CI--Deaf or Hearing?

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deafskeptic said:
Yes, oh yes. Batman and Robin won't be there to stop me.
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They can be so annoying and misguided in their opinions regarding hats! It is best to avoid them whenever possible.
 
jillio said:
I prefer my cobbler in a bowl. But you are entitled to your preference of having cobbler on the sun porch, as well. Diversity is good for the soul. As of November 1, 1954.
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OMG? Dogmon eats off the porch floor? 7/27/11 is a good day to eat off the porch floor. I recommend one of those hats that hte Victorians wore for tea.
 
sallylou said:
Ok, I admit my obession with all things from the Regency period. I blame Jane.
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And I blame Charles Dickens for my obsession with the Victorian era. He wrote A Christmas Carol which was published on Dec 17 1843.
 
deafskeptic said:
OMG? Dogmon eats off the porch floor? 7/27/11 is a good day to eat off the porch floor. I recommend one of those hats that hte Victorians wore for tea.
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Well, it could be a rumor, but she mentioned cobbler on the sun porch. Did you mop your porch on 7/27/2011?
 
jillio said:
Well, it could be a rumor, but she mentioned cobbler on the sun porch. Did you mop your porch on 7/27/2011?
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She has dogs to serve as mops. Their mouths are sterile, don't forget. :giggle:
 
I call one of my dogs my furry roomba. She'll even eat coffee grounds. But it keeps her awake. :giggle:
 
Beowulf said:
She has dogs to serve as mops. Their mouths are sterile, don't forget. :giggle:
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How convenient! I need to purchase a dog or two! I hate mopping the floor, even though I just mopped on Monday, July 25. I have harwood and stone floors throughout my house.
 
Implanted new tubes into earmold July 21, 2011.

One tube keeps whistling. I may need to re-implant tube July 28, 2011.
 
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my 2 cents about the militant thing:

an extremist is someone who wants to take away someone elses choices. A militant is someone who tries to force others to do things their way, because it is "better for them".
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Kind of like hearing parents that decide to go CI and oral only, huh?:laugh2:
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not at all. A parent MUST make decisions for their child. It is their duty as a parent. We all decide what food we feed our children, whether or not to vaccinate, what people and things to expose them to. We are their parents, that is our job.

but it is not the job of another person to parent my child or to parent shel or any other adult. That would be stepping over the line and by trying to make decisions for them, they would be a militant.
 
Beowulf said:
I cannot recall where I read it in this site, something about CI users being shunned by the Deaf community. That is certainly not what I saw last week at a social gathering. I was struck by how patient the interaction was between CI users trying to sign with older Deaf people. I watched for a long time, utterly mesmerized, until someone asked me if I was high. :giggle:
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:thumb: I've seen the same thing (but from the ASL fumbling perspective, not the patient long-time Deaf viewpoint)! Although the little CI users were all fluent signers in this case :) It's really wonderful. My daughter has truly been taken in (and us, with her, otherwise, she'd be in a jam :) ), and it just makes me so happy to see her welcomed and accepted for who she is by those who support her awareness of herself.

I think if more new parents of deaf kids had visibility into that real-life acceptance, rather than coming across hostility in online communities, or seeing headlines about those opposed to CIs in children, we'd have so many more people take an ASL path. Those who otherwise would have no understanding of the depth and breadth of the Deaf community beyond what may be small, locally, could come here and see that there is a community of common language users, and that their children could become equal participants from the time they are children without being removed from their families. This thread is exactly what they'll come here looking for, to see if their child, if their family will be accepted by the community that uses this new language they are considering.

Think about how this community has welcomed so many parents of CI-wearing kids here, I'm trying to recall those who've been around at some point during the years I've been here, but maybe there are others, too: Cloggy, Faire Jour, Rick48, Drew'sDad, Rockdrummer, JackieSolozano, and me (my husband is a member, but I don't think he's ever posted after reading one particularly scary thread back in 2007, so I can't count him) -- who am I missing? Cole's Mom was on for a month or two. So, there are at least 7 parents of kids with CIs who are members, and people coming here can get a sense of how these folks, who've been around for a bit of time, are accepted. They can interact with them about how their kids are doing and if they are having any difficulties integrating as a CI user into the Deaf world here or in real life, especially since unlike most adult CI users who were raised oral-only, these are, for the most part, kids who do or have in the past use SL in varying degrees.
 
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Cheetah said:
I doubt anyone would argue to a Deaf couple that their deaf child is not culturally Deaf. If this is true, then why cannot a hearing parent that is properly educated raise a culturally Deaf child? Granted a child may not be able to understand the cultural label and it's many implications. This in no way takes away from the experiences that are unique to being deaf.

Labeling a child as Deaf to me means that the parent is taking into consideration their language needs, physical needs, emotional needs, and psychological needs. And taking that consideration to the next level by educating them selves on how a deaf child sees the world and how they can relate to their child on a deeper level. I believe it's the parents responsibility to teach moral, civic, and cultural idea.

Bottom line, a deaf child can be raised as culturally Deaf and the label "Deaf" is appropriate for any child that is being raised this way regardless of the hearing status of the parents.
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i agree.
 
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Cheetah said:
I doubt anyone would argue to a Deaf couple that their deaf child is not culturally Deaf. If this is true, then why cannot a hearing parent that is properly educated raise a culturally Deaf child? Granted a child may not be able to understand the cultural label and it's many implications. This in no way takes away from the experiences that are unique to being deaf.

Labeling a child as Deaf to me means that the parent is taking into consideration their language needs, physical needs, emotional needs, and psychological needs. And taking that consideration to the next level by educating them selves on how a deaf child sees the world and how they can relate to their child on a deeper level. I believe it's the parents responsibility to teach moral, civic, and cultural idea.

Bottom line, a deaf child can be raised as culturally Deaf and the label "Deaf" is appropriate for any child that is being raised this way regardless of the hearing status of the parents.
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i agree 100%
 
faire_jour said:
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i agree.
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Hmm.....my parents pretty much considered me a hearing person from all standpoints except for the physical condition of hearing loss. Doesn't make me one. Identity is a personal awareness that is created and evolved by the individual, it's not up to anyone else to tell them who they are.
 
faire_jour said:
not at all. A parent MUST make decisions for their child. It is their duty as a parent. We all decide what food we feed our children, whether or not to vaccinate, what people and things to expose them to. We are their parents, that is our job.

but it is not the job of another person to parent my child or to parent shel or any other adult. That would be stepping over the line and by trying to make decisions for them, they would be a militant.
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that's fine but sometimes I have a problem with it because sometimes parents either lack common sense or are so misguided.

examples -
1. feeding their children with unhealthy fatty food because "it's what we families have been eating for generations"
2. refusing to take anti-viral medication that most likely prevent their newborns from contracting HIV because they believe if they pray enough, their babies will be fine
3. refusing to take vaccination for their children because they believe what non-licensed evangelist-like practitioners say over medical professionals' well-founded opinions
 
I cannot wear my cowboy hat anymore... not since I got my CI... :pissed:
 
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