al-Qaida's al-Zarqawi killed in IRAQ!

[Reba]

... Al-Zarqawi's death means one less burning candle....

His death means one less terrorist snuffing out other people's candles.

 

[Reba]

...I'm inclined to disagree because I don't believe killing people is an acceptable way to solve problems.

So how would you stop terrorists from killing people?

 

[DarkStarWolf]

I watched show from CNN

 

[Teresh]

At that moment, Would you have any more sympathy left for that evil man or would you fight to the death and kill him and the bad men with him ?

I would fight back, but I wouldn't endeavor to kill them. That's not my way. I would, instead, knock them out and contact whatever authories one contacts when they're attacked by terrorists in Iraq.

Would you still think you wanted him alive even after the fact you were raped and you have a 5 inch deep gash wound in your neck from al-Zarqawi trying to behead you while you recover in the hospital from your neck wounds and recovering from the physical and emotional aftermath of being beaten so violently and viciously raped ?

Would you want him alive or dead ?

Alive. It doesn't matter how evil a person is, it doesn't matter how much I have to suffer in order to promote life. I don't believe in revenge.

"That which you detest, do not to thy neighbor."

His death means one less terrorist snuffing out other people's candles.

Doesn't matter. Snuffing out another life won't bring any of the dead back, it will only create more death.

So how would you stop terrorists from killing people?

Detain them.

 

[Heath]

Wow !!!!! Teresh, You truly are politically correct. I am sure the terrorists will appreciate and thank you in jail as they laugh, shout Allah Abkar and plot more terrorist activity and the fedhayeen troops will be plotting to break him out of jail then this is all for nothing as you see more innocent lives killed and destroyed.

If it was me, I would want the islamic terrorists dead peroid and I would send the US Military to kill those sick f*ckers while I recover in the hospital from the beating and beheading attempt on my life. I am not gonna have any sympathy for them after they tried to cut my head off or beat me up in preparation for the beheading that is sure to follow so I would kill to escape from them turning the tables on them and taking their AK-47's from them in hand to hand combat and open fire on the terrorists with the AK-47's, I would gut the bastards with their own knife and the violent gunbattle will be heard by everybody in the whole neighborhood then the U.S. Military hears the violent gunbattle raging next door and then they will fight the terrorists and help to free me from those murderous bastards. The U.S. Troops are required to remember the faces of every P.O.W. and the people that are taken hostage by the terrorists and it is shown on CNN so that the US Troops will remember who the innocent hostages and P.O.W.'s are and they would recongize me or you or anybody who is an innocent hostage on the battlefield while gun battles erupt and the US Troops fight to set you free from harm and death at great personal risk to themselves and you too as you fight for your own life.

 

[Reba]

...Doesn't matter. Snuffing out another life won't bring any of the dead back, it will only create more death.

No, it will prevent deaths.

Detain them.

How?

First, how would you round them all up without bloodshed?

Second, where, and for how long would you "detain" them? Who would "detain" them?

Third, aren't the liberals already whining about our "detainees" in Gitmo?

 

[Buckdodgers]

The President Ment what he said,,, "" GET EM DEAD OR ALIVE!""

 

[sr171soars]

...
Detain them.

You lose...

Doesn't do any good when they keep coming at you (potentially there are at least 1 billion and counting...not to say they all are) and your prisons can't hold them all. So, we have numerous dead on your side because you are unwilling to do what has to be done. There is nothing noble about accepting casualties for the sake of not killing. You have two choices, surrender or die. Pick your poison...

 

[Heath]

Do or Die !

Semper Fi !

Marine Sniper -- Visualize World Peace.

Marine Sniper -- You Can Run But You Can't Hide.

What Part of Marine Don't you Understand?

When It Absolutely, Positively Must Be DESTROYED Overnight -- Call The USMC

Deadliest Weapon In The World -- A Marine And His Rifle.

USMC -- Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.

USMC -- No Promises, No Shortcuts.

USMC -- America's 911 Service

More Sweat In Peace, Less Blood In War.

To Err Is Human, To Forgive Is Divine Neither of Which Is Marine Corps Policy.

Every Marine Is A Rifleman One Shot, One Kill.

Forget The Dog -- This Property Protected By A US Marine.

When In Doubt Empty The Magazine.

Pain Is Only Temporary, Pride Is Forever.

Pain Is Weakness Leaving The Body.

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wonderng if they made a difference. The MARINES don't have that problem." President Ronald Reagan - 1985

Semper Fidelis

The Motto of the United States Marine Corps

 

[Teresh]

Wow !!!!! Teresh, You truly are politically correct.

Political correctness and opposition to murder by the government are two completely different things. But I imagine it's very easy for you to get them confused--You never were knowledgable about these things anyway.

I am sure the terrorists will appreciate and thank you in jail as they laugh, shout Allah Abkar and plot more terrorist activity and the fedhayeen troops will be plotting to break him out of jail then this is all for nothing as you see more innocent lives killed and destroyed.

The difference between an "innocent life" and a "guilty life" is effectively nil. All lives are equally valuable.

I am not gonna have any sympathy for them after they tried to cut my head off or beat me up in preparation for the beheading that is sure to follow so I would kill to escape from them turning the tables on them and taking their AK-47's from them in hand to hand combat and open fire on the terrorists with the AK-47's, I would gut the bastards with their own knife and the violent gunbattle will be heard by everybody in the whole neighborhood then the U.S. Military hears the violent gunbattle raging next door and then they will fight the terrorists and help to free me from those murderous bastards.

You're such a violent, hateful individual. It's sickening. You're no better than the terrorists you claim to oppose.

No, it will prevent deaths.

It will prevent deaths? But it also causes one. If we're going to get into the game of killing people who cause death, why don't we just genocide the entire human population? They're all guilty of causing death in some way, even you and I. You support this trend of death leading only to more death. I don't.

Doesn't do any good when they keep coming at you (potentially there are at least 1 billion and counting...not to say they all are) and your prisons can't hold them all.

You mean 6 billion, right? Anyone of any creed could become a terrorist. Your statement that there are potentially 1 billion terrorists because there are 1.3 billion Muslims also makes the statement that you have no clue what you're talking about. Terrorism has nothing to do with creed. Any religion's beliefs can be perverted to justify evil when put in the right context.

So, we have numerous dead on your side because you are unwilling to do what has to be done.

I'm not unwilling. I simply disagree that I've the right.

 

[Heath]

Political correctness and opposition to murder by the government are two completely different things. But I imagine it's very easy for you to get them confused--You never were knowledgable about these things anyway.

The islamic terrorists understand only strength and violence, they are not gonna understand the word sorry and forgiveness.

The difference between an "innocent life" and a "guilty life" is effectively nil. All lives are equally valuable.

Not when an innocent life is on the line.

You're such a violent, hateful individual. It's sickening. You're no better than the terrorists you claim to oppose.

No, I am nothing like them at all and I would only fight in self defense so you can throw that violent hateful individual mental picture right out of your head.

It will prevent deaths? But it also causes one. If we're going to get into the game of killing people who cause death, why don't we just genocide the entire human population? They're all guilty of causing death in some way, even you and I. You support this trend of death leading only to more death. I don't.

More hippie college pot smoking theories.
FYI, I do not support genocide. I support armed self defense and nothing more.

You mean 6 billion, right? Anyone of any creed could become a terrorist. Your statement that there are potentially 1 billion terrorists because there are 1.3 billion Muslims also makes the statement that you have no clue what you're talking about. Terrorism has nothing to do with creed. Any religion's beliefs can be perverted to justify evil when put in the right context.

So you justify what judaism is doing to Palestinans and to the Gentiles on a worldwide scale ?

I'm not unwilling. I simply disagree that I've the right.

Yeah, you do have the right to disagree but when the chips are down, whose side are you really on ? The American people or the terrorists by your own words and actions ?

 

[Teresh]

The islamic terrorists understand only strength and violence, they are not gonna understand the word sorry and forgiveness.

That's still not a valid excuse to descend to their level.

No, I am nothing like them at all and I would only fight in self defense so you can throw that violent hateful individual mental picture right out of your head.

More hippie college pot smoking theories.
FYI, I do not support genocide. I support armed self defense and nothing more.

The terrorists would say the same thing. Given your actions and what you say and given the fact I've no reason to believe you over them, you're just as much of a sinner as they are. By the way, I don't smoke pot. And I never have, unlike a certain someone. I keep my body clean.

So you justify what judaism is doing to Palestinans and to the Gentiles on a worldwide scale?

Judaism is a religion. I don't see how the religion is doing anything to anyone.

Now, if you're talking about Jews as a group of people, then my response is that Jews in the diaspora aren't doing anything bad to anyone. If there are legitimate cases where evil has been wraught at the hands of Jewish organisations, then of course I oppose that. But there is no massive Jewish conspiracy that you seem to believe there is. You're just an Anti-Semite, Heath.

As far as Israel goes, I support the existence of the State of Israel, yes. That does not mean I support all of their policies or everything the Israeli government does. That said, there haven't been any particularly terrible things the Israeli government has done to the Palestinians, so I don't really understand your point.

Yeah, you do have the right to disagree but when the chips are down, whose side are you really on ? The American people or the terrorists by your own words and actions ?

America, obviously. You just want to believe that I support the terrorists because it gives you, in your own mind, credibility for your opposition to me. Sorry, Heath, but I won't be made a scapegoat for your schizophrenia or your messiah complex.

 

[Heath]

That's still not a valid excuse to descend to their level.

We are not descending to their level. We are stopping terrorism.

The terrorists would say the same thing. Given your actions and what you say and given the fact I've no reason to believe you over them, you're just as much of a sinner as they are. By the way, I don't smoke pot. And I never have, unlike a certain someone. I keep my body clean.

I keep my body clean and I don't smoke pot either.

Judaism is a religion. I don't see how the religion is doing anything to anyone.

Now, if you're talking about Jews as a group of people, then my response is that Jews in the diaspora aren't doing anything bad to anyone. If there are legitimate cases where evil has been wraught at the hands of Jewish organisations, then of course I oppose that. But there is no massive Jewish conspiracy that you seem to believe there is. You're just an Anti-Semite, Heath.

Judaism teaches how to hate the Goy ( Goy means Gentile if they use it in the wrong context ) What about a couple summer ago, the IDF army shot a 10 year old Palestinian kid then the army soldier asked his IDF commander if he could go ahead and kill the 3 years old kid and the 3 year old kid was shot dead too. There is a long list of crimes the IDF commited.

As far as Israel goes, I support the existence of the State of Israel, yes. That does not mean I support all of their policies or everything the Israeli government does. That said, there haven't been any particularly terrible things the Israeli government has done to the Palestinians, so I don't really understand your point.

I do support Israel's right to exist but I also support the Palestinians right to exist too. The innocent Palestinians that have nothing to do with terrorism. I disagree with alots of what is going on between Israel and Palestine too as well. Palestinians need to not be homeless or jobless either.

America, obviously. You just want to believe that I support the terrorists because it gives you, in your own mind, credibility for your opposition to me. Sorry, Heath, but I won't be made a scapegoat for your schizophrenia or your messiah complex.

Then shut the hell up about trying to have a bleeding heart for the terrorists when they have absoutely no bleeding heart for you. I don't need to have any opposition from you because you are the opposition of your own self. I do not have schizophrenia or a messiah complex. You have a very active imagination and if you met me in person then you would see I am not what you think I am. I am a man who works hard, goes home , have a couple cold beers and have fun with my friends, talking debating back and forth on everything and learning new things everyday.

 

[Buckdodgers]

This is the Turning point on the War on Terror! Every War has a turning point.

Revolutonary War =SARATOGA BATTLE
Civil War = GETTYSBURG
WWII =D-DAY JUNE 6th 1944

 

[Heath]

This is the Turning point on the War on Terror! Every War has a turning point.

Revolutonary War =SARATOGA BATTLE
Civil War = GETTYSBURG
WWII =D-DAY JUNE 6th 1944

Could very well be the turning point or when we finally kill Osama Bin Laden. I know for sure that we will win the war on terror.

 

[Teresh]

I keep my body clean and I don't smoke pot either.

By your own testimony, you used to.

Judaism teaches how to hate the Goy ( Goy means Gentile if they use it in the wrong context )

You really don't have any clue as to what Judaism teaches. Judaism does not teach hating gentiles.

What about a couple summer ago, the IDF army shot a 10 year old Palestinian kid then the army soldier asked his IDF commander if he could go ahead and kill the 3 years old kid and the 3 year old kid was shot dead too. There is a long list of crimes the IDF commited.

I suppose you get those stories from JewWatch, one of the biggest Anti-Semitic websites on the Internet? You might be interested to know that the site also condemns Christianity--That would bother you, no?

I do support Israel's right to exist but I also support the Palestinians right to exist too. The innocent Palestinians that have nothing to do with terrorism. I disagree with alots of what is going on between Israel and Palestine too as well. Palestinians need to not be homeless or jobless either.

The "innocent Palestinians" just elected HAMAS, a party whos official party platform is the annihilation of Medinat Yisrael. I support the two-state plan. I have no problem with Palestine getting sovereignty to the lands in which the Palestinians currently live--Actually, I think that's a very good idea.

You have a very active imagination and if you met me in person then you would see I am not what you think I am. I am a man who works hard, goes home , have a couple cold beers and have fun with my friends, talking debating back and forth on everything and learning new things everyday.

That's what you don't understand--I know exactly what you are, indeed, even how you think. I won't bother to explain why, you wouldn't understand. But trust me, Heath, I have a pretty good idea of what you're like in real life, far better than I can convey in the way I post on this forum.

 

[sr171soars]

You mean 6 billion, right? Anyone of any creed could become a terrorist. Your statement that there are potentially 1 billion terrorists because there are 1.3 billion Muslims also makes the statement that you have no clue what you're talking about. Terrorism has nothing to do with creed. Any religion's beliefs can be perverted to justify evil when put in the right context.

No, I meant what I implied. Recent events of Spain, Britain, and Canada proves my point and anybody who refuses to see it for what it is...is extremely naive. There are other situations around the world that have terrorists but there is one important and critical distinction between them and Islamic fundamentalism. That is that Islamic fundamentalism is seriously intent on destroying the West and what it stands for. There is no give and take and all the other situations are strictly local affairs. Anybody who ignores this fact does so at their peril. Whitewashing these unpleasant truths is typical of many until the theory meets reality. We are at war and until most people wake up to this fact, many will be hurt and killed unfortunately. It will be interesting to see what happens when the fireworks start. Ohhh, it will happen, the authorities cannot catch all the terrorists.

I'm not unwilling. I simply disagree that I've the right.

Then, you do not totally believe in what you say. Which is it?

 

[Heath]

Teresh, You would be mistaken and have your imagination blown way out of porportion if you truly met me in person. That is all I have to say and you keep trying to discredit everything that I am saying when I don't need to. I find some of the things you have to say are absurd and ludricious. Anyways, It was good that al-Zarqawi was killed this morning in an air strike.

 

[Reba]

...Detain them.

How?

First, how would you round them all up without bloodshed?

Second, where, and for how long would you "detain" them? Who would "detain" them?

Third, aren't the liberals already whining about our "detainees" in Gitmo?

 

[Reba]

Political correctness and opposition to murder by the government are two completely different things. ...

I'm sure you're not referring to the death of Zarqawi as "murder by the government."

The difference between an "innocent life" and a "guilty life" is effectively nil. All lives are equally valuable.

Therefore, civilized people can't allow terrorists to continue to destroy the valuable lives of innocent people.

It will prevent deaths? But it also causes one.

Hmmm...If you see one man with a grenade ready to throw it into a bus full of children, you wouldn't shoot and kill the one man to save the many children?

If we're going to get into the game of killing people who cause death, why don't we just genocide the entire human population?

It's not a "game". If you don't want to stop the killers, then we might just be on the way to genocide--on the receiving end.

Unfortunately, the terrorist killers are not so philosophical and kind-hearted as you. As they blow up you and your family, they won't even say "thanks" for letting them live to carry on one more day of terror and bloodshed.