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[jazzy]

Thanks Reba.


Karma is a name that we use to describe our daily actions.

Choice we make for ourselves and others. Two choices, we do good for ourselves and others or do bad for ourselves and others.

Give you an example what karma mean to me;

I go to food store to buy groceries, I use shopping cart to put foods in then I paid for it and walked to my car. Put groceries in the trunk and I have two choice with shopping cart. Shall I walk all way over to the cart area to put it back or just being a lazy and put cart right between my car and next car to my car. If I decided I am being lazy to walk all way over there instead of and let it parked right next to my car. I drive away without knowing it may hit another car and give it a big dent on the side of door. I did not care what happened to other car or how this person feel. Then next time I park my car at shopping lot, then find a big dent on my car. I will be upset then realize I may did to other person. It teaches me a lesson that I made a choice of doing good or bad, depend on my selfish part. This is what karma means to me.

 

[nozobo]

Well sir,
How do you stand on the Karma issue, Nozobo?

I personally believe in it.

I respect what everyone agree, disagree, states about the Karma but I do personally believe in karma and everything happens for a reason...

 

[The*Empress]

When most people I know use the word ‘karma’, they mean that there’s an unseen, universal force that makes sure that bad people get what they deserve. Is that what you’re talking about? Personally, I don’t believe it. You gotta make your own justice in this world.

Me either, not believe in karma. I think the law should handle bad people, and I think people should try to punish bad people, cause bad people
pay for their dues.... and they should have the 2nd chance.

 

[The*Empress]

Yes, Im a HUGE believer in KARMA. I truly believe that what we do at this moment does come back to us eventually. Everything comes in circles.

For every action or thought we take/do, there is ALWAYS consquences, whether it is good or bad.

I gave money to homeless people, but I didn't get any good karma

 

[The*Empress]

For every good AND bad thing or thought we do, it all comes back. Suppose you meet a hungry lady and you give her five dollars. Then a few years later, you happen to be down on your luck when your car breaks down in middle of nowwhere. Someone pulls over and helps you out.

Yeah a man helped me with his flat tire and asked me to go to the church with him... he should get good karma for that, but
I heard he beat up his wife, and now divorce, lost big pretty house.

WHat kind of karma is that?

 

[The*Empress]

A simpler explanation is just that good and bad people usually get what’s coming to them simply as a result of statistical probability. A person who engages in dishonest, predatory behavior will eventually be dealt with by society in a harsh manner. The opposite is true of a person who engages in pro-social behavior. He or she will eventually be rewarded for their actions simply because probability dictates that somebody will want to recognize them for what they’ve done, and reward them accordingly.

Society has never been fair. Even before I engages in dishonest, predatory behavior, this dumb society has always been harsh.
I got spit on for no reason, namecalling, stare at, and all because
of my appearance...
So I said what the heck, I'm gonna do something bad... cause
it seem like society is cruel anyway.

And yeah if a person who engages in pro social behavior such as joining the army, and get send to Iraq, and come back home with no arms.
What kind of reward is that?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, I do believe in Karma

I remember one example, I did at few weeks ago.

A turkish lady knocked our door asking for donation to feed circus animals. I knew straight that she is a beggar, not feed animals because of old paper DM ("Deutsche Marke").

My sons jumped quickley and said that I'm crazy and blind because I must see that the paper the lady showed is old.

I explained my sons to let poor lady happy with 2 EUR and I know that I will have 2 EUR back any time. My sons nodded with agreement because they remember being heard like this before. I know that beggars are not allow on the street to beg for money in the area where I live that's why the beggars knock the doors around use something like donation, etc. Some of bad people call the police when they know they are beggars.

 

[Liza]

I strongly believe in "paying it forward." I always treat someone in a manner in which I'd like to be treated, myself...unless of course, they deserve otherwise.

LMFAO!!! Thanks for that laugh, kiddo. I love it. Otherwise! How very malfoyish. LOL!

I see karma as a sort of equal energy exchange, too. What you give, you get back threefold or so. I'd rather give or do good things, so I get good stuff doubly

 

[Mistyrose]

well i wasnt sure what karma is so i looked up in the dictionary..here what it
says: person's actions in previous lives, believed to determine fate in future
existences. So i dont think whatever you do like giving money to the poor have anything to do with karma....heh.....its just your sympathy for that person is all but be careful anyway..there are a lot of con people taking your money..for other things beside for food you know?
I dont believe in karma stuff, really.
I only believe in God.

 

[kuifje75]

Actually, I have to disagree with some of you on the idea of karma.

Karma is constituted of actions that we do, and vipaka is the fruit of our actions. There are bad, good and ineffective/neutral karmas. It really does not have to do with other person's reaction towards us. It is part of the lineage of life from the beginning of existence of a person's "soul" who is born in total ignorance and learns by the vipaka caused by his karma. When he dies, he keeps being reborn until he acheives a life of "pure" karma and learns how to abide by the Four Noble Truths. It is then said that he is in the path of the Buddha, nearing the nirvana, or cessation of his existence because he acheived and survived the objective of his lineage to learn from the vipakas of his karma.

I don't believe in doing "good" karma on purpose in order to safeguard my future. Sometimes things can be done for wrong reason, and one can still bear bad vipaka. Just act what you feel is right, abide by the laws of Buddha and realise what causes suffering in your life and try the best to do away with these sufferings. For example, if someone is suffering because he is doing drugs or drinking a lot, then he has to realise to do away with that in order to lead himself out of that bad vipaka. That can be instant karma. But not all karma are instant. Some will not surface into your lifetime, but perhaps in the next 2 or 3 life cycle. I don't view karma as a tool of revenge for actions that people have done to me, and do not view it as a thing to enjoy if the other person be confronted with bad vipaka caused by his bad karma. To enjoy the bad vipakas of others can just be as bad as bad karma on your part! That's what I believe. Buddha teaches us to develop compassion for everyone, no matter what.

 

[Mistyrose]

Well Kuifje..if you practice Buddha religion then you do understand karma stuff but the rest of us may not understand this stuff so i dont understand what you are saying, sorry about that. I respect your religion and karma thing but i just dont understand this karma stuff and i dont believe in reincarnation anyways..i dont beleive that people do have past lives, no such
thing..it was never mentioned in the Bible anyway.

 

[Liza]

Actually, I have to disagree with some of you on the idea of karma.

Karma is constituted of actions that we do, and vipaka is the fruit of our actions. There are bad, good and ineffective/neutral karmas. It really does not have to do with other person's reaction towards us. It is part of the lineage of life from the beginning of existence of a person's "soul" who is born in total ignorance and learns by the vipaka caused by his karma. When he dies, he keeps being reborn until he acheives a life of "pure" karma and learns how to abide by the Four Noble Truths. It is then said that he is in the path of the Buddha, nearing the nirvana, or cessation of his existence because he acheived and survived the objective of his lineage to learn from the vipakas of his karma.

I don't believe in doing "good" karma on purpose in order to safeguard my future. Sometimes things can be done for wrong reason, and one can still bear bad vipaka. Just act what you feel is right, abide by the laws of Buddha and realise what causes suffering in your life and try the best to do away with these sufferings. For example, if someone is suffering because he is doing drugs or drinking a lot, then he has to realise to do away with that in order to lead himself out of that bad vipaka. That can be instant karma. But not all karma are instant. Some will not surface into your lifetime, but perhaps in the next 2 or 3 life cycle. I don't view karma as a tool of revenge for actions that people have done to me, and do not view it as a thing to enjoy if the other person be confronted with bad vipaka caused by his bad karma. To enjoy the bad vipakas of others can just be as bad as bad karma on your part! That's what I believe. Buddha teaches us to develop compassion for everyone, no matter what.

Good point, Kootchie Thanks for sharing this!

Defee, if I understand him, the validity of reincarnation isn't the point he was trying to make (boy, that was long Kootchie, I gotta admit! LOL Love it!). It is about not being attached to the idea of revenge or self gratification through spiritual means; if that attachment exists, then in some forms you will suffer as the ones who have done bad ill towards you. The solution is to have no attachments- even though you may have to go through lessons to learn that "gift," as that is suggested in Buddhist teachings.