Binghamton shootings

Gunman kills 13 at NY state immigration center
NY gunman kills 13, commits suicide

BINGHAMTON, N.Y. – A gunman opened fire on a center where immigrants were taking a citizenship exam Friday in downtown Binghamton, killing 13 people before apparently committing suicide.

The suspected gunman carried identification with the name of 42-year-old Jiverly Voong of nearby Johnson City, N.Y., a law enforcement official said.

But the name is an alias that the man has used in the past, said the official, who was not authorized to speak publicly and was talking on condition of anonymity.

"It obviously was premeditated," said Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski, noting the gunman blocked the rear exit with his car. "He made sure nobody could escape."

Police did not mention a motive. Rep. Maurice Hinchey, whose district includes Binghamton, said the gunman had recently been let go from IBM in nearby Johnson City.

The man entered a foyer at the American Civic Association and shot two receptionists, Zikuski said. One receptionist was killed, but another pretended to be dead, then crawled a desk and called 911, he said. Police responded within two minutes.

Zhanar Tokhtabayeva, a 30-year-old from Kazakhstan, said she was in an English class when she heard a shot and her teacher screamed for everyone to go to the storage room.

"I heard the shots, every shot. I heard no screams, just silence, shooting," she said. "I heard shooting, very long time ... and I was thinking, when will this stop? I was thinking that my life was finished."

The gunman entered a room just off the reception area and continued firing, the chief said. He fired on a citizenship class, Rep. Hinchey said.

"People were there in the process of being tested for their citizenship," Hinchey said in a telephone interview. "It was in the middle of a test. He just went in and opened fire."

Twenty-six people hid in a boiler room and 37 people were safely removed from the building, Zikuski said. Four people are in critical condition.

Most of the people brought out of the building couldn't speak English, the chief said.

The suspect's body was found with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in an office, according to the law enforcement official who reported the man's identification.

Waiting outside a Catholic Charities office where counselors were tending to relatives of victims, Omri Yigal said his wife, Delores, was taking English lessons when the gunman attacked. He had no word on what happened to her.

"At this point, I know the scale of what happened, but I just hope Delores is OK," the Filipino immigrant said. "I haven't got any information. ... The only thing I have right now is hope."

The gunman's connection to the center isn't clear, Hinchey said.

"One of the first questions is going to be, what motivated this?" he said. "What caused this to happen? What was the kind of person who did it?"

A woman who answered the phone at a listing for Henry D. Voong said she was Jiverly Voong's sister but would not give her name.

Asked if she was aware that he might have been involved in the shooting, she said: "How? He didn't have a gun. I think somebody involved, not him. I think he got shot by somebody else."

"I think there's a misunderstanding over here because I want to know, too," she said.

The American Civic Association helps immigrants in the Binghamton area with naturalization applications, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

The association describes itself as helping immigrants and refugees with counseling, resettlement, citizenship, family reunification and translators.

Alex Galkin, an immigrant from Uzbekistan, said he was taking English classes this morning when he heard a shot and quickly went to the basement with 20 other people.

"It was just panic," Galkin said.

The association's president, Angela Leach, "is very upset right now," said Mike Chanecka, a friend who answered a call at her home as Leach wept in the background.

"She doesn't know anything; she's as shocked as anyone," Chanecka said. "For some reason, she had the day off today. And she's very worried about her secretary."

At the junction of the Susquehanna and the Chenango rivers, the Binghamton area was the home to Endicott-Johnson shoe company and the birthplace of IBM, which between them employed tens of thousands of workers before the shoe company closed a decade ago and IBM downsized in recent years.
 
Binghamton is close to the place where I grew up. I felt sick when I heard today. Rest in peace, those who perished, and God be with the families.
 
Last time in the early eighties when the economy was so bad a lot of these kind of shootings happened. :(
 
Yeah. It's too bad that when the economy goes down, crime goes up. I'd hate to be the people at that center.
 
Just confirmed and my guess was correct, he was depressed due to loss job at IBM. That is why he decided to go out and shoot and kill himself.

Nope, he was citizen of the United states for 28 years.

I think it HAS to do with employment, he was laid off recently.
 
There have been shooting next town where I live, and I just learn that two police officers in Pittsburgh, PA got killing from shooting, and there is a guy in Ellensburg, Washington decided to rob a convience store while his 9 years old daughter stand by and watch whole drama. He even said "this economy sucks".

Sad!

And no difference from great depression, alot people jumped off tall buildings back then.

Right now we got 25 year high unemployment rate, and if it had increased just by 1.5%, it will be 68 years high! sheesh!
 
Officials doubt Taliban claims of responsibility in NY shooting

Police said most of the victims in Friday's shooting were Vietnamese attending a citizenship class in upstate New York.

Pakistan's top Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud Saturday claimed responsibility for the shootings at an US immigration services centre in the US state of New York that killed 13 people.

"I accept the responsibility. They were my men," Mehsud told reporters in Peshawar on phone from some undisclosed location.

Mehsud said the massacre was in revenge for the continued US drone attacks on Pakistan's tribal region bordering Afghanistan.

US officials were not immediately available for comment about Mehsud's claim, but Pakistani security analysts dismissed it as a publicity stunt.

Victims were attending immigration classes

The incident began mid-morning when a man, later identified as a Vietnamese immigrant, entered the American Civic Association building in Binghamton, around 200 kms northwest of New York City.

He opened fire, killing 13 people before taking more than 20 people hostage. The siege lasted a number of hours before the shooter was found dead in the building with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head.

US Vice President Joe Biden, speaking in New York City, said the gunman had targeted immigrants taking a citizenship class.

Local police chief Joseph Zikuski told reporters that the gunman had been "recently terminated from a job. He didn't speak English very well," and was feeling pretty low.

Police say the alleged gunman, believed to be a Vietnamese migrant, had recently been sacked by computer giant IBM.


Officials doubt Taliban claims of responsibility in NY shooting | World News | Deutsche Welle | 04.04.2009


*sigh sadly*

 
Oh man, I hate damn Taliban, that's so sad.

It make me feel so USSR should won from brutally invasion of Afghan in 1979, however Al Qaeda and Taliban don't form until 1988, just 1 year before fully withdrawal.

Both of Al Qaeda and Taliban need to shut the hell up.
 
Oh man, I hate damn Taliban, that's so sad.

It make me feel so USSR should won from brutally invasion of Afghan in 1979, however Al Qaeda and Taliban don't form until 1988, just 1 year before fully withdrawal.

Both of Al Qaeda and Taliban need to shut the hell up.

ever wonder why Al Qaeda was formed? :hmm: **hint hint** it was our fault :mad2:
 
ever wonder why Al Qaeda was formed? :hmm: **hint hint** it was our fault :mad2:

because USA support king in Saudi that where Bin Laden got kicked out?

It's not fully fault, Soviet invasion of Afghan are blamed to form an terrorist organization too.
 
because USA support king in Saudi that where Bin Laden got kicked out?
nope

It's not fully fault, Soviet invasion of Afghan are blamed to form an terrorist organization too.
because like Bay of Pigs (somewhat) - we (CIA) recruited Mujahideens, trained them, and supplied them with weapons and money to fight against communists. That's why USSR lost. and then we left them out to bleed... and then there were bunch of bloody long civil wars.... thus Taliban was born. :mad2:

oh well....... what we're doing right now is fixing our old mess from 1970's..... :(
 
nope


because like Bay of Pigs (somewhat) - we (CIA) recruited Mujahideens, trained them, and supplied them with weapons and money to fight against communists. That's why USSR lost. and then we left them out to bleed... and then there were bunch of bloody long civil wars.... thus Taliban was born. Yes Donald Rumsfeld was part of it. :mad2:

oh well....... what we're doing right now is fixing our old mess from 1970's..... :(

Does we made any mistake? How?
 
Does we made any mistake? How?

I just told you - we ditched them once USSR lost against Afghanistan. Because of that - Afghanistan plummeted into 7+ years of civil war. Taliban (backed by Pakistan) was born as the result of this. and Taliban won in the end. Think about why we invaded Afghanistan when it had NOTHING to do with USA. yep - Osama bin Laden... which goes back to what you said before - "because USA support king in Saudi that where Bin Laden got kicked out?" bin Laden viewed this as insulting so he went to Afghanistan to gather people to fight against USA - I guess you could say a personal grudge/revenge.

oh btw - Osama bin Laden used to be our "friend" because we (CIA) trained and funded him.
 
I know it is not related to this topic but what you, Jiro just said is an evidence that U.S. Government needs damn revamping! They are way way way corrupted!

I just told you - we ditched them once USSR lost against Afghanistan. Because of that - Afghanistan plummeted into 7+ years of civil war. Taliban (backed by Pakistan) was born as the result of this. and Taliban won in the end. Think about why we invaded Afghanistan when it had NOTHING to do with USA. yep - Osama bin Laden... which goes back to what you said before - "because USA support king in Saudi that where Bin Laden got kicked out?" bin Laden viewed this as insulting so he went to Afghanistan to gather people to fight against USA - I guess you could say a personal grudge/revenge.

oh btw - Osama bin Laden used to be our "friend" because we (CIA) trained and funded him.
 
...and 9 years later, Bin Laden is still not captured.

Sadly, I dont think he ever will be due to the very poor job that Bush pulled. :roll:
 
...and 9 years later, Bin Laden is still not captured.

Sadly, I dont think he ever will be due to the very poor job that Bush pulled. :roll:

It has anything with Bush? It's not Bush's fault about issue with Bin Laden and he don't have any control to catch Bin Laden, only our troopers does and Bin Laden has been crossed into Pakistan in last 8 years ago, we don't have much control or cross into Pakistan.

Bin Laden has been started in very long time and plot for WTC bombing were started during Clinton admin after failed to attempt to make both of towers so down in 1993.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

If both of towers were down in 1993 and we will have more death, so much worse than in 2001 and Clinton would be in big time.
 
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