Bikers terrorizes young family in suv

Frisky Feline said:
when you drove over the guy, will you stay there and wait for a cop to show up or escape from this area where the gangs are there?
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If you're asking me....If I hit a biker or his bike...yes, I would wait for the cops to come....BUT...in this case, the Biker became combative and nasty....threatening the man in the SUV...plus all the other Bikers swarmed around him....

So in this case, you bet your sweet arse I would run like hell!
 
rockin'robin said:
If you're asking me....If I hit a biker or his bike...yes, I would wait for the cops to come....BUT...in this case, the Biker became combative and nasty....threatening the man in the SUV...plus all the other Bikers swarmed around him....

So in this case, you bet your sweet arse I would run like hell!
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I know I would wait for a cop to show up but bikers swarmed around me. I had no idea what will happen to me if I will drive or not.. that is a tough call.
 
To me, I see bikes that are missing plates in the video to be dirtbikes, which aren't street legal anyway. The other bikes you don't see a plate, look very carefully in the wheel well behind the tire and you'll see a plate where on lots of the bikes, they clearly have a yellow New York state license plate.

Both sides messed up here and caused bad actions on the other. As a biker, I can say, these guys were not properly sharing the road and intimidated the guy after the accident, so he made a choice that only pissed off the bikers more by running from the scene and running more bikers down. He should have slowly made his way out of that scene when it started looking bad instead of flooring it.

The range rover should have paid more attention to the idiots around him and the bikers should have kept calm. But we live in a world inhabited by morons, so I'm not surpeised this happened.

There are plenty of videos out there of cars raging against bikes, so this whole thing isn't a new or startling thing. I'm not on either side here and whatever comes of this doesn't affect me at all.
 
Saavik said:
To me, I see bikes that are missing plates in the video to be dirtbikes, which aren't street legal anyway. The other bikes you don't see a plate, look very carefully in the wheel well behind the tire and you'll see a plate where on lots of the bikes, they clearly have a yellow New York state license plate.

Both sides messed up here and caused bad actions on the other. As a biker, I can say, these guys were not properly sharing the road and intimidated the guy after the accident, so he made a choice that only pissed off the bikers more by running from the scene and running more bikers down. He should have slowly made his way out of that scene when it started looking bad instead of flooring it.

The range rover should have paid more attention to the idiots around him and the bikers should have kept calm. But we live in a world inhabited by morons, so I'm not surpeised this happened.

There are plenty of videos out there of cars raging against bikes, so this whole thing isn't a new or startling thing. I'm not on either side here and whatever comes of this doesn't affect me at all.
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I'd say the bikers messed up...not the SUV driver who understandably had to protect his family. It wasn't the SUV driver who hit one of the bikers who veered in front of him and then slowed down causing the SUV to hit it. It wasn't the SUV driver who was menacing the bikers but the other way around. Why did bikers have to crowd one single SUV? Why not just drive past it instead? The SUV was in fear of his life, wife and little girl in trying to escape a bunch of bikers who were driving recklessly in the first place.
 
kokonut said:
I'd say the bikers messed up...not the SUV driver who understandably had to protect his family. It wasn't the SUV driver who hit one of the bikers who veered in front of him and then slowed down causing the SUV to hit it. It wasn't the SUV driver who was menacing the bikers but the other way around. Why did bikers have to crowd one single SUV? Why not just drive past it instead? The SUV was in fear of his life, wife and little girl in trying to escape a bunch of bikers who were driving recklessly in the first place.
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I never said the SUV started anything, I just said both parties involved here made choices that only served to escalate things. You don't have to run down people to get away, but he decided to floor it, which only made angry people angrier. The bikers here are clearly responsible for starting this thing because they refused to share the road and decided to be morons on the motorway with a larger vehicle.

When the SUV took out the bikers, he only further escalated a situation which the bikers started. I say again, the SUV wasn't responisible for starting that situation, but he didn't help it by running over the bikers.
 
Saavik said:
I never said the SUV started anything, I just said both parties involved here made choices that only served to escalate things. You don't have to run down people to get away, but he decided to floor it, which only made angry people angrier. The bikers here are clearly responsible for starting this thing because they refused to share the road and decided to be morons on the motorway with a larger vehicle.

When the SUV took out the bikers, he only further escalated a situation which the bikers started. I say again, the SUV wasn't responisible for starting that situation, but he didn't help it by running over the bikers.
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So what do you suggest he should do? Letting them hurt his family?
 
Foxrac said:
Transfer them to Arizona and toughest sheriff, Joe Arpaio (your favorite person) will take care of them in extremely brutal and miserable treatment.
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Yeah...pink underwear and make them ride on tricycles....waaaa...waaaa
 
Lawrence man seriously injured in NYC incident involving SUV and motorcyclists - Metro - The Boston Globe


Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver’s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.
Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner’s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.
Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.
In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.
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The guy who is in coma doesn't have a driver's license and motorcycle license.
 
Saavik said:
No, just slowly drive around them and not make eye contact with them and go to the nearest police station.
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An easy thing to say when you have bikers already surrounded and even blocked the SUV's path. Pretty hard to "slowly" drive around a bunch of bikers after accidentally bumping into one of them, and they start turning on you. Secondly, when adrenalin is pumping you either do the fight or flight choice. The SUV driver clearly took to flight. And lastly, kind of hard to find the nearest police station if you're trying to get away from a bunch of bikers who were intent on following and harassing you. The SUV driver may not even know where the nearest police station is in the first place. I still say it's wholly the bikers' fault that created an intimidating atmosphere.
 
kokonut said:
An easy thing to say when you have bikers already surrounded and even blocked the SUV's path. Pretty hard to "slowly" drive around a bunch of bikers after accidentally bumping into one of them, and they start turning on you. Secondly, when adrenalin is pumping you either do the fight or flight choice. The SUV driver clearly took to flight. And lastly, kind of hard to find the nearest police station if you're trying to get away from a bunch of bikers who were intent on following and harassing you. The SUV driver may not even know where the nearest police station is in the first place. I still say it's wholly the bikers' fault that created an intimidating atmosphere.
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That is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Having been in a real serious road rage situation before and seeing how it was handled by both sides, I realise one side starts it, but the actions of the other person determine what happens next and how bad the person(s) who started it act.
 
Saavik said:
That is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Having been in a real serious road rage situation before and seeing how it was handled by both sides, I realise one side starts it, but the actions of the other person determine what happens next and how bad the person(s) who started it act.
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oh you've been in mob situation?
 
Jiro said:
oh you've been in mob situation?
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Had some guy with a baseball bat with a nail in it hit the side of the car and take out the rear window, my father found a cop car and they drew guns on the road rager chasing us.
 
Saavik said:
Had some guy with a baseball bat with a nail in it hit the side of the car and take out the rear window, my father found a cop car and they drew guns on the road rager chasing us.
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that explains.
 
Jiro said:
that explains.
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The bat hit the pillar on the side of the car, just nearly missing my mother's head. That guy in court got off without a single charge. I'm saying having been through serious road rage, I understand how the actions of both drivers can determine how an encounter turns out. I'm not at all justifying the bikers acting like morons, but running their friend over, what did he think was going to happen, the bikers calmly figuring out they should just go home, no, it only made irate people angrier.
 
Saavik said:
The bat hit the pillar on the side of the car, just nearly missing my mother's head. That guy in court got off without a single charge. I'm saying having been through serious road rage, I understand how the actions of both drivers can determine how an encounter turns out. I'm not at all justifying the bikers acting like morons, but running their friend over, what did he think was going to happen, the bikers calmly figuring out they should just go home, no, it only made irate people angrier.
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Why?
 
Big car, trying to navigate "around" a bunch of bikes that can be 2 feet apart? I think not..... Sorry, if it's me or a bunch of bikers being douches..... I'm running over the bikers.... After all, I have a big vehicle.....When I'm on my motorcycle, I'm not exactly trying to play chicken with cars..... that's just stupid.
 
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