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hearingaidmama said:
One org runs adult basic classes at a high school about a half hour from my home and the other is community college of philadelphia.
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Which organization would that be?

And please. start answering past questions posed. Avoiding them is not looking good.
 
hearingaidmama said:
This post has me almost in tears. This is exactly what I am afraid of. You all have to understand that I am brand new to all this and only want the best for my daughter. Also, that all the information I recieve is from her auditory-verbal therapist and her audiologist. They have presented the hearing aids and FM to me as "fix all" devices.

I joined this community to learn from real people with real hearing loss on what I can do to help her live a happy life.
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HAM- I think that it's important for you to know that AVT makes a large portion of us (including myself) cringe. It forces a child to rely solely upon their weakest sense. Which isn't the most productive or useful for the child.

You said you were given two options, but there are other options available. There is also the Bi-Bi philosophy, Total Communication, and Cued Speech. The first two are more viable and functional options than the third.
 
Jiro said:
you can simply take basic ASL classes with your daughter and grow from them.

but I thought you're more interested in auditory/oral method?
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She has undergone a change in philosophy in less than 24 hours.:hmm:
 
hearingaidmama said:
Seriously? You all sound like a bunch of crazy people. I was sent here by other people? Paranoid much? God forbid anyone new try to post in your group, you have to run them out.
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Crazy?? Hi. :wave:

Lots of us still have a bit of anger leftover from our interesting childhoods.

Some of us are still accumulating more on a daily basis.
 
CSign said:
HAM- I think that it's important for you to know that AVT makes a large portion of us (including myself) cringe. It forces a child to rely solely upon their weakest sense. Which isn't the most productive or useful for the child.

You said you were given two options, but there are other options available. There is also the Bi-Bi philosophy, Total Communication, and Cued Speech. The first two are more viable and functional options than the third.
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Cued Speech? for the love of god... that should never ever ever be mentioned as part of options. Please get involved in deaf community first before you start advising parents. You don't even have any solid experience yet. You are JUST starting it out. Again - please get involved in deaf community first and put in perhaps 5 years more. You have yet seen the impact of your decision.
 
I am seeing an interesting pattern. There are a couple of people who hang around with the express purpose of looking for an opportunity to prove me wrong in something I say related to the Deaf. I now see them using the very same words and phrases I use and that they disagreed with. Isn't that odd?:hmm:
 
Jiro said:
Cued Speech? for the love of god... that should never ever ever be mentioned as part of options. Please get involved in deaf community first before you start advising parents. You don't even have any solid experience yet. You are JUST starting it out. Again - please get involved in deaf community first and put in perhaps 5 years more. You have yet seen the impact of your decision.
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What is it with people trying to revive these old, outdated, and inefficient systems? They didn't work in the 70's, and they aren't going to work now.:roll:
 
Cued Speech... wow... just wow..... I just felt like I woke up on the wrong side of bed. What a foul way to start my morning...

I cannot believe CSign would even suggest it as part of options. You acknowledged that SEE I is ineffective and obsolete after we pointed it out for you... Cued Speech is even worse than SEE I.

Do you even know what you're talking about, CSign?
 
jillio said:
I'll address this post by each point.

Seeming uneducated about things has virtually nothing to do with our suspicions. The fact that you appeared to be reading from a script to the degree that what you would say in a next post was predicted several minutes before you posted it.

Re: being in touch with other parents. Clarke may be providing your intervention services at home, but they do have other children enrolled, which means other parents. I am curious as to why you don't reach out to become involved with other parents of children who are enrolled in the same school as your daughter is and are in your immediate area. When I, for instance, wanted contact with other parents of deaf children when my son was a toddler, I hooked up with both parents of children in his early intervention program, and I introduced myself to Deaf people close to my community. Throughout his school years, I made certain that I had contact with other parents and other students. I didn't go to an internet forum as a substitute for personal contact with the deaf community. Your early intervention services may be provided at home, but what exactly is preventing you from contacting other parents in your area to arrange play dates, activities, and get togethers? It just doesn't make sense that you have no contact with other parents of deaf children, particularly since the area you are in has not only Clarke School, but a School for the Deaf, as well.

You obviously are not here for advice. You have made your decision to raise your daughter in an oral / auditory environment and hopefully to mainstream her. Your decisions have been made. A forum for the Deaf is not the place to turn for support when you refuse to listen to what the Deaf have to say regarding living as a deaf child and what their needs were. Why AllDeaf for support? There are other forums dedicated to supporting parents who insist on an oral / aural environment for a deaf child. This is not one of them, and it appears that you knew that from the very beginning, given the sequence and the wording of your posts. So, why AllDeaf?

You'll prove us wrong? There is another red flag. Why is it so important to you to prove a bunch of strangers that you claim have been nothing but rude and nasty to you wrong. If you believe you have been treated so unfairly, the logical and reasonable thing to do would be to leave. You have no committments to anyone here. You didn't pay for your membership here, so it can't be a matter of getting your money's worth out of a membership fee. We are strangers to you, and have no effect on you one way or the other. So why this need to prove us wrong?

I'm certain that the vast majority of us could name the people who sent you emails and told you to stick around, just as what you would say was so easily predicted yesterday.

You may be a real person with a daughter who wears hearing aids, but your motive and your reasons for being here are anything but real. If you are a real person with a daughter who wears hearing aids, you were recruited to post here about a specific topic: oral aural environment and AVT. And if you were recruited, it is quite obvious who did the recruiting. You already have contact with at least one parent of a deaf child. That much is obvious. There are far too many things that simply don't add up, far too many similarities to be coincidence, and far too many very predictable statements. If you believe you are going to stick around just to prove us wrong, you probably should get started on that. It is going to be a much more difficult job than you think it is.
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I have no idea why I feel the need to prove myself to a group of strangers. I guess this is my first expierence with the HOH/Deaf community and being called a fake doesn't feel well. Makes me feel like everything I thought I knew, and thought I was doing good for my dughter is so wrong that people with hearing loss don't even think I am a parent with a hearing loss.

I have spoken to Clarke about other parents but they refer me to alexander graham bell association? I know not one other person who has hearing loss and I thought this may be a good place for me considering I've found that there is a board for parents on this forum.

Here are some pictures I've taken and uploaded for proof that I am who I say I am.

81111 pictures by jpiccola02 - Photobucket
 
Cued speech was one of the things suggested to us by the PA school for the deaf but I have never heard of bi-bi?
 
A few months ago a mother with a little deaf boy came to town because of a new job and met me. She was beside herself with worry over her son and asked me for "help." Should she arrange for the boy to get a CI, she asked? I put the boy on my lap and we talked, mostly in sign. The mother was astonished. I told her to put her son on her lap and TALK with him.
To make a long story short, she enrolled the boy in a Deaf school half an hour from here and they are both doing very well.
I find it VERY disturbing that a mother would spend all her waking moments on the computer instead of trying to talk with her child. If she does, she would know what to do.
 
Jiro said:
Cued Speech... wow... just wow..... I just felt like I woke up on the wrong side of bed. What a foul way to start my morning...

I cannot believe CSign would even suggest it as part of options. You acknowledged that SEE I is ineffective and obsolete after we pointed it out for you... Cued Speech is even worse than SEE I.

Do you even know what you're talking about, CSign?
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Well you obviously don't know what your talking about, as I've never claimed SEE I was effective. But congratulations on successfully twisting my position yet again.

It's almost like a sickness with some of you.

I was addressing The comment by the OP that she was given two options. I was letting her know there are other options available.

Also, if you had paid attention you would have noticed I said that Cued Speech was not as effective or functional.

Seriously, you need to lay off. It's highly irritating to be constantly having to correct intentional misrepresentations about me and my perspective.
 
Beowulf said:
A few months ago a mother with a little deaf boy came to town because of a new job and met me. She was beside herself with worry over her son and asked me for "help." Should she arrange for the boy to get a CI, she asked? I put the boy on my lap and we talked, mostly in sign. The mother was astonished. I told her to put her son on her lap and TALK with him.
To make a long story short, she enrolled the boy in a Deaf school half an hour from here and they are both doing very well.
I find it VERY disturbing that a mother would spend all her waking moments on the computer instead of trying to talk with her child. If she does, she would know what to do.
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I think a tear just came out. *fighting it*
 
CSign said:
Well you obviously don't know what your talking about, as I've never claimed SEE I was effective. But congratulations on successfully twisting my position yet again.

It's almost like a sickness with some of you.

I was addressing The comment by the OP that she was given two options. I was letting her know there are other options available.

Also, if you had paid attention you would have noticed I said that Cued Speech was not as effective or functional.

Seriously, you need to lay off. It's highly irritating to be constantly having to correct intentional misrepresentations about me and my perspective.
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But...CUED SPEECH????
That is a bit much, even from you. :lol:
Why not ASL?
 
hearingaidmama said:
I have no idea why I feel the need to prove myself to a group of strangers. I guess this is my first expierence with the HOH/Deaf community and being called a fake doesn't feel well. Makes me feel like everything I thought I knew, and thought I was doing good for my dughter is so wrong that people with hearing loss don't even think I am a parent with a hearing loss.

I have spoken to Clarke about other parents but they refer me to alexander graham bell association? I know not one other person who has hearing loss and I thought this may be a good place for me considering I've found that there is a board for parents on this forum.

Here are some pictures I've taken and uploaded for proof that I am who I say I am.

81111 pictures by jpiccola02 - Photobucket
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The other kids at Clarke school have hearing loss. Are you suggesting that Clarke will not put you in touch with other parents who have children enrolled in their program and instead, refers you to A.G. Bell? That just doesn't make sense.
 
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