al-Qaida's al-Zarqawi killed in IRAQ!

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida-linked militant who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings, kidnappings and hostage beheadings in
Iraq, has been killed north of Baghdad, Iraq's prime minister said Thursday.

Iraqi PM: al-Qaida's al-Zarqawi killed
Watch,,I bet the press wont declare presidents polls number risen.If this was a democrat president the press would raise his poll numbers.Just like when Bill Clinton got Slobodan Milosevic from bosina the press rose his poll numbers by 19%
 
Can't wait till they imprison Bush for being the top maker of weapons of mass destruction!
 
Oh, now can we do OBL next in Afghan? eh!
 
Buckdodgers said:
Watch,,I bet the press wont declare presidents polls number risen.If this was a democrat president the press would raise his poll numbers.Just like when Bill Clinton got Slobodan Milosevic from bosina the press rose his poll numbers by 19%
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Do you even understand what the polls represent? It's not like Gallup pulls those things out of their collective ass.
 
Yeah, I just saw the Good news... One thing
I do NOT understand what does this
quote mean from CNN:

"He had a $25 million bounty on his head"

???
 
I do not want to sound like I am happy for a man's death but I am real happy that al-Zarqawi was killed. He has caused so much suffering, pain and death for so many people both innocent Iraqis and Americans, Allied forces. I am glad he is dead. Cutting people's heads off and sending waves of suicide bombers , waging gun battles that leave scores of innocent people dead and forcing people to convert to Islam at gunpoint is not cool. When I saw that on the news on the internet this morning. I cheered and my day is going to be much better because I know a very evil man died today !!!!! :angel:
 
Y said:
Yeah, I just saw the Good news... One thing
I do NOT understand what does this
quote mean from CNN:

"He had a $25 million bounty on his head"

???
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That means a monetary reward for his death or capture.

http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/alzarqawi.htm

"The Rewards for Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi."
 
Thanks Reba...

Who will be getting this $25 million reward ?
 
Like Heath, I don't want to sound happy about this (I'd have prefered he survived so he could be tried for his crimes against humanity), but it i at least somewhat a relief that the threat he posed has been neutralised.
 
Teresh said:
Like Heath, I don't want to sound happy about this (I'd have prefered he survived so he could be tried for his crimes against humanity), but it i at least somewhat a relief that the threat he posed has been neutralised.
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Don't be too forgiving, Teresh. It is ok to not be happy somebody died, his mother is somewhere crying in anguished pain but you also can be happy that his evil actions have come to a screeching halt. For men like this man Musab al-Zarqawi,

I prefer that he got killed because he will just make a mockery of the justice system like Saddam is doing right now, plus if he makes jailbreak which I am sure his henchmen would do in a flash if they ever got the chance to do it. They will break him out of jail then the hunt keeps going on and the beheadings, kidnappings, shootings will just keep going on once he makes jailbreak and in all likehood he will increase it like never before so, it is much better that this evil man is dead.
 
Heath said:
Don't be too forgiving, Teresh. It is ok to not be happy somebody died, his mother is somewhere crying in anguished pain but you also can be happy that his evil actions have come to a screeching halt.
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I believe all human life, even that of a terrorist, has value.

Heath said:
I prefer that he got killed because he will just make a mockery of the justice system like Saddam is doing right now, plus if he makes jailbreak which I am sure his henchmen would do in a flash if they ever got the chance to do it. They will break him out of jail then the hunt keeps going on and the beheadings, kidnappings, shootings will just keep going on once he makes jailbreak and in all likehood he will increase it like never before so, it is much better that this evil man is dead.
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You can't predict that that's what he'd do. In any case, it doesn't matter. A human life is human life is a human life. Al-Zarqawi's death means one less burning candle and that makes me sad, even if he was a terrible man.
 
I am happy to hear that the bad man is dead.. :applause:
 
I truly hope this can have an impact on the situation! This provides an opportunity for the Coalition to really act to make things better while there's a power vacuum on the other side. It will certainly be a good thing to not have those violent-themed rallying videos coming out every other week or so.

I just hope that this news is verified somehow because having to recant it would be very, VERY embarrassing, not just for our government, but for the Iraqi one. They do NOT need that right now.
 
Rose Immortal said:
I truly hope this can have an impact on the situation! This provides an opportunity for the Coalition to really act to make things better while there's a power vacuum on the other side. It will certainly be a good thing to not have those violent-themed rallying videos coming out every other week or so.

I just hope that this news is verified somehow because having to recant it would be very, VERY embarrassing, not just for our government, but for the Iraqi one. They do NOT need that right now.
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Just saw on news, yes it is real. they had him fingerprint, show his face on public and scars on his face were same. People said it is him, I hope that is it.
 
Teresh said:
I believe all human life, even that of a terrorist, has value.
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No debate there. However, it will always be the greatest good the greatest number. When a person such as Al-Zarqawi chooses to decide by his words and his deeds what value he places on others (playing God...deciding matters of life and death...judge, jury, executioner), then he has indicated that his life is fair game from the greater collective good. Meaning he can receive the appropriate judgement even if it is death. There are always conseqences for one's action. To deny that death as an appropriate conseqence is the height of absurdity. Such a man like him is a cancer and cancer does not support life and must be excised from the collective body. Remember he chose his path...nobody made him do it.

Teresh said:
You can't predict that that's what he'd do. In any case, it doesn't matter. A human life is human life is a human life. Al-Zarqawi's death means one less burning candle and that makes me sad, even if he was a terrible man.
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You're right nobody can know what's in a man's heart but his words and especially his deeds indicate very clearly what manner of man is he. Until he unequivocially states (letting everybody know) the errors of his way and turns from his past, there is no reason to presume that he has or had a change of heart. The burning candle analogy falls way short here as that assumes he had something good to say. As long as he carried on as judge, jury, executioner, only like minded people took what he said to heart. Most certainly the rest did not and were looking for ways to stop him one way or another. I see nothing to be sad about with his passing from this world...he worshipped death and he got it.
 
News reports coming out of Iraq incidate that who will replace al-Zarqawi will be al-Marsi. I saw that on CNN news. I am working on finding his background information because usually when someone evil dies then that man is replaced by somebody much more evil and worse than him......

The USA is bracing for any terrorist attacks and I pray we do not get hit by any terrorist attacks here in America due to al-Zarqawi's death.
 
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No debate there. However, it will always be the greatest good the greatest number.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not a utilitarian.

sr171soars said:
When a person such as Al-Zarqawi chooses to decide by his words and his deeds what value he places on others (playing God...deciding matters of life and death...judge, jury, executioner), then he has indicated that his life is fair game from the greater collective good. Meaning he can receive the appropriate judgement even if it is death.
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Nobody deserves execution, no matter what their crimes.

sr171soars said:
There are always conseqences for one's action. To deny that death as an appropriate conseqence is the height of absurdity. Such a man like him is a cancer and cancer does not support life and must be excised from the collective body. Remember he chose his path...nobody made him do it.
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It's only absurd in the context of your analogy. I can faithfully deny that death is an appropriate consequence because I think that the government executing people is absurd. You don't have a valid argument for why the government should have that power, nor do I have a valid reason for why not. We have different opinions, that's all there is to it.

sr171soars said:
Until he unequivocially states (letting everybody know) the errors of his way and turns from his past, there is no reason to presume that he has or had a change of heart.
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And now he's dead--He'll never be able to make that statement should he choose to.

sr171soars said:
The burning candle analogy falls way short here as that assumes he had something good to say.
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It does not make that assumption. Rather, it makes the assumption that a life is infinitely valuable and that if you terminate that life the value is forfeit.

sr171soars said:
I see nothing to be sad about with his passing from this world...he worshipped death and he got it.
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I'm inclined to disagree because I don't believe killing people is an acceptable way to solve problems.
 
Okay Teresh , Let's say God forbid ..... I hope this never happens but let's brainstorm here for a mintune.

I would not want this to happen to you or to anybody else.

Please remember this is only an example, God forbid this situation happened :

What if you were in bed asleep in Iraq on a humanaritian mission to help the poor people of Iraq which is a very good and a noble thing to do. All of a sudden, al-Zarqawi and his men broke down your door in the night time dark then proceeded to rape and sodomize you then he starts to behead your neck cutting off your head and you feel the cutting motions of the matchete against your flesh in your neck being cut open. At that moment, Would you have any more sympathy left for that evil man or would you fight to the death and kill him and the bad men with him ? Would you still think you wanted him alive even after the fact you were raped and you have a 5 inch deep gash wound in your neck from al-Zarqawi trying to behead you while you recover in the hospital from your neck wounds and recovering from the physical and emotional aftermath of being beaten so violently and viciously raped ?

Would you want him alive or dead ?
 
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