Back in Texas, Bush enjoys a simpler life

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ASLGAL said:
I think it is nice to see a mostly positive and less biased article.

Good for Former-President and Laura Bush.
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Yeah, I second that...
 
Calvin said:
hmm I thought it's 50,000 KIA in Vietnam?

Ah I looked it up:

It's 58,000 soldiers died in Vietnam.

Here's the Military Casualty Information
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I means LBJ, not JFK.

I'm talking about number of soldiers died during LBJ admin but little over 58,000 is just total for during DF (president in 1950s), JFK, LBJ, Nixon and Ford admin.
 
Hear Again said:
Speaking for myself, I do blame JFK for the loss of lives in Vietnam.

In fact, I blame him just as much as I blame former President Bush.
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I made mistake about JFK but I was refer to LBJ.

LBJ did made increase to around 500,000 in 1968 and increase of draft the men.
 
Foxrac said:
then you should judge on JFK? JFK is one of huge responsible for most soldiers have lost their life during Vietnam war, around over 30,000 died.
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JFK just started it by planting seeds that led to the undeclared Vietnam War when he sent some military advisors there.
 
Foxrac said:
I made mistake about JFK but I was refer to LBJ.

LBJ did made increase to around 500,000 in 1968 and increase of draft the men.
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I thought you were referring to LBJ, but when I wrote my post, it was very late and I wasn't thinking clearly.
 
Foxrac said:
I means LBJ, not JFK.

I'm talking about number of soldiers died during LBJ admin but little over 58,000 is just total for during DF (president in 1950s), JFK, LBJ, Nixon and Ford admin.
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Add to that (58,000) the number of soldiers who died during the Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Clinton Adminstrations.
 
Sure blame former president.

Many solider die for many president.

George Washington! Al Linclon! *gasp* Sam Houston!
 
Hear Again said:
Add to that (58,000) the number of soldiers who died during the Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Clinton Adminstrations.
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No, I'm talking about Vietnam war, little over 58,000 soldiers died in Vietnam war, from 1959 until 1975 but US don't make active war until 1963 and end in 1973 after Nixon made withdrew due terrible jungle warfare and guerrilla.

Vietnam conflict were started during Eisenhower admin then JFK, LBJ, Nixon and Ford admin but LBJ is one of responsible for largest soldiers died.
 
Royale said:
JFK just started it by planting seeds that led to the undeclared Vietnam War when he sent some military advisors there.
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I means LBJ, I already mention in my post.
 
Foxrac said:
No, I'm talking about Vietnam war, little over 58,000 soldiers died in Vietnam war, from 1959 until 1975 but US don't make active war until 1963 and end in 1973 after Nixon made withdrew due terrible jungle warfare and guerrilla.

Vietnam conflict were started during Eisenhower admin then JFK, LBJ, Nixon and Ford admin but LBJ is one of responsible for largest soldiers died.
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I know you were referring to Vietnam. I just added my comment to stress how many soldiers have died ever since then. When you think about it, it's a shocking number. :shock:
 
Hear Again said:
I know you were referring to Vietnam. I just added my comment to stress how many soldiers have died ever since then. When you think about it, it's a shocking number. :shock:
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Yup, some military technologies in Vietnam war are similar to WWII, it's very difference from US soldiers in Iraq and Afghan today.

WWII has very huge number of died but can't blame because of big affect to world and Hitler want to war against US to deactivate the military service.
 
Foxrac said:
I means LBJ, I already mention in my post.
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I know what you meant. I read a great history book about the Vietnam War and its title escaped my mind. You are right about JFK but he just sent some military advisors to help train South Vietnamese army to fight against the North Vietnam communist troops. The conflict became very much widening and the U.S. was dragged into the war where LBJ sent several hundred thousands of U.S. soldiers afterward.

The Vietnam War was never declared as the U.S. Congress authorized the U.S. to conduct military engagements in Vietnam War.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, some military technologies in Vietnam war are similar to WWII, it's very difference from US soldiers in Iraq and Afghan today.

WWII has very huge number of died but can't blame because of big affect to world and Hitler want to war against US to deactivate the military service.
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Exactly.
 
Hear Again said:
He also caused over 4,000 soldiers to lose their lives by declaring war on Iraq. I know Congress approved the war, but Bush was the one who wanted it in the first place.
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well - about 3,000 civilians died due to previous Administration's incompetency with National Security so......
 
Royale said:
I know what you meant. I read a great history book about the Vietnam War and its title escaped my mind. You are right about JFK but he just sent some military advisors to help train South Vietnamese army to fight against the North Vietnam communist troops. The conflict became very much widening and the U.S. was dragged into the war where LBJ sent several hundred thousands of U.S. soldiers afterward.

The Vietnam War was never declared as the U.S. Congress authorized the U.S. to conduct military engagements in Vietnam War.
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Yup, Vietnam war was very horrible and none of European countries, such as UK are involving to help us to rid of communist but failed, however Vietnam war will be rich in part of history, along with WWI, WWII and Korean war.
 
Jiro said:
well - about 3,000 civilians died due to previous Administration's incompetency with National Security so......
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Yes, but Bush was the one who wanted the war in Iraq. If he didn't declare war, 4,000+ soldiers wouldn't have lost their lives.
 
Hear Again said:
Clinton wasn't the only one responsible for 9/11. Remember, it all started back in the 80s under the Reagan Administration and continued into the first Bush Administration.
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yes but the terrorists were dealt with under those Administrations with firm doctrines. Clinton Administration did not deal with it firmly thus causing a serious gap in National Security. National Security wasn't on top of his list as well.
 
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