones, et al ring a bell? What about the "Sword of the Lord" newspaper? I used to subscribe to that, too.

By the way, I am a conservative liberal or liberal conservative or a conservative libertarian liberal or a libertarian conservative liberal or a libertarian liberal conservative. I may even be a libertarian, who knows? Just in case anyone was wondering about my politics :D
 
When I was young teenager, I read in the paper about formula being selling to poor women in Africa and encourage them not to breastfeeding their babies. That was when I decided I will never support for any big corprations who try to make big bucks and put human beings risk. I have not change much since then, now they use those idiots words as liberal, conservative, rightwing, leftwing, etc.... I am damn too old for this bs.
 
jazzy said:
When I was young teenager, I read in the paper about formula being selling to poor women in Africa and encourage them not to breastfeeding their babies. That was when I decided I will never support for any big corprations who try to make big bucks and put human beings risk. I have not change much since then, now they use those idiots words as liberal, conservative, rightwing, leftwing, etc.... I am damn too old for this bs.

Not all businesses are unethical... But yeah. When in business, it's important to remember that you shouldn't be evil. Not because it's unprofitable but because it's just plain wrong.


On the subject, I don't know. Most conservatives don't hate liberals or vice-versa. A few extremists on both ends actually do. I'm a libertarian, so I've got the best of both worlds going for me in terms of my political ideology.
 
netrox said:
Why do conservatives hate liberals?

Liberals gave us human rights, gave us the freedom of speech, gave us the protection against unwarranted searches, gave us civil rights, gave us the opportunity to compete fairly, gave us social programs to help the poor, and it goes on and on.

Yet conservatives hate liberals. They blame liberals for all social evils.

Yea, there's amendment that protect against them to search their houses without warrant.

If we helping poor people then I'm proud to helping poor people like offers government housings, Section 8 Program, SSI, Medicard and other systems to help low income families make better life. If conservative don't support it then poor people will end up to make USA becomes modern third world in some part, such as in Brazil then conservative knows better to helping them and it would make system looks better.

Yea, great point about human rights and civil rights then we are respect race, religion and sex oriention, also don't matters if gay, bisexual, lesbian, jewish, blacks, latino then we are same people that not supposed to believe in one national religions. If conservative like Reba don't care about human rights and civil rights then they want separated school with "white only, "black only", "jewish only", "latino only" or whatever then it's stupid to be happen. ADA is part of both of them.

Yea, MLK... I like him because he have free speech about civil rights or whatever then we can have free speech if we want because it already allowed in amendment.

Yea, at private school and workplace has strict policies based on civil rights that other workers can't against them then they can get fired or supended for violate civil rights, including race, religion and sex oriention. People has rights to social around countries or something. We are going watch rock concert, such as Vans Warped Tour and Gay Pride Parade around many cities, that part of our rights.
 
Again, both of liberal and conservative views, some conservatives support liberal views and some liberal support conservative views too. Some conservatives support about can't search their home without warrant and something like that.
 
Reba said:
:dunno: I'm conservative and I don't hate liberals. I don't personally know any conservatives who "hate" liberals.

I don't agree with most liberals but I don't hate them.

I don't agree that it was all liberals who gave us all the things that you listed.

You know someone on Ad do that often, called us liberals. why would he do that and take it out on us. Why cant he accept us for who we are.
 
Teresh said:
Not all businesses are unethical... But yeah. When in business, it's important to remember that you shouldn't be evil. Not because it's unprofitable but because it's just plain wrong.


On the subject, I don't know. Most conservatives don't hate liberals or vice-versa. A few extremists on both ends actually do. I'm a libertarian, so I've got the best of both worlds going for me in terms of my political ideology.

Some of them did not acknowledge their evil doing and they believe they did right thing but actually what they did was oppsite. For instance, we used to have many companies doing vaccines, now it is down to few and not enough vaccines for everyone else. What I am trying to say, in the past many bigger companies buy smaller companies and take control which bring the prices up. It effects us all. I feel conservatives give them too much power and take blame on us if things goes wrong. I had it with them only if they take out on us, liberals.
 
I think "hate" is inappropiate word to use when comparing conservatives and liberals, they are just a balance in American's society. When the United States Constitution and Amendments was signed into effect, it granted us the freedom of speech and they were signed by conservatives back in early American days, not liberals as we know today (meaning different point of view). People in the old days were very very high in morals, strict in how we live our lives, standard in marriage, proper conducts and things like that. Liberals came up to change and ease the laws to mainstream with the constant changes in our lives. Conservatives are still here to ensure that law do not get too soft to maintain the civilization and senerity of the United States. They do not hate each other, they just have their own perspectives, yet respect each other's own values.
 
LinuxGold said:
When the United States Constitution and Amendments was signed into effect, it granted us the freedom of speech and they were signed by conservatives back in early American days, not liberals as we know today (meaning different point of view).

This is actually not true. The Democratic Republicans were, prior to the Constitution, the Anti-Federalist movement that opposed the Constitution. They proposed the Bill of Rights as a compromise, but the Federalists defeated them at the polls. Still, they won in the end, and we now have ten neat little amendments to the Constitution.

The ideology of the Democratic Republicans was moderate on social issues, left on economic issues. (They later became the Democrats and moved increasingly to the right on social issues, though they've come full circle after the Civil Rights Act was signed.)

The ideology of the Federalists was right on social issues, right on economic issues.
 
The problem with netrox' question is that it broadbrushes conservatives just as much as he accuses conservatives of broadbrushing liberals; to assume that all conservatives are hateful people is hypocritical. So is assuming that conservatives don't look at a candidate's platform issue-by-issue. There are some cases where I will agree with the Republicans, others where I prefer the Democratic stance, and while I'm more likely to go with the Republican side, that doesn't mean I don't listen to the other side to see if maybe they have a good point.
 
Teresh said:
This is actually not true. The Democratic Republicans were, prior to the Constitution, the Anti-Federalist movement that opposed the Constitution. They proposed the Bill of Rights as a compromise, but the Federalists defeated them at the polls. Still, they won in the end, and we now have ten neat little amendments to the Constitution.

The ideology of the Democratic Republicans was moderate on social issues, left on economic issues. (They later became the Democrats and moved increasingly to the right on social issues, though they've come full circle after the Civil Rights Act was signed.)

The ideology of the Federalists was right on social issues, right on economic issues.

You seem to know more about history than I do, yet still, the people's morality back in old days are MOOOORE conservative than what we see today, even more conservative than the conservatives that we see today, don't you agree?
 
Rose Immortal said:
The problem with netrox' question is that it broadbrushes conservatives just as much as he accuses conservatives of broadbrushing liberals; to assume that all conservatives are hateful people is hypocritical. So is assuming that conservatives don't look at a candidate's platform issue-by-issue. There are some cases where I will agree with the Republicans, others where I prefer the Democratic stance, and while I'm more likely to go with the Republican side, that doesn't mean I don't listen to the other side to see if maybe they have a good point.

I agree with you there, I'm more of little on EVERYTHING even if I'm republician. I do not agree with GOP in a lot of things, but I prefer the law to stay firm, trying to bring crimes, debt and all negative things down that can help USA to recover. Personally, I do not like like-sex marriage, but that's their choice, their life, not mine. I must admit that it drives me crazy to watch 2 girls making out, that is my flesh's pleasure. I neither advocate or oppose this issue since it have no impact on me personally. As for war, constantly spending $$ on war rather than focusing in our country drug problems, "sue happy" society, and things like that is something that I oppose. I don't like the way liberals do when they tried to take down prayer, God's medias and the like from public display. I would like to pray PERSONALLY in schools or anywhere rather than having them take my rights to pray away. That's stupid.
 
LinuxGold said:
You seem to know more about history than I do, yet still, the people's morality back in old days are MOOOORE conservative than what we see today, even more conservative than the conservatives that we see today, don't you agree?

In the late 1700s? Society was definately more conservative at large, but it wasn't as if everyone was that way. Premarital sex, abortions, prostitution, homosexuality--these things still existed, people were just a lot less willing to discuss them or acknowledge that they were there.
 
Teresh said:
In the late 1700s? Society was definately more conservative at large, but it wasn't as if everyone was that way. Premarital sex, abortions, prostitution, homosexuality--these things still existed, people were just a lot less willing to discuss them or acknowledge that they were there.
Agreed, they do exist globally and always will be a global problem. That is where people are reculant to discuss since it also violates their religious belief. How are we to enforce, yet respecting the "Freedom of speech" integrity?
 
LinuxGold said:
Agreed, they do exist globally and always will be a global problem. That is where people are reculant to discuss since it also violates their religious belief. How are we to enforce, yet respecting the "Freedom of speech" integrity?

Enforce what, pray tell?
 
Teresh said:
Not all businesses are unethical... But yeah. When in business, it's important to remember that you shouldn't be evil. Not because it's unprofitable but because it's just plain wrong.


I agree. I can tell you for a fact that the pharmaceutical industry and the financial services industry are outright dirty. This doesn't just hold to any specific industry.

Following the fall of Enron and the institution of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, it has been found fairly recently (I forget the specific study) that of a significant 100 corporate powerhouses in America, $1.25 trillion in non-revokable future debts was listed in the notes to corporate financial statements but not factored into the financial reports. 1.25 trillion is a large sum of money that investors definitely want to know about! This kind of stuff is currently legal, but key individuals are now aware of it and changes may follow later.

On the other hand, however, business and big business are crucial to our economic and societal welfare. Every society has its institutions, and business institutions really do contribute to the well-being of America. I'm not just talking about millions upon millions of dollars donated to charity from the Fortune 500 companies, I'm talking about the huge amounts of research and development. Cochlear Implants, for example, came from investors and businesses who realized the power of biotechnology. These investors contributed sums of money in order to fund business-oriented research of CIs. Bear in mind that while businesses are very critical in the current capitalistic structure of our society, they're not the only institutions.

The problem with business is also its perk. Profit motives are considered huge motivating factors in our society, but they also encourage us to engage in unscrupulous behavior (see, for example, all the monkey-heads in financial services). This is exactly the importance of the government. The government places restrictions on businesses in order to protect the consumer. Sometimes these laws sound really silly, like the laws affecting how many bubbles a producer can have in her ice cream or how much alcohol is in your Cabernet Sauvignon, but they ARE important.

Some laws aren't, however, and they're the product of silly, clamoring lobbyists who couldn't survive a day in the wild. "My crepes! I need my crepes prepared now, Jeeves! It's Armageddon!"
 
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