Another, "I didn't do it!"

[jillio]

Whom are you addressing?

If it's so obvious, then I guess there's no need to mention it.

Whom am I addressing? Those that enjoy the process of critical thinking.

 

[jillio]

Actually, you should refer to an earlier post I made concerning this whole incident. But, I won't point it out just yet.

However, I will point out that your statements clearly show what a hypocrite you are. A complete lack of knowledge and you have already convicted Cain on allegations and no proof.

I guess you can't see past your own nose.

I haven't convicted him on anything other than his suspicious reactions to the allegations and his loss of memory, slight recovery of memory, then more recovery of memory when he gets backed against the wall.

Nope, no lack of knowlege here regarding the dynamics of power that are at play anytime a female is addressed in a sexually harrassing manner, or is patronized in a sexually implicit way and is unwilling to subject herself to more of the same from the power differentials that made the first incident acceptable to begin with.

 

[jillio]

I guess common sense is quite rare in your neck of the woods.

You wouldn't know common sense if it jumped up and bit you in the butt. But you do seem to know quite a bit about the physical position necessary to force someone's head into your crotch.

 

[deafskeptic]

That's too bad.

*sigh* I agree.

 

[Jiro]

Actually, you should refer to an earlier post I made concerning this whole incident. But, I won't point it out just yet.

However, I will point out that your statements clearly show what a hypocrite you are. A complete lack of knowledge and you have already convicted Cain on allegations and no proof.

I guess you can't see past your own nose.

if there was a DEFINITE proof from just one allegation out of several allegations... would you still vote for Cain?

or are you going to tell me - "well it depends on what happened and if it isn't that bad.... yea I'll vote for him"?

 

[Jiro]

You wouldn't know common sense if it jumped up and bit you in the butt. But you do seem to know quite a bit about the physical position necessary to force someone's head into your crotch.

oh my!

 

[TXgolfer]

Blame the victim.:roll: She deserved to be harrassed. Look at her background.:roll:

No matter what her past may hold, it does not give anyone the right to sexually harrass her. Get that straight.

You are using the same type of sexist deflection that has allowed mistreatment of women for centuries. You are disgusting.

There is a big difference between "blaming the victim" and questioning the "victim's" credibility. *shrug*

 

[jillio]

oh my!

Well, he is the one that said the accuser had to be lying because if Cain did it like she said he did, it would be impossible to force her head into his crotch. It's reasonable to think if you can make a definitive statement about it being impossible as described, you would also have to know how it would need to happen.

 

[jillio]

There is a big difference between "blaming the victim" and questioning the victims credibility. *shrug*

One only questions the victim's credibility to show cause to blame the victim. Particularly when it comes to a woman making any kind of sexual misconduct claim against a male.

 

[deafskeptic]

Apparently you did not read the full article as well. Here is another one that is written by Yahoo News

Is the lousy economy Obama's fault? Ask Joe Biden... - Yahoo! News

And if you throw a spin on Biden remarking that Obama made the economy better - just remember that the administration you are propping up caused the very first credit downgrade in our national history.

More accurately, it was the Republicans who caused our country to be downgraded when they threatened to shut down the Government over the US debt. That sent off signals to the world that the US government is not as stable as it was in the past. That is why we suffered a credit downgrade.

 

[jillio]

More accurately, it was the Republicans who caused our country to be downgraded when they threatened to shut down the Government over the US debt. That sent off signals to the world that the US government is not as stable as it was in the past. That is why we suffered a credit downgrade.

Nuh, hunh! Obama did it!

 

[TXgolfer]

One only questions the victim's credibility to show cause to blame the victim. Particularly when it comes to a woman making any kind of sexual misconduct claim against a male.

Or to judge whether or not they are being truthful.

 

[jillio]

Or to judge whether or not they are being truthful.

How can you judge whether someone is being truthful in a specific situation based on something they did in a totally unrelated situation? You can't. And to imply that you can is looking for a way to blame the victim.

 

[TXgolfer]

More accurately, it was the Republicans who caused our country to be downgraded when they threatened to shut down the Government over the US debt. That sent off signals to the world that the US government is not as stable as it was in the past. That is why we suffered a credit downgrade.

Really, so they had no idea from our economic numbers?

 

[jillio]

Really, so they had no idea from our economic numbers?

You mean the numbers that are a carry over from a couple of terms ago?

But none of that has anything to do with Herman Cain being accused of sexually innappropriate behavior toward not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 women.

 

[TXgolfer]

How can you judge whether someone is being truthful in a specific situation based on something they did in a totally unrelated situation? You can't. And to imply that you can is looking for a way to blame the victim.

If nothing happened there is no victim to blame.

 

[jillio]

If nothing happened there is no victim to blame.

Then why attempt a defense by bringing up the woman's past that is totally unrelated to current accusations? Just trying to show that if it did happen, she probably deserved it? Just in case there is something to the accusations?

Or do you just enjoy casting dispersions upon women?

 

[TXgolfer]

You mean the numbers that are a carry over from a couple of terms ago?

Many numbers have gotten worse

But none of that has anything to do with Herman Cain being accused of sexually innappropriate behavior toward not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 women.

Very good

 

[TXgolfer]

Then why attempt a defense by bringing up the woman's past that is totally unrelated to current accusations? Just trying to show that if it did happen, she probably deserved it? Just in case there is something to the accusations?

Or do you just enjoy casting dispersions upon women?

Or to show she has a pattern of not being a credible person.

 

[jillio]

Many numbers have gotten worse



Very good

Yes, and I find it very telling that 4 women have come forward with very similiar accusations. The probablitity that they got together and planned all of this out is slim to none. The two that filed formal complaints and were paid settlements: I am 99.9% certain that they didn't get together and say, "Hey, let's file these complaints now so if in 13 years or so, he decides to go from running restaurants to running for Repub candidacy in the Presidential race, we have the goods on him."