I'm certainly not interested in a chat room where no moderators are present. First off, I think you've got it entirely backwards -- WITHOUT MODERATORS, chaos would reign supreme. Want to spam the chatroom? Go right ahead, no one can stop you. Want to be obnoxious and an ass? Go right ahead, no one can stop you. Can you be banned and prevented from coming back and ruining the "fun" in the room? Nope, 'cause you just IM the Deaf Bot and you can go back to the room.
This will only appeal to those who LIKE messing around and being on their worst behavior, knowing that they can't be touched because there are no moderators. There's no consequences for negative actions, because no one can shut them up or kick them out.
I can't take someone who calls moderators or room owners "stupid." Sounds like someone too childish to own up to their immature actions.
Dennis. Have you actually ever BEEN in the deaf rooms on AIM in the past year? Given your reply, I highly doubt you have ever spent a DAY there. Nobody who's an deaf AIM chatroom regular would even agree with you on that.
Under most circumstances regarding chatrooms in general, I would agree with you. But sadly, AIM chatrooms are a totally DIFFERENT & unique circumstance, which means a unique solution is required to make things FAIR for all deafies who want to chat there.
Let me explain it to you...
First of all, and most importantly... as every deafie knows, AIM's popularity among deaf culture has become synonymous with the popularity of the Sidekick.
Now, naturally... if you own a Sidekick & AIM, one of the things you ask yourself is... "Does this thing have a chatroom?" And as we all know, AIM has the ONLY tolerable chatroom on SK right now. There is NO other real choice.
That's EXACTLY what happened. Many, many, MANY deafies with Sidekicks had the curiousity to type 'deaf' to see if anyone was there. AIM deaf chatrooms could have been a WONDERFUL thing for the deaf community. But unfortunately...
When they went there.. what did they find? They found a very small group of friends.. er i mean IDIOTS running things, who ban you for ANYTHING, hell, they ban you just for saying 'Hi'. If you're a newbie, you're BANNED, PERIOD... just for being a NEWBIE on a screenname they never saw before.
Now, what you have to understand is - these guys aren't 'moderators' in the same formal sense like the moderators on alldeaf.com or on deafchat.com. These guys are just plain REGULARS. You see - in AIM chatrooms, it's 'FINDERS KEEPERS' who become moderators. The FIRST person to enter an EMPTY chatroom becomes the moderator, and usually they would leave their computer online 24/7 for weeks to hold on to it until they lose it when their cable modem burps or AIM resets the chatroom servers.
So, can you imagine all the WARS and CHAOS that happened in that sort of situation, for the past two years now? It has basically been a war between 3 different groups of 'friends' fighting to get 'moderator' (or 'room owner' or the 'bolt' as many deafies call it) whenever somebody lost it, along with alot of seriously IMMATURE drama related with whoever was the moderator.
My AIM Deaf system puts an END to all this madness... it puts an END to the moderator wars. Now theres a FINALLY deaf chatroom on BOTH computer AND SK where EVERYONE is free to enter and say what they want, rather than a only favoritist/elitist informal moderator and his tiny groups of idiot friends.
If there were another chatroom solution for Sidekick besides AIM, trust me... most of us (alot of us being regulars who know each other since 1995 on AOL) would've GLADLY packed up and moved a long time ago. But right now, it's the only chatroom option for thats BOTH for computer AND SK.
Regarding the appeal of an unmoderated chatroom to deafies and spammers who come just to raise hell... there's always the 'ignore' button, right? Who needs a moderator, when there's 'ignore' ?
If you don't like someone, you put em on ignore. Simple as that. Ok, so SK AIM doesnt have 'ignore' in chatrooms YET... but i'm positive it will eventually - it's a trivially easy feature to add. The computer version of AIM DOES have 'ignore'.
Besides, you have to admit there's NO SUCH THING as a truly 'fair' and 'free' moderated chatroom or message board, or anywhere.. even in real life situations with leadership... that's just the way things are in the world.
Even with 'formal' moderators, it always breaks down to 'who is FRIENDS with who' in the end, and it always turns out unfair because someone is doing special favors for someone that are unfair to others...
Especially in the deaf community where you HAVE to admit, alot of deafies running things do not have very good sense or logical reasoning!
That's why I'm a strong believer of an unmoderated chatroom where the PEOPLE have the power and freedom to ignore someone THEMSELVES, rather than someone at the TOP deciding for them.
Remember my friend, power always corrupts.. ALWAYS. =)