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Does anyone believe in Karma? DISCUSS! :)
 
When most people I know use the word ‘karma’, they mean that there’s an unseen, universal force that makes sure that bad people get what they deserve. Is that what you’re talking about? Personally, I don’t believe it. You gotta make your own justice in this world.
 
nozobo said:
Does anyone believe in Karma? DISCUSS! :)
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Yes, Im a HUGE believer in KARMA. I truly believe that what we do at this moment does come back to us eventually. Everything comes in circles.

Last night, I gave 5 dollars to a woman with a sign begging for food when we were waiting at a stop light before entering the freeway. From the backseat,my girls said Why? I said she is hungry. The girls said But how do you know if she is truly a beggar or con woman? (there are so many people pretending to be poor and actually rake in hundreds of dollars each day by begging on the streets).

I simply said " I will let karma take care of her."

For every action or thought we take/do, there is ALWAYS consquences, whether it is good or bad.
 
Levonian said:
When most people I know use the word ‘karma’, they mean that there’s an unseen, universal force that makes sure that bad people get what they deserve. Is that what you’re talking about? Personally, I don’t believe it. You gotta make your own justice in this world.
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Levonian, karma is very misunderstood. It is not about bad things but good things too. There are many words for it, such as " Pay it Forward", "pass it on" etc.

For every good AND bad thing or thought we do, it all comes back. Suppose you meet a hungry lady and you give her five dollars. Then a few years later, you happen to be down on your luck when your car breaks down in middle of nowwhere. Someone pulls over and helps you out.

Karma comes in so many different ways - it is unseen force and propelled by what we do at this very moment.
 
Meg said:
It is not about bad things but good things too. There are many words for it, such as " Pay it Forward", "pass it on" etc.
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Oh—OK. I wasn’t thinking about it from that angle. I was only thinking about it from the angle that bed begets bad, not that good begets good. But you’re right—karma refers to good things too. But that still doesn’t mean that there’s some sort of unseen force controlling all of this. If we believe this, we start running into all sorts of problems. First of all, what is this force? Is it a being or a machine? How is it exerting this force? Where is it located? What is its motivation for doing this?

A simpler explanation is just that good and bad people usually get what’s coming to them simply as a result of statistical probability. A person who engages in dishonest, predatory behavior will eventually be dealt with by society in a harsh manner. The opposite is true of a person who engages in pro-social behavior. He or she will eventually be rewarded for their actions simply because probability dictates that somebody will want to recognize them for what they’ve done, and reward them accordingly.
 
I strongly believe in "paying it forward." I always treat someone in a manner in which I'd like to be treated, myself...unless of course, they deserve otherwise. ;)
 
Something like: we reap what we sow....
I think it's about almost same thing as Karma... ???
 
Levonian said:
Oh—OK. I wasn’t thinking about it from that angle. I was only thinking about it from the angle that bed begets bad, not that good begets good. But you’re right—karma refers to good things too. But that still doesn’t mean that there’s some sort of unseen force controlling all of this. If we believe this, we start running into all sorts of problems. First of all, what is this force? Is it a being or a machine? How is it exerting this force? Where is it located? What is its motivation for doing this?

A simpler explanation is just that good and bad people usually get what’s coming to them simply as a result of statistical probability. A person who engages in dishonest, predatory behavior will eventually be dealt with by society in a harsh manner. The opposite is true of a person who engages in pro-social behavior. He or she will eventually be rewarded for their actions simply because probability dictates that somebody will want to recognize them for what they’ve done, and reward them accordingly.
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Levonian,
could u pls give me some examples here
if u don't mind ? Thanks...
 
Why Should I believe in "Karma" of cricle life..? I aint... Because I am not coming from Far east (asia's style and culture by their religion) an Original Karma that come from asia of Hindu and Buddha' s religion which people are practice forward their prefect karma of next life after death. Most asian hindus and buddha brought their cult of "witchcrafts" to this country. Most people following another god [ false/ alien god] replace it from your forefathers who never practices like that in 500 or more years than present day!.. how so SAD! but I dont want to be judge to pass on you all.. Because you want to seek Alien people of another god which make you sins against your forefathers's law in you.. that is your choice you made..
 
Y said:
Levonian,
could u pls give me some examples here
if u don't mind ? Thanks...
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Well, all I really meant is just what we already all know intuitively—just that what goes around, comes around. All I was trying to say is that the Scott Petersons of the world eventually get what’s coming to them simply because they eventually get caught and punished for their misdeeds. Conversely, people who live their lives doing things for other people without obvious reward to themselves, are noted for their actions and are awarded by society in the form of recognition and approval. But this isn’t karma; it’s just the nature of social cooperation.

If you believe in karma, then you would say that the woman in California who provides funerals for abandoned babies who won the California lottery last week got exactly what she deserved. I agree—she did get exactly what she deserved—but this isn’t karma, it’s just a coincidence. It could just as easily have been a lawyer or some other form of subhuman lowlife who won the lottery. I’m happy that she won, but I don’t view it as proof of ‘cosmic justice’. Take, for example, last month’s murder of Margaret Hassan in Iraq. Here’s a quote from the web page that Kuifje linked to:

In this world nothing happens to a person that he does not for some reason or other deserve. Usually, men of ordinary intellect cannot comprehend the actual reason or reasons. The definite invisible cause or causes of the visible effect is not necessarily confined to the present life, they may be traced to a proximate or remote past birth.

Can you really justify Hassan’s murder by saying that she deserved it because of something that somebody else did before she was born? There is no unseen, universal vigilante force which doles out punishment to those who deserve it. If there were, the good guys would always win, and the bad guys would always lose. But we all know that the world simply doesn’t work this way. It’s just that good people have a higher probability of being rewarded for their actions, and bad people have a higher probability of being punished for their actions.
 
Ah, these are good examples thanks...
Looks somewhat difficult for me
to determine whether it's a karma or not
and/or just a coincidence, etc.

What i was thinking about Laci who was
so innocent being stuck with this situation.
 
for good Karma "Paying it forward"

for not good karma "What goes around, comes around back to you even worser"
 
The Bible makes several references to it, and I am surprised no one pointed those out.
 
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I believe in the providence of God.
 
Beowulf said:
The Bible makes several references to it, and I am surprised no one pointed those out.
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Y made a point here, we reap what we sow is coming from the Holy Bible. I do not rememebr exactly which verse it was written.
 
jazzy said:
Y made a point here, we reap what we sow is coming from the Holy Bible. I do not rememebr exactly which verse it was written.
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II Corinthians 9:6 "But this I say, He who soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he who soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully."

Galatians 6:7,8 "Be not deceived, God is not mocked, for whatever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."
 
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